There have to be stats out there somewhere comparing the numbers/ percentages of fires in ICE and EVs. I think, to some extent, EV fires are "news" because they're different. That doesn't necessarily mean they're more prone to catch fire than other vehicles are.,ice owners always like to point out some dufuss that has ran out of charge i guarantee there are plenty of gassers and diesels that are stalled for lack of fuel have yet to see a battery fire the only flaming vehicles i have seen are of the internal combustion variety.
Are you talking about the battery?It's not an ideal situation selling expensive new tech cars where the part that is more than half the value of the vehicle is seen as a tech that has to be replaced as soon as possible with something safer, more reliable and much better performance.
I'll wait thankyou
If you're carrying a fire axe. Most people don't carry extinguishers in the cars, let alone an axe. If you're in the car, and you have one, you probably couldn't get enough of a swing to break it. Some safety features in cars are making people less safe, some due to general human nature, some because they create unsafe situations.yep last part my thought exactly, however i believe i could go through "unbreakable glass" with a fireax that glass couldnt be thick enough to be that strong sounds iffy to me. ah yes metal are hard to extinghuish,one cat told me the "ions" couldnt burn i wonder where he thought the ions came from?
Seems like Kelley Blue Book's analysts agrees with you:There have to be stats out there somewhere comparing the numbers/ percentages of fires in ICE and EVs. I think, to some extent, EV fires are "news" because they're different. That doesn't necessarily mean they're more prone to catch fire than other vehicles are.
I didn't carry an ax in my old F250, but I did have a small fire extinguisher behind the back seat. Never had the need to use it, thankfully. It was expired by the time we sold the truck and thus went to recycle.If you're carrying a fire axe...
Very true, but also completely skewed by the age of EVs, and all the home repaired petrol cars, classic cars and general condition of cars up to 100 years old on the roads.Seems like Kelley Blue Book's analysts agrees with you:
Study: Electric Vehicles Involved in Fewest Car Fires
By Sean Tucker 01/28/2022 Kelley Bluebook
Electric cars have been subject to several high-profile recalls over fire risk. Yet, a new study shows they are less likely to cause a vehicle fire than either gas-powered cars or hybrid vehicles. Analysts from AutoInsuranceEZ examined data from the National Transportation Safety Board to track the number of car fires and compared it to sales data from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.![]()
The result? Hybrid-powered cars were involved in about 3,475 fires per every 100,000 sold. Gasoline-powered cars, about 1,530. Electric vehicles (EVs) saw just 25 fires per 100,000 sold.
There is some logic to the results. After all, gasoline-powered cars depend on combustion to move. The energy transfer electric cars use to move doesn’t involve anything burning.
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“Despite the focus on EV fires in the news,” the researchers concluded, “they are not inherently more dangerous than gas or hybrid vehicles, although electric fires tend to be more difficult than gas fires to extinguish.”
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Just gossiping here, but, what I found out after I had debadged my (Generation 2) 2018 Leaf was...the badging that said "Zero Emissions" plastered on the sides and back of the car (which I thought was beyond tacky and thus quickly removed them), was there because it was to helpfully "inform" emergency personnel that the car was an ev, not gasoline. So it would be treated differently (foam, I guess, rather than water) to put out a fire.
Again, the Leaf was one of the forerunners in the early days when EVs still were an anomaly....but it must have been a Nissan thing with their Leaf models because Tesla never badged their cars, nor did Chevrolet.
Nissan has since dropped that badging for all their new EVs. No other EV manufacturer out there has ever used any of that badging.
I agree. I think the data, to be honestly accurate, needs to be one on one with the year of manufacturer, rather than a lump pile of data without regard to vehicle age and safety inovation. Because the data sets weren't discussed, we don't know how the numbers added up except it being based upon the number of the three types of cars registered for legally being on the road vs. accident induced fires in each type.Very true, but also completely skewed by the age of EVs, and all the home repaired petrol cars, classic cars and general condition of cars up to 100 years old on the roads.
Except for the fact that the aging of EV battery has most likely a lot less influence on the risk of fire.Very true!!
27 people died in Pinto fires, and it was pulled off he market. There's 44 or more deaths associated with EV fires, and no one blinks.Does anyone remember the Pinto? Small, cute, affordable, and (if the news would have you belive) prone to bursting into flames at even a minor rear end accident. Seems the gas tank was inappropriately placed in front of the axel, exposed. Took a few fires before Ford sighed and moved the fuel tank to a safer spot.
Yes, they are very safe and reliable.Are you talking about the battery?
The similar battery in my 2010 Prius was warranted for 10 years, and it's still doing its job, almost 14 years later. Also, the price of replacing that battery has dropped dramatically from what it was when I bought the car. Approximately $2500 every 15 years isn't a bad deal. I believe most EV manufacturers are warranting their batteries for a similar period.
Also, the materials in those batteries can be recycled, though the recycling industry is in its infancy now due to lack of product - not enough batteries have worn out yet to make recycling in a large scale economically viable - yet.
Battery technology will continue to improve - I just hope the brainiacs who are involved in the development make them "plug and play", so it's easy to upgrade.
Then you will be fine. No more oil changes, no more air filter changes, rarely need brakes due to regen and best of all-no more pumping petrol. Another think I like is when I pull into my garage with the Ecar and I'm listening to a good tune, I can finish listening not having to worry about cabron monoxide!!90+% of my charging will be done at home. 90+% of my driving is well within the range of the battery.
Me too; I just shut off the engine.Another think I like is when I pull into my garage with the Ecar and I'm listening to a good tune, I can finish listening not having to worry about cabron monoxide!!
The trucks that NBC lied about exploding and then settled a lawsuit regarding their lies? Those trucks? They were caught rigging the tests with incendiary devices under the truck to sure they'd catch fire.f lee baily ( of oj fame) got gm off the hook on the dangerous side mounted gas tanks on chevy pickups all gm had to do was send a $200 coupon to the owners of the trucks with the side mounted tanks toward the purchase of a new gm truck. sorry about the caps this machine doesnt have caps lock and its a several step process to produce a capital letter always wondered about the safety of the cab mounted gas tanks.
It doesn't speak much for EVs when owners point out one of their favorite features being listening to the radio in a garage, which as you point out any ICE vehicle can do without CO poisoning unless operated by a suicidal person or an imbecile and it doesn't speak too badly of ICE vehicles if one of the worst features is faint smell of fuel when tanking up - unless they can't figure out how to operate a pump without spilling fuel on their shoes (actually an argument that has been made, minus the shoes, to mandate station attendants in Oregon).Me too; I just shut off the engine.