Vado Derestriction

[Nonlinear]

I agree with CHRIS and Stefan Mikes - Peartune works great. I installed this in 2023 on my Vado 5.0 IGH, and posted information about it here: https://forums.electricbikereview.c...or-peartune-4-0-mso-on-2022-turbo-vado.51792/. There are other threads on this forum about Peartune on Vado/Brose as well, so I'm surprised OP wasn't able to locate this information.

I've had zero issues with the radar using Peartune as well.

 

[mobilejo]

I would only go with Peartune.

I have the MSO 3.0 for SL 1.1 installed on my 25 km/h 2021 Vado SL (Poland). There is a version to derestrict On Demand, and also a version that is Always On (for SL e-bikes without the Walk Mode button, for instance, the Creo 1). My version derestricts the e-bike on pushing the Walk Mode button once.

Having said the above, let me say I do not always derestrict my Vado SL. For instance, I often organize small group rides under the motto: "No snails*, no horses**, max 25 km/h" Having the e-bike restricted increases the battery range tremendously! However, I join faster group rides too. Without the derestrictor I could not follow faster riders!

MSO 3.0 is not a bug free chip. It often produces "Motor Error" messages when on. I can live with that.
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*) Snail = A weak traditional cyclist, max speed 18 km/h, average up to 15 km/h
**) Horse = a performing cyclist, average speed at least 30 km/h on asphalt.

Why do you recommend Peartune over Speedbox, in particular with the bug that you mention?

I have a Speedbox 3.0 with the bluetooth app and I cannot fault it. I can activate from the bike controller or via the app, and set whatever speed limit I require from the bike or cia the app.

Admittedly I have never used a Peartune but the bug you describe sounds like it makes it an easy choice to choose the Speedbox over it surely.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Why do you recommend Peartune over Speedbox, in particular with the bug that you mention?

I have a Speedbox 3.0 with the bluetooth app and I cannot fault it. I can activate from the bike controller or via the app, and set whatever speed limit I require from the bike or cia the app.

Admittedly I have never used a Peartune but the bug you describe sounds like it makes it an easy choice to choose the Speedbox over it surely.

Use whatever you like. It is illegal anyway

 

[JustRiding]

Warranty will be void by fitting this device as its detectable by Specialized, also the bike would now be considered illegal and open to confiscation by the authorities if used on the public highway.

not only that. If you get involved in an accident , you will likely get issues both with your bike and medical insurance and they may make you partly liable for the accident even of caused by the other party. I also find the idea of an unrestricted bike (or one as fast as a class 3 in US) tempting - specifically as it is the same bike used in the US, but the risks associated with it when you use it in public traffic in my view are too high

 

[teskow]

How about installing a switch that shuts the restrictor on and off as one is riding on private land or a public place where speed is restricted. I could set my RCS up like that on the display.
This leaves it up to the responsibility of the operator to follow the rules and regulations of the situation. We do that all the time with our automobiles. No governors on them. Why bicycles?

 

[Nonlinear]

How about installing a switch that shuts the restrictor on and off as one is riding on private land or a public place where speed is restricted. I could set my RCS up like that on the display.
This leaves it up to the responsibility of the operator to follow the rules and regulations of the situation. We do that all the time with our automobiles. No governors on them. Why bicycles?

The PearTune allows you to switch the restrictor on and off, by pressing a short button sequence

 

[Chargeride]

That is expressly forbidden in the UK legislation, there can be no mechanism to increase the speed, even one only used offroad.
In reality it could be an app setting and ludicrously difficult to prove or stand up in court
Berm Peak addresses this in his Amflow video, you can change the speed settings yourself, the legality is actually a sticker on the frame.

 

[Cycologist]

The 15-mph rule is absurd. I feel bad for you guys over in the UK.
My average speed during a ride on my non-electric bike is higher than 15-mph and I go much faster than that in certain areas.
It seems pointless to own an electric bike if you can't get assist beyond 15-mph. You might as well get a really light carbon fiber frame bike and go faster.

Why couldn't they make it at least 20-mph? That would seem more reasonable.

 

[Chazmo]

That is expressly forbidden in the UK legislation, there can be no mechanism to increase the speed, even one only used offroad.
In reality it could be an app setting and ludicrously difficult to prove or stand up in court
Berm Peak addresses this in his Amflow video, you can change the speed settings yourself, the legality is actually a sticker on the frame.

Terrific analysis and fair. Very well-spoken guy!!!

I love that he pointed out the irony with DJI and self-imposed regulations on drones… It is what it is, and it will play out the way all personal liberties play out. I’ll have to find some way to get an Avinox-equipped fat-tire bike before I croak.

 

[kevinmccune]

I’m confused. My Vado 5 IGH is a Class 3 e-bike which means I have assistance up to 28 mph from the factory. Are you not located in the US?

Again "vados" got some new new "Vado" tablets that so far seem to do nothing( don't know if you can derestrict them or not) you can always do what Stefan does( with his super legs) burn through the restriction!( sorry couldn't resist no harm intended SM seems to be a very strong rider.)

 

[kevinmccune]

How about installing a switch that shuts the restrictor on and off as one is riding on private land or a public place where speed is restricted. I could set my RCS up like that on the display.
This leaves it up to the responsibility of the operator to follow the rules and regulations of the situation. We do that all the time with our automobiles. No governors on them. Why bicycles?

Its like Mr Potato head said[how about lets not] watch "Toy Story" if you want the rest of the quote"Entschuldigen Sie"!