- Mazovia, Poland
Then burn your house with a cheap battery.
My son runs the Talon E+2. It has been flawless.Thanks - I think this is what I imagined when I first started thinking about an ebike.
What about the Talon E+ 3 for a beginner? (And then someone mentioned upgrading the fork later?) $2300 might be in the ballpark of what I could look at.
Cheaper option and can always add middrive kit later if they need assistance.I'd start with an analog hardtail first - especially if the goal is to shed some pounds while exploring. You can get a nice starter bike for a grand, where good eMTBs are gonna be tough on that budget. You'll also need a few basic tools and some way to carry them, helmet, gloves, possibly some apparel. If you hate it, you're not knee-deep. You can also build some basic skills before getting on something fast & heavy & complex.
Is the battery the Nike swoosh water bottle?For the folks who say, 'I want to get exercise; eBikes are cheating.' I tell them to go fill their tires with water then, so they can suffer more, while getting more exercise. Of course they would just ride a lot less. The bikes I prefer make you work for the payoff. When you sweat a little, that is when the bike gives its all. They are a thrill. And you ride a lot more while gaining fitness. If I were on a budget and wanted an everything, everywhere bike, that I could later convert, I would buy this from bikes online. It can even work for bikepacking. Weight is a huge factor. Less is so much more. Sometime later you could install a dropper and an air fork, but chromo is nice. This is a real bike at a big box BSO, bike shaped object, price. After conversion a bike like this will come in with a 50/50 weight distribution and be about 40 pounds.
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This will give him a much better ebike but his avowed budget isn't in this league, although he did say maybe he can step up to that Giant linked earlier, which looks like a good buy.For the electric stuff, ignore anything hub motor and ignore anything not torque sensing.
I think he's looking at budget ebikes and, as an inexperienced shopper, is probably seeing a lot of fat 20" wheels in that class of bike. And since those cheap bikes have hub motors, the 20" wheel does have limited benefits for light use.For wheel size, not sure where 20" came from.
^^^ this! So much about component choice is rooted in bicycle marketing. This 3-minute educational video will explain the industry and its improvement treadmill:All that said, I wouldn't worry too much about wheel size, its not as important as people make it out to be.
@Slaphappygamer can cut anyone stickers. That was a temporary joke that I got a kick out of. I also used silicone gasket maker to attach a bottle top to the battery. Can you believe the price on that Marin XC adventure bike?Is the battery the Nike swoosh water bottle?
I have a younger brother that lives in Utah and he sends me pictures and videos all the time
of the trails he is on. About 90% of them I could do with a basic lower end e-bike like I have which is a folding 20x4 inch tire bike.
I met a new friend last week and he was riding a $5000+
bike, Class 2. While it was full suspension, and a heck of a nice bike, on this trail could it do anything more than my lowly inexpensive e-bike? The ONLY benefit to his bike over mine was the battery capacity and extra add-on battery support, which adds weight and complexity to any bike.