~50 lbs, full featured Watt Wagons City Commuter! Class 3 with throttle, $3199, optional electronic shifting, shipping July !

The overall design consideration was total weight (~50 lbs). For city riding, we are assuming folks are not lugging around 50-60 lbs of cargo. Notice that the 210lb limit does not include the weight of the second battery. So you can do 235lbs with single battery no problem. I wanted to be clear about what is ideal maxed out weight with the second battery included. I will add that note / clarification to the 210 limit.

Does that help ? Clearly I am not good at marketing. 😂
Thanks for the explanation, and just to be clear it's not your fault that people have gotten so heavy. It's always interesting to see folks spending tons of effort to make their bike a few grams lighter when the best way to lower total weight is to take a few pounds off their body weight.
 
Yikes. I can replicate the jumping it if I do offroad only ... like grass, throttle up a 30% incline, max assist and highest gear. It is not terrible but not ideal.

Also - Looks like that amount of stress damaged the hub, and now I can replicate it even at at lower assist. Clearly not ideal. I did not see that issue on Shimano Nexus 5 speed (thats the other hub)

I am switching to Shimano SG-C7000-5D for the base config. It adds a wee bit more weight (right around 51lb) but definitely no issues on those. Still within the spec without a lot of compromises.

THANK YOU for highlighting this. Clearly i missed testing this specific scenario.

I will post pics of the electronic shifting of my test rig after i clean up the bike a bit. Hopefully by the weekend.
I am bloody impressed, Pushkar! One random test failure (in an unlikely city commute scenario) and you're switching componentry to maintain quality and customer service. This is yet another example of why I chose Watt Wagons, the Superbike, and most importantly, you!

The product quality will be there, no doubt, but people buy from people, and your service and committment to your customers is simply outstanding! Well done (and thank you to the members of this forum that guided me here and continue to make this experience great)!
 
I am bloody impressed, Pushkar! One random test failure (in an unlikely city commute scenario) and you're switching componentry to maintain quality and customer service. This is yet another example of why I chose Watt Wagons, the Superbike, and most importantly, you!

The product quality will be there, no doubt, but people buy from people, and your service and committment to your customers is simply outstanding! Well done (and thank you to the members of this forum that guided me here and continue to make this experience great)!


I appreciate this bud. My goal is to offer things that just work. This incident also highlighted that WW customers are super-focused on helping me keep the quality top-notch for every offering.

I am extremely grateful and thankful for everyone's inputs. I will continue to test edge cases over the coming weeks (prior to launch).
 
Added a picture of the white version with dual batteries.

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I only have 3 bikes, and my manual bike is out of commission. However, there are a few segways, EUCs, and even a scooter around here somewhere.
 
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definitely not as nice looking with that extra battery, but way better than having to carry the battery and do a swap. Hopefully the rack is easily replaced with something like the Super-Tourist (disc).
 
definitely not as nice looking with that extra battery, but way better than having to carry the battery and do a swap. Hopefully the rack is easily replaced with something like the Super-Tourist (disc).

Yup. YOu can swap out the racks - no problem. The samples dont have additional rack mounts on the chainstays - but production version will have those.
 
Is that the WWW (watt wagons warehouse)? I think it looks more balanced with the spare battery. Wrap it with something else and I think it might even be disguised to look like a bag or something.
 
I f-ing love this bike! The damn Superbike better look just as good, if not better!!! Clearly the focus is on this surprise launch, but I'm with @byunbee we need to see something soon on the superbike soon, otherwise we might have to buy this thing to survive the summer.
 
I f-ing love this bike! The damn Superbike better look just as good, if not better!!! Clearly the focus is on this surprise launch, but I'm with @byunbee we need to see something soon on the superbike soon, otherwise we might have to buy this thing to survive the summer.
This is my way of saying...what's the discount for current WW customers? We just bought the Kid a new bike, but I might be able to convince the Girl to get an e-bike with me....
 
Looks like you could put 1-2 more batteries on the frame with some creativity, and another one on the rear rack. Imagine the range and marketing potential.🤡
 
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