EMTB Advice?

Am 80 years old but do not want to stop biking.

Keep in mind that if you're spending upwards of $3000 on an ebike, it Damn Well better be what YOU Want.

The salesperson is there to facilitate YOU
Not themselves.

Make sure that they know that you know what you're talking about.

You know what you want and need.
Don't get caught up in the hype.

(I got caught up in the hype and ended up with a Fat Bike for my first ebike.
Fat Bikes are stupid. Lol)
 
There is no Aventon bike shop closer than 3 hours driving time. I have 3 Bafang builds in my barn. My problem is related to my age and while I am not having balance problems many of my friends are having issues and are giving up their bikes. I am trying to avoid the few seconds where balance is critical (mounting and dismounting a moving bike ).
 
The Frey CC sounds like it would be worth taking a look at. There are a few EBR owners so there's content on here if you search.

Additionally Biktrix has quite a few powerful low step bikes.
 
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I woulda bought Biktrix, but it was too rich for my blood for my first ebike.

I went with Voltbike for my second ebike.
I ride on flat ground, so a hub bike was what I wanted.


 

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I am trying to avoid the few seconds where balance is critical (mounting and dismounting a moving bike ).

I don't have any balance issues, but I have fallen over more than a few dozen times.

I need to be on my toe tips to clear the upper battery (and my jewels😁) when I'm stopped.

I don't mount my ebike while moving.
I lean my 100 pound ebike towards me and step over while holding the handlebars.

Once I'm "mounted", it's just a matter of keeping my jewels from being crushed.

I need to land on my toes.

If I land flat-foot, I land on my jewels too. 😁
 

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There is no Aventon bike shop closer than 3 hours driving time. I have 3 Bafang builds in my barn.

Don't negate Bafang.
They build mid-drive motors too.
It ain't garbage.

I just added a Bafang mid-drive to my Bafang hub drive.


I don't have any hills to climb, but I'm ready for a 40 knot headwind. 😁
 

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There is no Aventon bike shop closer than 3 hours driving time. I have 3 Bafang builds in my barn. My problem is related to my age and while I am not having balance problems many of my friends are having issues and are giving up their bikes. I am trying to avoid the few seconds where balance is critical (mounting and dismounting a moving bike ).
Aventon has dealers but will also ship a 90% assembled bike for the same money. Put on the bar, front wheel, and pedals. If something really goes bad under warranty, then take it to the State Capitol or wherever when you already have other business there to attend.
 
You sound like you have plenty of experience, so this may be obvious, but do you tilt your bike sideways-- e.g., so the left side is closer to the ground than the right-- when getting on?

This is one reason I prefer lighter bikes. I'm 68 and 6" 1' (or 6" 2' on a good day) and 150 pounds with long legs, so I need a large frame. However, increasingly, when I stop at a light, or on the trail, or for any reason, I do so by angling the bike slightly to the left, and same when I get back on. But maybe this is exactly the moment when you are worried about losing your balance-- when you tip the bike fully upright and launch. My left leg has had three blood clots so I know I can't really trust it in this situation-- if I feel like I'm lifting it 10 inches off the ground, odds are it's only six inches off the ground.. So I stand on the left, tilt the bike left, and swing my right leg over the rear wheel-- the step-through vs. not step-through never even comes into play. My bike's top tube is JUST high enough that I can step forward to get off the saddle without having the excruciating thing happen, then I tilt the bike to the left side, and swing my right leg over the back wheel.

This only works because my bikes are very lightweight, of course. And this is why I'd never ride a motorcycle. They are too heavy. I remember having to re-park my buddy's Yamaha 750 when he was too drunk to drive, and it was terrifying. If the bike had leaned over more than 10 degrees from perpendicular, I would have dropped it for sure. Was a truly stupid situation-- he'd had about 12 beers and I'd had eight, and did not know how to ride a motorcycle. But it was in NYC, so all I had to do was make it across 72nd street, which somehow I did.

By the way, since no one else said it: Good on you for staying in the game as long as you can! Best of luck on the hunt.
 
I like Bafang myself, but I like cheap crap. Lol


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100% my own creation, but I'm my own mechanic.
I order parts directly from China. 😁


Keep in mind that a suspension ebike needs to sit higher so the suspension has room to travel.

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Bafang are reliable & great to do repairs because of parts availability. But yeah you need to be a good mechanic/electrician and I'm neither!
 
Our most popular and best selling E-MTB's:

Amflow PL, PX, and PR
Orbea Wild
Mondraker Crafty RR
Cannondale Moterra

None of them have step-thru frames. All of them come with dropper posts.
 
Our most popular and best selling E-MTB's:

Amflow PL, PX, and PR
Orbea Wild
Mondraker Crafty RR
Cannondale Moterra

None of them have step-thru frames. All of them come with dropper posts.
Well the OP has thrown up an interesting split. A quick search seems it's mostly German and French brands that do the full sus open frames. Moustache, Cube, Haibike. Perhaps there is more demand in alpine mountainous regions there.
 
Our most popular and best selling E-MTB's:

Amflow PL, PX, and PR
Orbea Wild
Mondraker Crafty RR
Cannondale Moterra

None of them have step-thru frames. All of them come with dropper posts.
Don't Orbea offer 'Mid' frame versions of their EMTBs? With a lowered top tube version.
 
Bafang are reliable & great to do repairs because of parts availability. But yeah you need to be a good mechanic/electrician and I'm neither!
It's never too late to learn... Being self sufficient has many advantages.

Our most popular and best selling E-MTB's:

Amflow PL, PX, and PR
Orbea Wild
Mondraker Crafty RR
Cannondale Moterra

None of them have step-thru frames. All of them come with dropper posts.
I don't think the more popular brands take age into consideration.
 
The Frey CC sounds like it would be worth taking a look at. There are a few EBR owners so there's content on here if you search.

Additionally Biktrix has quite a few powerful low step bikes.
Both of those bikes would work. Any feel for a comparison?
Aventon has dealers but will also ship a 90% assembled bike for the same money. Put on the bar, front wheel, and pedals. If something really goes bad under warranty, then take it to the State Capitol or wherever when you already have other business there to attend.
I have learned my lesson with mail order e bikes. Twice I have ended up selling the bikes as they did not work and once paying over $300 to ship it back. I will wait on Aventon until I go to Boise on a shopping trip.
 
I posted a question in the Frey and Biktrix forums to see how owners felt about their bikes. I will hit the three bike shops in town on Tuesday (after most of the weekender tourons go home). I am sure the 3 bike shops will have some well known options and will be familiar with repair and parts. Another option would be to buy a decent MTB and add a motor/battery kit. The third option is to take my current heavy hardtail out and give the trail a try (when it stops raining). The last option is to give up riding on intermediate and rougher trails and ride on roads and easy trails (which usually are very dirt road like).
 
No personal experience but from what I read the Frey CC is a well liked bike by owners. I know of 3 that post on here and their posts should be easy to find for more information. Maybe send them a PM?
I came very close to buying one myself but then Zen offered me their prototype at a very fair price plus Ravi offered to add the Rohloff so I went that route.
Biktrix now offers a very similar bike to my Zen that wasn't available when I got mine.

For the most part Biktrix seems to be reputable but didn't offer anything I liked when I was researching so I don't have much info
As I recall both use hardware that is mostly mainstream and easy to find. So not much proprietary/exotic stuff to be an issue down the road.
I'd research this as I haven't in a while and things may be changing
 
My Zen has been a very reliable hardtail and the only issue I had was its weight. it presented issues when loading and unloading the bike as several of our favorite rides are about an hour away by auto. Last summer my wife bought me a Velotric Discover 2 which weighs about 20lbs lighter, but is still a hard tail. Neither bike likes the riprap used to repair the trails or trails with a lot of rocks and roots.
 
My Zen has been a very reliable hardtail and the only issue I had was its weight. it presented issues when loading and unloading the bike as several of our favorite rides are about an hour away by auto. Last summer my wife bought me a Velotric Discover 2 which weighs about 20lbs lighter, but is still a hard tail. Neither bike likes the riprap used to repair the trails or trails with a lot of rocks and roots.
I think most high power full suspension bikes are going to be heavy. Powerful motor performs better with a larger battery.
I believe mine is 77 pounds with the stock 21Ah battery... and has excellent range.
I recently fitted a 10Ah battery from my BBS02B build and it is noticeably lighter. I can get over 30 miles on the smaller battery so it's great for my daily exercise ride
 
I think most high power full suspension bikes are going to be heavy. Powerful motor performs better with a larger battery.
I believe mine is 77 pounds with the stock 21Ah battery... and has excellent range.
I recently fitted a 10Ah battery from my BBS02B build and it is noticeably lighter. I can get over 30 miles on the smaller battery so it's great for my daily exercise ride
Is your Zen frame the same as the photon ultra with the battery built into the down tube? How did you attach the other battery and cover the hole in the frame? I had mine weighed at my LBS and they said it weighed close to 85lbs.
 
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