Need opinions from Creo and Vado SL riders

[Allan47.7339]

I was a carbon skeptic before I got the carbon Creo SL Expert but I have been very happy with the ride comfort. I swapped the tires to the 42mm Pathfinders before delivery for ride comfort and occasional gravel.

This shows there are not any significant differences between the SL and EVO.

Creo SL vs. EVO breakdown

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[Stefan Mikes]

I was a carbon skeptic before I got the carbon Creo SL Expert but I have been very happy with the ride comfort. I swapped the tires to the 42mm Pathfinders before delivery for ride comfort and occasional gravel.

This shows there are not any significant differences between the SL and EVO.

Creo SL vs. EVO breakdown

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I only wonder where I would be storing my potential Creo

 

[kahn]

I was a carbon skeptic before I got the carbon Creo SL Expert but I have been very happy with the ride comfort. I swapped the tires to the 42mm Pathfinders before delivery for ride comfort and occasional gravel.

This shows there are not any significant differences between the SL and EVO.

Creo SL vs. EVO breakdown

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Okay, I give up. What does EVO stand for? Evolutionary? Evolved?

 

[kahn]

I only wonder where I would be storing my potential Creo

Pulley system from the ceiling.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Pulley system from the ceiling.

On 16 square metres flat? Recalculate to square feet yourself!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Okay, I give up. What does EVO stand for? Evolutionary? Evolved?

"Spesh use the Evo name for short stem, wide bars, longer travel fork than frame, for aggressive bikes. For example the stumpy Evo is slightly burlier (wheels, forks, tyres, dropper post) than a standard stumpy."

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Evolution:

 

[Prairie Dog]

I only wonder where I would be storing my potential Creo

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[Stefan Mikes]

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Art, I know you're trying to be helpful but I'm already missing space for my cycling clothes...

 

[ActionJackson]

Maybe Stefan should buy his girlfriend a Hermes handbag instead of yet another bicycle?! @Brix ??

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Maybe Stefan should buy his girlfriend a Hermes handbag instead of yet another bicycle?! @Brix ??

As far as I know @Brix, she would have said Hermes handbag were "not her style"

On our latest encounter, Brix got an expensive laptop instead of the handbag

 

[Prairie Dog]

Art, I know you're trying to be helpful but I'm already missing space for my cycling clothes...

Gotcha Stefan. I’ve thought of that too! Stow your Creo underneath the bed when your lady friend comes to visit!

 

[kahn]

Gotcha Stefan. I’ve thought of that too! Stow your Creo underneath the bed when your lady friend comes to visit!

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Each time I've gotten a new bike, I've almost felt that way.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Gotcha Stefan. I’ve thought of that too! Stow your Creo underneath the bed when your lady friend comes to visit!

A bed of that size got burned in the fire! I'm afraid my current one is not up to the size

Each time I've gotten a new bike, I've almost felt that way.

I was often keeping my e-bikes in the old living room, to be able to look at them on evenings That was the time I had three of them....

 

[Rider51]

Unfortunately the EVO moniker isn't as clearly defined as that video would have you believe. It may have back in 2015, but it does a lot less now. Put another way, what makes sense on the Stumpjumper translates well to this day, and does the Epic for the most part. Interpreting that to the Creo kind of makes sense, maybe, a little, in some ways. But interpreting it to the Diverge barely does. In fact, the Diverge EVO is almost a Sirrus-X EVO, more than a Diverge EVO. Unless one of course thinks of a Sirrus-X as an "EVO" version of the Sirrus.

Confused yet? I don't blame you.

 

[kahn]

Unfortunately the EVO moniker isn't as clearly defined as that video would have you believe. It may have back in 2015, but it does a lot less now. Put another way, what makes sense on the Stumpjumper translates well to this day, and does the Epic for the most part. Interpreting that to the Creo kind of makes sense, maybe, a little, in some ways. But interpreting it to the Diverge barely does. In fact, the Diverge EVO is almost a Sirrus-X EVO, more than a Diverge EVO. Unless one of course thinks of a Sirrus-X as an "EVO" version of the Sirrus.

Confused yet? I don't blame you.

Quoting myself from Post 63 above:

"Okay, I give up. What does EVO stand for? Evolutionary? Evolved?"

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Evolution.
For instance, Creo SL EVO has evolved from a road e-bike into a gravel one.

 

[mschwett]

i actually think it’s pretty simple - it’s more off-road-y. stumpy EVO has more travel. diverge evo has flat bars (like a MTB). creo evo has dropper, flared bars, different tires.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

i actually think it’s pretty simple - it’s more off-road-y. stumpy EVO has more travel. diverge evo has flat bars (like a MTB). creo evo has dropper, flared bars, different tires.

I think Kahn was asking for the very origin of the word "EVO" in the name itself.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Guys,
I assume Creo comes without the TCD mount. Right?
Or, does the Creo stem include the TCD mount?

 

[mschwett]

Guys,
I assume Creo comes without the TCD mount. Right?
Or, does the Creo stem include the TCD mount?

there is no TCD or TCD mount with any creo. TCU only (in the top tube) on the lower tier bikes, road blip remote buttons also for the higher tier ones.

road bike drop bars deserve to be clean and uncluttered !!!