Commuting 30 miles, need help picking a bike

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I’m new to ebikes and would really appreciate some advice. I live in Brooklyn and need to commute to Manhattan, which will be a little over 30 miles round trip. I’m simply not getting on a subway during this pandemic. I would really appreciate some suggestions on ebikes with good range that won’t cause me
 
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I’m new to ebikes and would really appreciate some advice. I live in Brooklyn and need to commute to Manhattan, which will be a little over 30 miles round trip. I’m simply not getting on a subway during this pandemic. I would really appreciate some suggestions on ebikes with good range that won’t cause me
What's your budget?
 
Hey. I'm not sure what happened to my original post. It appears to have been cut in half. I'm looking at a budget around $2K. My big needs are range and reliability. I'm looking at 150+ miles a week.
 
If you're OK with buying online Juiced and Rad City offer bikes that will meet your criteria. Otherwise you'll need to look at the 'big 3', Specialized, Trek and Giant. Giant has a bit more affordable offerings, Trek and Specialized a bit more features but generally above your budget.

Is there an ebike dealer nearby? I recommend taking a look at their offerings to get a feel for price and features. Do some test rides. Check back in.

Good hunting.
 
Sounds like you want a bike right now and cannot pre-order a bike? A lot of the online sellers do not have inventory.

Do you require a throttle? Some want the ability to ride it like a scooter and not have to pedal.

I can recommend this bike. It does not have a throttle, but it has a Yamaha motor and good components. It would definitely have the range. If they do not have your size, this seller currently has all sizes available for a bit more.
 
Much of the advice you get on forums is not in your interest. Most people are trying to justify their own choices by urging you to buy what they bought. Whatever you do, don't listen to anyone who tells you not to listen to the advice of others...Hah, I guess that eliminates me ;)

The best thing you can do is be as precise as you can about how often and under what conditions you think you are going to ride. This will help a knowledgeable dealer guide you to a bike that will serve you best.

If you are like most of us you will ride your ebike more often and further than you ever imagined possible. Spending more money on a better built, safer, more reliable bike will be one of the best decisions you ever made. And I suspect I am not alone in that once I got going with my first ebike, I discovered latent capabilities within myself that lead down the road to longer. more athletic, endurance riding, something that never occurred to me going into it. Buying a better, more versatile bike at first kept me riding longer till I could afford the kind of bike that I eventually learned would be right for me. That process took over a year in.

Add a grain of salt to the advice you get here. Some of it can be quite good and well informed but there are occasionally shills hiding in the corners, promoting their new brand. And then there is the fact that individuals riders often exhibit confirmation bias in their comments just wanting to give them affirmation for their choices.

Do it your self/retrofit guys can't imagine why someone would spend good money on a manufactured bike from the ground up ebike. Fans of low priced, Chinese made, hub motor bikes would not be caught dead on center drive bikes. Fans of German made equipment really don;t hardly bother looking at bikes from other countries. Some people will never even look at a bike without a throttle, while other would never have a bike with one. fans of a particular brand will insist the one they chose is the only one to buy.

If you are like most riders, you are not a mechanic, don't have the know how, tools, time or interest in converting a bike to an ebike or maintaining your production bike. Some of us live for this stuff others just want to ride. Most will need help from a local bike shop. Don't expect people at that shop to care about keeping your bike running smoothly if you bought a bike on line.

The only support you will get from an on line seller, if you are lucky, is phone help to diagnose the problem and they send you parts to replace yourself or you will pay a local shop to replace for you.

If you decide that building out an ebike is not for you, it is likely best to spend a little more and have a dedicated local shop standing behind the sale in who's interest it is to keep you happy and rolling along. Living in Brrokly, the first place I would check out is Propel Bike Shop. They have a good assortment of bikes, and an excellent reputation.


The most common comment I have heard from new ebike owners is almost always something like: "I never imagined I would be riding a bike this often or this far" Buying a cheaper, mass produced bike may or may not give you the same quality of "whoopee!!" experience that boosts you right into an enthusiastic embrace of ebiking.

All too often people who buy lesser bikes seem to arrive at regrets sooner because the bike's inherent limitations just never quite enabled it to do what they want. Personally I ended up spending way more than I initially thought I would or should. Given how much time I now spend on my bike, something I never could have imagined, I am glad I spent what I did and got a bike I can count on, that enhances my enjoyment every time I ride it.

My advice: Take your time but don't get bogged down in research paralysis. Test ride lots of bikes until you find the one that puts the biggest grin on your face and the people selling it you like the best. Then, if you can possibly afford it, pay more than you first thought you were willing to spend. The pain of paying out some more money wears off quickly. The joy of riding a bike that really suits you will endure long into the future every time you saddle up.
 
Sounds like you want a bike right now and cannot pre-order a bike? A lot of the online sellers do not have inventory.

Do you require a throttle? Some want the ability to ride it like a scooter and not have to pedal.

I can recommend this bike. It does not have a throttle, but it has a Yamaha motor and good components. It would definitely have the range. If they do not have your size, this seller currently has all sizes available for a bit more.
I'm ok waiting. As a teacher, I won't physically be back on my campus until October. I just want to jump on this before the shipping delays get even worse. I'd love to buy from a local retailer, but most of the retailers around me are selling very high end bikes. The cheaper bikes they offer are not reliable enough for the kind of commuting I need. Thanks for you suggestion. The Haibike looks amazing. I hadn't seen this one before.
 
Chances are you won't need a class 3 ebike capable of going up to 28 mph, not with the kind of pedestrian traffic you'll encounter. So Class 1, the 20 mph top speed would suit you fine.

Alaskan raises some good points in that the best ebike we know is likely the one we own. But poke around on this forum especially in the Brands section and you'll eventually get a good feel for the ebikes that work day after day without issue and the other ones that do not. You want something that is going to power up each and every time, not flake out halfway across the Brooklyn Bridge on a cold, windy winter commute.

To that, I would suggest a look at the major brands that are powered by the Big Three of ebike motors, Bosch, Yamaha and Specialized. Propel Ebikes over in Brooklyn seem to be a more Bosch-centric retailer these days. Maybe for good reason, but again, poke around the forums and you may find those pesky reports about rider's displays not turning on due to the contacts not contacting due to dirt and grime build up. Over on the Specialized forums, folks are dealing with internal drive belt failures that render the motor unusable. And over at the Yamaha forums, well, folks are pretty darned pleased with the kind of mileage they are getting out of a full charge. Failures are minimal compared to the other two heavy hitters.

Another motor company establishing their reputation is Shimano.

Myself, I have owned my Haibike Full FatSix since early spring, 2017. I've ridden it every month of the year since taking ownership. Drive system issues? None in over 11 thousand miles. It just works, every single time I set out to ride. Wait a minute, I did have a rear spoke magnet that loosened up on me on one ride. Retightened it up and I was on my way! This ebike is powered by Yamaha. So yes, I have my biases but it's based on real world riding. For any future ebike, I'd only consider a Yamaha edrive.

The Yamaha motors can be found on Giant, Yamaha and Haibike. That Haibike Trekking that Nova Haibike linked to features the bulletproof Yamaha edrive. Components on the bike are mid to low-mid tier range, and they are easily upgraded to top tier components whenever you are ready to go that route. The added plus is that those Haibike Trekking bikes come with an attractive price.

Good luck in whatever you choose to do!
 
I would recommend what I have ! High powered big battery fat tired bike. Eats up the bumps and potholes and has lots of power. I just can't excited with these euro spec limited bikes. Where's the beef ? Seriously ride as many as you can.
 
I would recommend what I have ! High powered big battery fat tired bike. Eats up the bumps and potholes and has lots of power. I just can't excited with these euro spec limited bikes. Where's the beef ? Seriously ride as many as you can.
I’m curious to know what you’re riding. I’m open to all suggestions.
 
I’m new to ebikes and would really appreciate some advice. I live in Brooklyn and need to commute to Manhattan, which will be a little over 30 miles round trip. I’m simply not getting on a subway during this pandemic. I would really appreciate some suggestions on ebikes with good range that won’t cause me
i took Ocean Parkway 2 weeks ago , rode from Pier 11, through Prospect Park. I always kept it @28/29mph on Ocean Pkwy, all the way to Coney island.
With a fast ebike, you will be very safe on Ny roads.

Whatever you get, it has to be a class 3 ebike, min 85NM. Visit Greenpath, Propel shops


b/c your budget is limited , your best option is AVENTON 700. You don't need an expensive ebike.

Either one of this 2: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/aventon-level-vs-ride1up-700.31927/
 
For urban commuting i would get a good fat bike with some range but my choices would cost about 500bucks more,I would check out a Juiced Rip Current S ,Biktrix Juggernaut Classic with 17ah battery upgrade,Biktrix stunner with 17ah battery upgrade! If you must keep it under 2000 Check out the Ride one up limited, if you don't want to shop online just buy an Arrow from a Lbs in Brooklyn at least you know those things are city tested. Whatever you choose I would be sure its at least 750watt motor, 48v 14ah battery minimum,28mph top speed, you will need it in Manhattan.........again I strongly suggest stepping into the 2500 range!
 
I’m curious to know what you’re riding. I’m open to all suggestions.

Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra

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I would think most any bike is good for 30 miles round trip plus you can always recharge at work. I would go with a fat tire for traction come winter. I would also want a throttle for stop&go city riding.
 
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I would think most any bike is good for 30 miles round trip plus you can always recharge at work. I would go with a fat tire for traction come winter. I would also want a throttle for stop&go city riding.
Fat tires in winter depends on the conditions. Based on my experience, fat tires are useless on ice, and slush. A fat tire in slush is like a bulldozer trying to shove it.
 
Fat tires in winter depends on the conditions. Based on my experience, fat tires are useless on ice, and slush. A fat tire in slush is like a bulldozer trying to shove it.


You need studded tires on ice with any bike. And with the Ultra, it will blast through deep slush.
 
I took the advice from this forum and decided to go down to my LBS and fell in love with two bikes I wasn't event considering. The Yamaha Cross Core and the BH Easy Motion ATOM Diamond Wave Pro (2019). Both Class 1, no throttle, but they were such quality bikes. The BH is so discounted at the store I went to that the price between these two is almost identical after I buy fenders and a rack for the Yamaha. There are pros and cons to both, but I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts on either of these bikes. I'm hoping to go and buy one later today.
 
They are really different bikes, one being more of a touring bike with fenders, front fork, rack etc. I suggest you really think about how and where you will be riding. Keep in mind that most people ride ebike way further and way more often than they expect going in. They are just so much fun. As such extra money spent will really pay off in quality, comfort and durability.

BH is pulling out out of the US bike market so support may become an issue and more than a few Brose motors have had problems with internal belts leading to failure.

The Yamaha is more stripped down, lighter, no fenders or suspension, less of a commuter/touring bike and more of a flat bar road bike. If there are problems, the Yamaha would likely be way easier to deal with.

I think you will be better off with the Yamaha possibly adding fenders and a rack for better commuting. I would definitely put a Kinekt body float seat post on that bike if I lived in NYC with how bad the roads can be. You butt will thank you. It is the most expensive but also the best and most easily dialed in for your weight and comfort. I would want to add a suspension fork at some point or at least Baramind flexible handlebars to help with hand comfort on rough roadways. I would also consider putting larger tires on the bike for comfort as well but that can wait. I have the Baramind and the Kinekt seat post on my Trek Allant and the ride is actually quite comfortable (and I am old and heavy).

Get the bike and start riding while the weather is still good. The Baramind handlebar is less than $100 and should go on ASAP. I would start with the rack and the suspension seat post right off the bat as well. The fenders can be put on when the weather starts to get wetter. If the handlebars are enough for you, forget about the front suspension fork.


Same bike with front fork, fenders, rack and better lights. worth the extra $$$ for a regular daily commute of 30 miles.
 
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I took the advice from this forum and decided to go down to my LBS and fell in love with two bikes I wasn't event considering. The Yamaha Cross Core and the BH Easy Motion ATOM Diamond Wave Pro (2019). Both Class 1, no throttle, but they were such quality bikes. The BH is so discounted at the store I went to that the price between these two is almost identical after I buy fenders and a rack for the Yamaha. There are pros and cons to both, but I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts on either of these bikes. I'm hoping to go and buy one later today.

Mind sounds made up. Time to quit asking for advice and go buy what you want
 
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