Dual motor; full suspension; semi-recumbent MeetOneTrike with 180nm torque @ 25 mph

[PCeBiker]

So let's hear it, folks!
Make me look stupid with buyer's regret (if this thing ever gets here)...

OK, I'll try.

The Range says "Up to 130 miles (209 km)"

That is a bunch of hooey, especially if you unlock it to 23.6 mph.

You'll need a 20mph tailwind and to be going downhill the entire trip to get that kind of mileage.

You'll only regret your purchase if you don't buy another pair of batteries for it.

MeetOne Tour

Two 15 Ah batteries totaling 30Ah of run time standard ($500 for a spare in 2024)

That's a lot of money for a 15ah battery, but it is UL-listed.

You can probably find cheaper batteries, even UL-listed ones for less if the battery doesn't have proprietary software to enable it. (A digital handshake between the controller and battery)



My two wheeled ebike weighs about 90 pounds with two batteries and I get just over 60 miles using up both batteries and Not pedaling at all.

I use up a 48V 25ah, and a 48V 19ah battery to do it with my speed limited to 32 kph.

I can go over 80 km on the 25ah battery alone if I ride at 20 kph.

 

[PCeBiker]

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@PedalUma posted about a guy that had a huge ebike with 2 huge batteries. Petaluma said that the ebike was sinfully heavy.
My ebike is a sinner too.

When the guy left his house, the computer estimated a 210 mile range (I think it was?)
The guy got less than 30 miles (I think) and the batteries were dead.


He was going 30 mph into a 30 mph headwind at full throttle.


The MeetOne trike is morbidly obese by comparison and will be REALLY Hungry all the time.

 

[sc00ter]

Comparing a base model car to a ebike purchase is this.
I don't want a torque sensor. I'm fine with cadence.
I don't want a mid-drive. I'm lazy and I'll never match the gearing up for starting off. Hub drive eliminates that mistake.
I must have a throttle, preferably a half-throttle on the right.
Two batteries are fine but I can live with just one.
3.5" wide tires are the perfect combination for me right now. I've found anything wider rides like sludge. Actually, I prefer 3" wide but the Globe Haul tires only do 3.5".
Not feature or price related but I must be able to manhandle it into my wife's Subaru Baja by myself.
Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, it's what makes us individuals!
Note that I've owned way to any ebikes. I think 8 so far have passed thru my ownership and I currently own 2.

 

[JoeDirt]

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I kind of like this one and it comes with a bunch of free upgrades.
Also this has a rear hub that powers both Wheels and it also comes with a free seat and backrest and it's foldable. I doubt I'd be able to lift it but it is foldable.! Just my two cents

 

[PCeBiker]

Comparing a base model car to a ebike purchase is this.
I don't want a torque sensor. I'm fine with cadence.

I agree.

I don't pedal so I don't need a PAS sensor or Torque sensor at all.
I don't have any hills to deal with, so I don't need a mid-drive.
That leaves my driveline virtually unused and in no need of any servicing.

A high power mid-drive destroys chains and sprockets in no time that need to be replaced regularly.

A second battery was necessary for me so I could let go of my range anxiety and hammer the throttle.

I broke the rack off my ebike with a second battery attached to it, and it had a speed wobble being mounted on the rear rack, so I managed to attach it to my top tube with special moldable plastic.

I'm 100% function over form and don't care what it looks like.
The uglier and stupider it looks makes it identifiable and less likely to get stolen.

 

[DashRiprock]

OK, I'll try.
The Range says "Up to 130 miles (209 km)"
That is a bunch of hooey, especially if you unlock it to 23.6 mph.

I have yet to come across an accurate published range for an etrike especially given obvious reasons that we could get in to.

You'll need a 20mph tailwind and to be going downhill the entire trip to get that kind of mileage.
You'll only regret your purchase if you don't buy another pair of batteries for it.

What impresses me about the Tour is that they make that literally impossible sales tool calculation even more so:
I know of not one 500# (plus) load carrying etrike which allows that same rider/environment dependent range to be easily extended by the very batteries on board versus spares. Simply select a lower PAS mode (there are evidently now 5) and use only one battery until it is depleted/switched to the other. Now I don't know about you but that is a game changer for me. Whether I'm all hills/wind going or coming back and realize what low PAS level that I've been in...I not only know when to stop if I have to due to a battery limitation but how far I can keep on going more accurately.

That's a lot of money for a 15ah battery, but it is UL-listed.

You might know more than I in terms of relative price per Ah across the marketplace. I've seen some pretty crazy high ones at the 20ah level and felt that $500 at 15ah seemed like a comparative bargain. I got one due to this possibly wrong assumption and my fear of battery prices jumping through the roof in 2025.

You can probably find cheaper batteries, even UL-listed ones for less if the battery doesn't have proprietary software to enable it. (A digital handshake between the controller and battery)

I'm encouraged that you feel there are reputable companies out there selling quality cells for these machines at decent prices that fit/won't be even more of a safety risk than the OEMs. As far as the latter risk factor as related to the proprietary software both monetarily and safety-wise(?); again I can't speak to those unknowns or how we determine which softwares don't pose any risk either way.

My two wheeled ebike weighs about 90 pounds with two batteries and I get just over 60 miles using up both batteries and Not pedaling at all.
I use up a 48V 25ah, and a 48V 19ah battery to do it with my speed limited to 32 kph.
I can go over 80 km on the 25ah battery alone if I ride at 20 kph.

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Yeah this is the trike portion of the forum in terms of discussing batteries not how far a bike will travel using one versus a trike.
I would refer to your first statement above and the answer that I really didn't want to get in to for obvious reasons.
Thanks for trying (sncerely) yet I still have not witnessed anyone come forward with an actual trike in hand which beats the MeetOne Tour let alone one which dares to compare with it.

 

[DashRiprock]

I agree.
I don't pedal so I don't need a PAS sensor or Torque sensor at all.
I don't have any hills to deal with, so I don't need a mid-drive.
That leaves my driveline virtually unused and in no need of any servicing.

You know, that's an extremely valid point which reflects a larger portion of this forum than what many believe. An even larger portion if you consider trike/quadricycle users/enthusiasts. What I liked about your earlier reply and didn't mention was the relating of your experiences in throttle only mode (bike vs trike or not). I appreciate this and wish that more would relate their experiences. So many are using trikes for mobility, can't afford to get stuck with a dead battery and often desperately need some kind of idea as to what they are getting in to before spending this kind of money.

A high power mid-drive destroys chains and sprockets in no time that need to be replaced regularly.

I had never heard that yet can imagine that the newer motors are beasts.

A second battery was necessary for me so I could let go of my range anxiety and hammer the throttle.

As offered, range anxiety is real and even worse for those who are saddled with mobility issues. I probably don't need that 3rd battery yet if I modify it to haul loads or someone else, I might.

The uglier and stupider it looks makes it identifiable and less likely to get stolen.

Agreed. While I would like this one to look more like a Harley; my Honda Fit was used for work as were a good number of my beat up (and brand new soon to be) pickups over the years. I also like the fact that this Tour isn't as easily slung around or even as simply pedaled away as other trikes out there.

Ok guys and gals, who's next up with an actual contender for the MeetOne Tour?
Or as Michael Buffer would say:

 

[DashRiprock]

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I kind of like this one and it comes with a bunch of free upgrades.
Also this has a rear hub that powers both Wheels and it also comes with a free seat and backrest and it's foldable. I doubt I'd be able to lift it but it is foldable.! Just my two cents

If you just want something with a motor in it, no suspension (which is but one dealbreaker for me) and features that were honestly not available even a few years ago, Lectric has a great value proposition above.
Now to compare that trike to the Tour in any way, shape, form or more importantly feature by feature(?)...we're not even in the ballpark which most would agree with.
I would put that trike in the same category as my 2010 Honda Fit as someone had previously mentioned:
Good for what it is yet definitely not something that you're taking offload (period) let alone comfortably (off-road or not)...and you darn well better be watching your Ps and Qs when you turn it...even a little.

Should we just limit this to fat tire etrikes with full suspensions to make certain that we're comparing apples to apples?
If we did(?)...believe me...the list of 'comers' dwindles down real fast.
Comfort and control will certainly be biggies in my future evaluations of etrikes.

 

[DashRiprock]

Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, it's what makes us individuals

It's just a generational thing.
You have to make brash, very simple, indisputably factual statements nowadays to get what you want when comparing everything else with the best.
I want someone to tell me that there is something better out there under very generous parameters, to name it and to prove it. Pretty simple.
I'm not really interested in every machine or every opinion clearly outside those parameters and have a hard time apologizing (won't) for sticking on topic.
Again, just the way a previous generation operated to keep life moving along in an orderly fashion outside the confines of a knitting club session.

So again, I offer this challenge:
What fat tire trike with even close to decent suspension matches up toe to toe with this MeetOne Tour(?)
Is that all you've got(?) as I'm about to declare this Tour "Trike of the Year" in this extremely important category...by default!!!

 

[DashRiprock]

For those of you even remotely interested in this etrike; I put in a request today for a physical address for the company (distributors as well) and related information regarding spare parts that I have ordered for it which is fairly extensive.
I will also ask if there are any alternate reviewers for this trike who have one in hand and whether they will be getting an actual phone answering system with the company name included in the message and a phone tree.
I am spending well over $4k here and would ideally like someone out west to drop by the address and to physically meet with the folks there answering the phone and handling the day to day business.
I am not recommending this trike to anyone.
What I am up here asking is what out there is better(?)...while at the same time trying to convince myself that everything will go as planned so that any comparison can ever be made on this end at the very least.

So far, my communications with MeetOne have been very positive with no red flags raised saved for the questions that I hope to get answered very soon. Stay tuned. https://meetonetrike.com/collections/electric-trikes

 

[PCeBiker]

I have yet to come across an accurate published range for an etrike especially given obvious reasons that we could get in to.

Electric Trike Review covered your MeetOne trike.

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I don't pedal so I don't need a PAS sensor or Torque sensor at all.
I don't have any hills to deal with, so I don't need a mid-drive.
That leaves my driveline virtually unused and in no need of any servicing.

You know, that's an extremely valid point which reflects a larger portion of this forum than what many believe. An even larger portion if you consider trike/quadricycle users/enthusiasts.

It has been suggested that I don't belong here on this forum because I have a throttle and don't pedal.
My response was that @Court (the founder of this forum) reviewed my ebike.

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GPS or odometer?

It seems every Ebike I have owned in is 5%+ optimistic vs the app I use. I’ll take the 33.3. 😅

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[PCeBiker]

For those of you even remotely interested in this etrike;

I have no interest in owning an e-trike and you may very well have purchased the Best E-Trike that money can buy.
I do know that the MeetOne Tour would be the trike I'd want if I did want one.

However,.. I'm with @sc00ter and I'm really curious to know how this trike works for you.


I know that if it were mine, I'd load it up with the recommended 500 pound payload, two fully charged charged batteries, unlock it to 37.9 kph and hammer the throttle to set up a baseline for the Absolute Worst range possible.

That's something that I personally would want to know about any electric vehicle I would ever own.

s*it always happens, and when it does, it's gonna happen at the worst possible time.
And we all know that bad luck comes in three's.


I was out for one of my 85-100 km rides when I encountered this,..

I had no idea that the Bridge was washed out, and had to do 9 km detour.

That's not very far, but it is on an ebike and it would have Sucked to run out of battery and have to pedal unassisted for even 2 km.

When I finally figured out how to attach a second battery to my ebike, I took it for a range test where I could FINALLY Run my 25ah battery all the way down to see how far I can get on a Complete charge.

I was getting a little tired after a couple hours and decided to hit the gas and just kill the battery (my controller cuts out before the battery's BMS shuts it down at ~40V)

I made it 72 km (full throttle at the end) before my ebike finally shut down.

I went to swap the battery and realized that I forgot the Damn key for the battery lock on the e-bike !!

Luckily, I was only 7½ km from home, and it was the voltage sag from full throttle that shut me down, so I had a little bit of juice left in the battery.

So I worked the throttle gingerly, and helped by pedaling. I could get some distance before it shut down on me again.

The battery finally shut down for the last time when I had about 2 km left, and had to pedal the rest of the way home.
That did kinda suck, but it could have been worse.


If I had been further out, I would have used my multi-tool and a rock to smash the battery bracket to release the battery.
You always need a backup plan.

I ended up shaving the key down to a nub, and gluing it into the keyhole,..

I can still remove the key and use the second full size key if need be, but I don't need to lock the battery or the e-bike.
I'm always with my e-bike unless I fall off, but I always land close by.

 

[DashRiprock]

This guy is beyond over the top excited by the Tour and just revealed today that the preorder is sold out.
I don't see any change in the delivery date on the website as of tonight which obviously doesn't make sense.
Anyhow, here is the latest on the Tour:

 

[PCeBiker]

I watched the video and took this picture,..

That's a Heavy Duty chain probably for a motorcycle, so you won't have to worry about replacing it for a Long time.


He also said that it came with two 20ah batteries.
If your batteries are actually 20ah at $500 each, then that's a pretty good deal, especially if they are UL certified.

He also mentioned how he liked the level of effort it takes to get moving compared to other torque sensing e-trikes he's riden.

Some torque sensors can be adjusted for the level of effort necessary to activate the power using a programming mode and sometimes a computer or smartphone to adjust it.

Most proprietary stuff doesn't let you adjust Any of those types of settings.

I have no idea about your particular e-trike and its settings.



The only thing that comes to mind for me at least, as far as upgrades go, is adjustable air shocks front and back.

You could have them powered to raise and lower the whole trike, and do fun stuff like this,..

Or SLAM IT before a turn so you can corner at top speed.

 

[DashRiprock]

Some initial thoughts on the last video:
> This thing at least seemingly gets up to top speed much faster (pedal or throttle; likely due to 180nm of torque) than any trike that I have witnessed on video.
> It is taking corners with confidence if the rider's actions are any clue
> Being able to 'unlock' the throttle is nice.
> At top speed, I don't sense anyone holding on for dear life as you do normally when you remember what you're on.
> I'm starting to believe that the suspension is real enough despite not being tested anywhere but well paved/maintained suburbia.
> The torque sensor seems smooth.
> Did I say that I really like heavy capacity trikes able to get off the line?

 

[DashRiprock]

...better pics of the Tour's optional seat. I'm impressed with it and ordered one for what I consider a fair price of $200:

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