What bike you will pick as a first e-mtb? Turbo Levo carbon comp 2025 vs Turbo levo 2025 vs Turbo levo SL comp 2025 with new genie shock

[Slayer2ez]

Hello guys! im 25 and live in hills area, i looking for a bike for activity out of home pc work for 10-12+ hours daily, i like bicycles rides and had a few bikes from my 16 age and did just commong rides of 20-70 km. after i tested emtb i think my expectations changed a lot, i really like it and like atm pretty cold near the 4-7 celsium day/evening emtb save so much power and give copmfort in colder time when need to climb or just go fast. there wheer i live 32 km/h for levo and 45 km/h for tero
So i planning to buy my first EMTB and here where i am only a few retailers (no official stores even) there are Specizliaed one, cube (but buy possible only in 2025) and Scott
I had a test drive of Tero 3.0 and it was quite fun and pretty long ride expecially with most of time trail/turbo mode and a lot of climbs.
I could buy just Tero 3.0 but i decided that full front and reat supression will be better to have more roads and fun so i decided to pay more and get Turbo levo
I understand that it very high price and probably for me as a just non professional guy who just ride and want to improve in that it probably too big buy for my needs, but from what i heard and since i have only a few good brands here specialized is probably a one who i can trust and be sure in bike i get, yes i pay more but i get very solid long time bike, right?And so the main question is a model to choose, i struggle to choose between:
new 2025 Levo turbo with alloy and marzochi bomber shocks which will cost me 6000$ with delivery: https://www.specialized.com/ca/en/turbo-levo/p/4277462?color=5441134-4277462
A more epxensive turbo levo 2025 comp Carbon with fox shocks and better mavis brakes + carbon frame for 7700$: https://www.specialized.com/ge/en/turbo-levo-comp-carbon/p/4274924?color=5430535-4274924
Or get an SL comp 2025 version with New Genie: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-levo-sl-comp/p/4221301?color=5401528-4221301

What you guys recommend is best value and smth good for my needs? i m still not sure i need turbo levo or SL version it hard to decide and i never tried SL or turbo levo, just got a ride on Tero 3.0 and few other emtb for little. If SL version is pretty powerful and can beat 50-60 km+ range or extender is pretty easy to use and good for make bigger range and this genie and other components are worth it probably i ll stack with SL. But if Turbo levo or Turbo levo carbon is way better money for quality and feels better and still do decent activity and increase my distance and how fast i can reach it probably that way is better and just need to choose to save 1700$ on allot or spend more and get carbon comp. I really need your experience and reocmmendations guys
All of these bikes ill need to wait until delivery for 1,5-2 months maybe a bit more, but i think i m ok with it it's winter anyway and i have a lot work to do

 

[Stefan Mikes]

there wheer i live 32 km/h for levo and 45 km/h for tero

Your location reads Europe. It is 25 km/h in the EU.

Before I could give you more answers please confirm you intend to ride almost 100% off-road, on technical mountain singletracks.

 

[Slayer2ez]

Your location reads Europe. It is 25 km/h in the EU.

Before I could give you more answers please confirm you intend to ride almost 100% off-road, on technical mountain singletracks.

Hello, no i m not in europe union and here people increase speed and police don't care, all ride like they want. i can say there more problem with drivers on roads and traffic jams because of people mistake than e bike speed, also e bike amount there not big and hard to buy e bike and have a good service of it.

Second question, i m new to this and earlier i had only pretty cheap mtb and cannondale bad boy which is not even close to mtb
But i m amused of videous how people drive on levos ot other emtb and i always like to go where i want without worry if i can go that way
As retailer told me levo is smth much better quality than vado or tero and gives a way to go any terrain. Its like jack of all trades, you just go where you want and it swill be ok and comfort
The difficult for me is to choose a good 2025 model worth and good quality for money And to go SL or non SL..
I can share my test drive experience of tero 3.0 i was going 2 uphil lways with it with 300+ meters of height and it was pretty good and i can say after it that i don't want to go same way on non motor mtb. On some places i feel like i want to have more power to go faster, and as i understood SL slightly more powered than tero 3.0 with 50 Nm same but 320 W over 250 tero, am i right?
And levo will be just 32km/hour and then i can go faster but by legs only right? and as i know on SL it much more comfort to go over 32 than on normal levo when you more feel motor need and weight
If SL is more power than tero 3.0 the only thing i worry that i can have a lack of distance on it, on Tero i used only trail/turbo modes, maybe because of my first ride and i was jealous how cool trail and turbo and this 45 km/h almost after 3 sec from place, but on eco and no motor it was so bad on tero, harder than just mtb probably. On SL in my expectations i hope 10% or eco will be pretty solid to just ride and still ahve fun without crazy efforts and up hill of course more power

That some more info, thank you for helping me and i appreciate any advices, because i m really new to emtb and mtb quite

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Please read me carefully because I will be very short:

• You will not be able to buy a 32 km/h or 45 km/h Specialized or Cube e-bike wherever in Europe, Union or outside. It is 25 km/h, full stop. 32 km/h e-bikes are only available in the U.S. and Canada, the 45 km/h e-bikes can only be bought in the United States or New Zealand. Yes you can illegally deactivate the 25 km/h speed restriction but then say good-bye to the warranty.
• If you do not intend riding 100% on mountain technical singletracks (100% off-road), a Levo or Levo SL is pointless to have and a waste of money. These e-bikes are MTB. They are perfect climbers but slow on the flat.
• Tero is good for both roads and off-road.
• Vado is for roads and mild off-road.
• SL e-bikes are for healthy and fit people.
• All SL e-bikes are weaker than non-SL (full power) e-bikes.

There is no point to say anything more unless you understand the basic principles.

P.S. The only 45 km/h Specialized e-bike available in Europe is Vado 6.0, and I think it is not produced anymore. By law, it is a moped that you have to pedal anyway.

Specialized Turbo Vado 6.0 (2018-2021).

 

[Slayer2ez]

Please read me carefully because I will be very short:

• You will not be able to buy a 32 km/h or 45 km/h Specialized or Cube e-bike wherever in Europe, Union or outside. It is 25 km/h, full stop. 32 km/h e-bikes are only available in the U.S. and Canada, the 45 km/h e-bikes can only be bought in the United States or New Zealand. Yes you can illegally deactivate the 25 km/h speed restriction but then say good-bye to the warranty.
• If you do not intend riding 100% on mountain technical singletracks (100% off-road), a Levo or Levo SL is pointless to have and a waste of money. These e-bikes are MTB. They are perfect climbers but slow on the flat.
• Tero is good for both roads and off-road.
• Vado is for roads and mild off-road.
• SL e-bikes are for healthy and fit people.
• All SL e-bikes are weaker than non-SL (full power) e-bikes.

There is no point to say anything more unless you understand the basic principles.

P.S. The only 45 km/h Specialized e-bike available in Europe is Vado 6.0, and I think it is not produced anymore. By law, it is a moped that you have to pedal anyway.

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Specialized Turbo Vado 6.0 (2018-2021).

Ty for the reply, i not sure how but here people just set american software and it's no problem of laws to use it like that. They no offer to brake warranty for unlock speed but just to use USA speed regulations
About trails, i understand and probably just a tero will fit me better but if i want to ride more ways and try new Levo will be end game one for all am i right? That why i think i need Levo more if i want to have a one bike and do all with it. There not so many bike roads or safe ways, so it better to go trail than to ride a road. Of course if need to go from 1 place to another in city it works but i want to increase my ways amount and later take a bike with me for some nature rides too
Tero sadly i can get only 3.0 or 5.0 eq and 5.0 eq is close to levo starting price, levo turbo 2025 with alloy case cost 1000$ more than tero 5.0 eq, but it has rear shock, less weight, and much more functional for different roads

I m pretty fit and like activity, but i expect to get a nice help from emtb to have more distance, more joy and don't have pain and sweat on every uphill (there a lot height of +300-400 meters to get good spots and trails) but also i plan to burn some calories with bike and stay ~75 kg weight with my 179 height, atm i m near 86. But yes i m worry that SL can dissapoint me and make my ways shorter and joy of such an expensive bike less
But as i understood SL 1.2 motor have more power and help more than Tero 3.0, they both same 50 Nm and sl even have 320 wt power on peak, am i right aboput that or it's misstake and SL way less power full?
Also a question about SL, is that comfort to ride with eco/10% on different surface or little uphill? because when i tried to do that on tero it feels pretty boring, even eco was not so comfort and off motor is crazy dead. If SL feel way better on eco and below it's probably great choice for me
And what about components and value of models of 2025 line, which levo is best built money for quality for long use you think? Is SL comp with new genie and e switcher with fox x and sox rhythm and Maven Bronze looks a very good deal for 8000$? Or should i better buy turbo levo 2025 and save ~2000$ and stay with allot on Marzocchi Bomber
I m also a bit worry that in close future will be new gen or some e bikes which will make the market change significally, like that amflow with high Nm long range and low weight. WHat you think about that?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Ty for the reply, i not sure how but here people just set american software and it's no problem of laws to use it like that. They no offer to brake warranty for unlock speed but just to use USA speed regulations

It is not possible. The only way is to derestrict the e-bike with a mechanical or electronic device.

WHat you think about that?

I think you know nothing of bikes in general and e-bikes in particular.

Have you ever ridden a mechanical (traditional) mountain bike (MTB)?

 

[Slayer2ez]

I had earlier 2 bikes, pretty cheap mtb with hydraulic front shock and ride on it probably few thousands km
And i had more road option of Cannondale bad boy 1 2021 and just ride it on roads
Now i want to be more flexible and get some power of emtb to increase my range and joy from rides, start to do some trails without worry of dmg bike or to always avoid some natural ground roads
And i m looking for a model to get once and have enjoy for year+ i really worry to buy smth i will want to upgrade in 1 year already, it how i see tero 3.0 or vado, its good bikes i m sure but when it comes to more ways and trails i think it better to buy smth more flexible now
Btw i found that SL motor work 320 and tero 3.0 400+ so i think SL will be not my option because there where i go on hill ride it's 300-400 meters up and on tero 3.0 i felt like i need some more help than trail/turbo offer me
SL will be great for more practice but still need a lot efforts of driver and being more professional than i m atmSo i think i ll stack with Turbo levo 2025 or Turbo levo comp carbon
What one looks better for price and future upgrades? 6000 $ vs 7700$
Also the range and flexibility on Turbo version will be 100% bigger than SL, yes if i will ride eco mode all time and buy extender i will be close to get same what i get from turbo levo
But with turbo levo i getting it all in one right? and the only thing that i can't add extra battery but it pretty solid anyway
What is you thoughts about? any pros for SL version for me or you also think i need to stack with more power?
With extender SL will be already 20+ kg as i know extender + 1 kg or i will keep it in backpack anyway

 

[Stefan Mikes]

@Slayer2ez: Here are some answers.

Do not go for Tero 3.0. It has a relatively weak motor as for a heavy e-bike; it also has a smaller 530 Wh battery; a waste of money I'd say. Your best buy would be a Tero 5.0 if you can buy it: excellent equipment, very strong motor (565 W), a big battery (710 Wh). Tero is made to ride both off-road and on road. Important: it is pretty fast on-road because it has a proper gearing for that purpose.

However, I can see you absolutely want to have an e-MTB. Some remarks here.

• You would be delighted with the full power Levo made of alloy. It has a very strong motor and a big battery, and it is just a joy to ride in the mountains. Yes, it is a little bit heavy but still not very heavy. Bear in mind the Levo motor can pump up to 565 W of peak power, and the 700 Wh battery is very well matched to the power demand.
• You would probably be disappointed with a Levo SL. True, it has a new SL 1.2 320 W motor and it is lightweight. You would soon discover how slow that e-bike actually is on the flat, and how small the internal battery is, even with a Range Extender. The slow speed is the outcome of the mountain gearing and small motor power.
• Avoid carbon. I know it is fashionable, and it reduces the e-bike weight approximately by 1 kg but the carbon fibre is brittle. While it is highly improbable to break an alloy (aluminium) frame, it happens a wrongly hit carbon frame cracks. What would you do then?
• Specialized e-MTBs are at such a high quality, components and equipment you will not need to upgrade them.
• e-MTBs with their aggressive tyres are so noisy/loud on paved surfaces, you would suffer when riding on asphalt

Hope that helps.

 

[Slayer2ez]

@Slayer2ez: Here are some answers.

Do not go for Tero 3.0. It has a relatively weak motor as for a heavy e-bike; it also has a smaller 530 Wh battery; a waste of money I'd say. Your best buy would be a Tero 5.0 if you can buy it: excellent equipment, very strong motor (565 W), a big battery (710 Wh). Tero is made to ride both off-road and on road. Important: it is pretty fast on-road because it has a proper gearing for that purpose.

However, I can see you absolutely want to have an e-MTB. Some remarks here.

• You would be delighted with the full power Levo made of alloy. It has a very strong motor and a big battery, and it is just a joy to ride in the mountains. Yes, it is a little bit heavy but still not very heavy. Bear in mind the Levo motor can pump up to 565 W of peak power, and the 700 Wh battery is very well matched to the power demand.
• You would probably be disappointed with a Levo SL. True, it has a new SL 1.2 320 W motor and it is lightweight. You would soon discover how slow that e-bike actually is on the flat, and how small the internal battery is, even with a Range Extender. The slow speed is the outcome of the mountain gearing and small motor power.
• Avoid carbon. I know it is fashionable, and it reduces the e-bike weight approximately by 1 kg but the carbon fibre is brittle. While it is highly improbable to break an alloy (aluminium) frame, it happens a wrongly hit carbon frame cracks. What would you do then?
• Specialized e-MTBs are at such a high quality, components and equipment you will not need to upgrade them.
• e-MTBs with their aggressive tyres are so noisy/loud on paved surfaces, you would suffer when riding on asphalt

Hope that helps.

Of course it will help! i m so thankful for that reply, you and few guys on reddit told me same about SL, that this bike is cool for someone who no need motor and just need have extra help being already very well with speed and difficults of normal mtb and make a joy of it
But for me as a begginer in trails and a person who probably will be bored of long climb uphill or use SL motor too much power and then worry about energy with lack of battery even with extender its not good idea
The only things i no asked about SL, is new Genie which is provided in comp 2025 model and Electronic Shifting, are that something i need and will feel comfort or that just a features but not a game changer and just more powerful motor with components of Turbo Levo 2025 is well done already?

And i got you about Tero 5.0 EQ, its pretty cool choice for road and very light trails, it fast and can be 45 km/hour here + it has equipment on it already, probably it smth like a compact car, which i can use for go some place but something like a baggage on it and go easy. I also want to go some places to ride with my dog, probably i can seat dog on tero 5.0 eq, but i not sure it's good idea
In case of Levo i can take any road and way much more flexible than tero 5.0 eq right?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Genie is for experts. Electronic shifting is a nice thing but not a must. Neither of these features will make you a better cyclist

The full power Levo is the Specialized flagship and it is greatly developed. One of the best electric mountain bikes to have.

Now. While Tero 5.0 is equipped and you can do many things you expect from a normal bicycle, Levo is purely a sports e-bike. You can still install temporary mudguards (bought separately from brands such as SKS Germany). Installing a rear rack is not easy and not expected. Forget about the kickstand. Any lighting must be external etc. Still, Levo is the best "as is".

 

[Slayer2ez]

Genie is for experts. Electronic shifting is a nice thing but not a must. Neither of these features will make you a better cyclist

The full power Levo is the Specialized flagship and it is greatly developed. One of the best electric mountain bikes to have.

Now. While Tero 5.0 is equipped and you can do many things you expect from a normal bicycle, Levo is purely a sports e-bike. You can still install temporary mudguards (bought separately from brands such as SKS Germany). Installing a rear rack is not easy and not expected. Forget about the kickstand. Any lighting must be external etc. Still, Levo is the best "as is".

yes, it s a bit hard to decide but i think i ll take levo just for more sport orienty because with levo i can do all i need or dream to do with bike, and with tero 5.0 i still have some resrictions to no go or be careful on some ways/hard tarrain/accedental jump on smth
So between Levo from 2025 you recommend exactly Levo turbo with alloy frame Marzocchi bomber and it must same mastermind the only big difference with comp corbon i suppose is Marzocchi into Fox X and carbon frame, but alloy even more reliable in case of some accedental dmg right? + i ll save 1700$ on that buy it a lot to just keep for future or do some upgrades later ( in terms opf 2025 line vs previous i think new ones is way go to buy rn since price not big different from 2024/2023 and many improves like rockshock to Marzocchi and pro mastermind now in frame on all models am i right?)

I probably can have a look on Turbo Tero 4.0 Step-Through EQ or Tero 5.0 EQ to get higher speed up to 45 km/h, save a lot money if i take 4.0 and have reliable big batery, but i need to forget about some trail roads with tero right? I probably can take Tero 4.0 eq for my wife, together we will 100% be less speed, more calm ride and safetier roads
But are tero still able to go most of normal trails and climbs?

 

[carl06]

The tires that come standard on the Levo will cause a lot of drag when ridden on pavement. They will also wear out quickly riding them on pavement. If I was going to use a Levo for both mountain biking and for pavement/mild offroad. I would buy a second wheelset and mount general purpose tires on the second set. This will also help your battery range when you are not mountain biking.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

alloy even more reliable in case of some accedental dmg right?

Alloy is a way more reliable. In case of the carbon frame it sometimes takes a single piece of rock shooting from under your wheel, hit the frame and there is a damage. Just saying.

A single pebble hit this CF fork, and not only the paint fell off but also the carbon fiber got 'dissected'.

mastermind now in frame on all model

Yes, the Mastermind TCU display/computer is on all Levo models now.

I probably can have a look on Turbo Tero 4.0 Step-Through EQ or Tero 5.0 EQ to get higher speed up to 45 km/h

Forget the 45 km/h. Even if you can have your e-bike derestricted in your country:

• The mountain gearing will make it impossible to pedal that fast (cadence). You would spin out well before 45 km/h.
• The air drag will limit you at some 40 km/h even with the max assistance.
• Of course you may ride even 70 km/h downhill if you can but it is not assisted by the motor, just the gravity, no pedalling.
• As @carl06 said, the other speed limiting factor are aggressive off-road tyres that induce a lot of a rolling resistance.

, save a lot money if i take 4.0 and have reliable big batery, but i need to forget about some trail roads with tero right?

Do you know what a "technical singletrack" is? It is a narrow path winding among the trees, with climbs on rocks and tree roots at a very slow speed, and downhill riding on the rocks, and often 2 m high jumps at a crazy speed. It is the home for Levo. Tero might not be able to do that.

But are tero still able to go most of normal trails and climbs?

Yes, of course.

 

[Slayer2ez]

The tires that come standard on the Levo will cause a lot of drag when ridden on pavement. They will also wear out quickly riding them on pavement. If I was going to use a Levo for both mountain biking and for pavement/mild offroad. I would buy a second wheelset and mount general purpose tires on the second set. This will also help your battery range when you are not mountain biking.

Thank you! i will have a look on tires for road, it really useful comment because some on my routes 100% will be with a lot road part and only then starting with terrain

Alloy is a way more reliable. In case of the carbon frame it sometimes takes a single piece of rock shooting from under your wheel, hit the frame and there is a damage. Just saying.

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A single pebble hit this CF fork, and not only the paint fell off but also the carbon fiber got 'dissected'.


Yes, the Mastermind TCU display/computer is on all Levo models now.


Forget the 45 km/h. Even if you can have your e-bike derestricted in your country:

• The mountain gearing will make it impossible to pedal that fast (cadence). You would spin out well before 45 km/h.
• The air drag will limit you at some 40 km/h even with the max assistance.
• Of course you may ride even 70 km/h downhill if you can but it is not assisted by the motor, just the gravity, no pedalling.
• As @carl06 said, the other speed limiting factor are aggressive off-road tyres that induce a lot of a rolling resistance.

Do you know what a "technical singletrack" is? It is a narrow path winding among the trees, with climbs on rocks and tree roots at a very slow speed, and downhill riding on the rocks, and often 2 m high jumps at a crazy speed. It is the home for Levo. Tero might not be able to do that.


Yes, of course.

Thank you for reply! So to sumamry all i understand and came to:
if i will pick Levo as you know me and my goals now Turbo levo 2025 (not comp just turbo levo basic) will be better to pick and save 1700$ instead of take Turbo Levo comp Carbon. There nothing important for me in Carbon comp, Fox X and FOx rhhytm better than Marzocchi probably but not big difference it's all same family just cheaper a bit. And alloy has ~+1.4 kg but that not significant with such motor and more reliable for any frame upgrades/battery extenders from after market and etc than the carbon. All that better feel of road and terrain on carbon and easily manaverve not significant for my situation right?

So the only question i have now: if i will be going to use Turbo levo Alloy 2025 or carbon comp on asphault, for example 35 km to go asphault then have some trail ride for ~20 km and then back 35 km way down it will be not so good for levo and a guy told me to have extra kit of tires for road, is he right? Or Levo is fine for mix asphault ride on a way to trail?
After that info, i thought probably idea to get Tero 5.0 EQ or Tero 4.0 Step-through EQ which fit well better for asphault, can ride longer distance on road and be able to let me ride trail and come back home with road ride
But the way that if i will want to ride special trails do some jumps and have an option to ride "Everywhere" a bit saying me to get Levo

I don't have a car here yet. So an idea to take a bike on car travel to some place and then use bike for exactly trails is not working for close future, probably i ll buy soon a car which can handle my and my wife bikes, i think it will improve it so much and will add tons of trails. Probably i ll get car license and some car in next 3-6 months i anyway need it for most of my things, but usually i use taxi and working from home, that why i have no car yet. SO a car is only extra comfort to go where i want, go nature, like ride on bike, some cool places to go with dog and just be able to move for needs in city and easy place all in car
What is your thoughts about? also is there no problem to take 2 emtb on 1 normal car (not big/open back car)?

 

[Prairie Dog]

Thank you! i will have a look on tires for road, it really useful comment because some on my routes 100% will be with a lot road part and only then starting with terrain

Thank you for reply! So to sumamry all i understand and came to:
if i will pick Levo as you know me and my goals now Turbo levo 2025 (not comp just turbo levo basic) will be better to pick and save 1700$ instead of take Turbo Levo comp Carbon. There nothing important for me in Carbon comp, Fox X and FOx rhhytm better than Marzocchi probably but not big difference it's all same family just cheaper a bit. And alloy has ~+1.4 kg but that not significant with such motor and more reliable for any frame upgrades/battery extenders from after market and etc than the carbon. All that better feel of road and terrain on carbon and easily manaverve not significant for my situation right?

So the only question i have now: if i will be going to use Turbo levo Alloy 2025 or carbon comp on asphault, for example 35 km to go asphault then have some trail ride for ~20 km and then back 35 km way down it will be not so good for levo and a guy told me to have extra kit of tires for road, is he right? Or Levo is fine for mix asphault ride on a way to trail?
After that info, i thought probably idea to get Tero 5.0 EQ or Tero 4.0 Step-through EQ which fit well better for asphault, can ride longer distance on road and be able to let me ride trail and come back home with road ride
But the way that if i will want to ride special trails do some jumps and have an option to ride "Everywhere" a bit saying me to get Levo

I don't have a car here yet. So an idea to take a bike on car travel to some place and then use bike for exactly trails is not working for close future, probably i ll buy soon a car which can handle my and my wife bikes, i think it will improve it so much and will add tons of trails. Probably i ll get car license and some car in next 3-6 months i anyway need it for most of my things, but usually i use taxi and working from home, that why i have no car yet. SO a car is only extra comfort to go where i want, go nature, like ride on bike, some cool places to go with dog and just be able to move for needs in city and easy place all in car
What is your thoughts about? also is there no problem to take 2 emtb on 1 normal car (not big/open back car)?

You might want to think twice about acquiring a Levo. Unless you plan on doing some serious trail riding, I would take Stefan’s advice, save your $$ and stick with the Tero 5. I’ve heard this before where guys take a Tero or Vado out for a test ride and then think that they might be better off with a full blown emtb in the event that they would need it on the odd occasion where the terrain becomes a bit more challenging. Take it from me, unless you consistently ride blue or diamond rated singletrack or live in an area where those types of opportunities exist, the outcome would be fairly obvious that you won’t be taking full advantage of the Levo’s capabilities. Riding on tarmac is doable but that’s not what a FS emtb is setup to do in the first place.

 

[Slayer2ez]

You might want to think twice about acquiring a Levo. Unless you plan on doing some serious trail riding, I would take Stefan’s advice, save your $$ and stick with the Tero 5. I’ve heard this before where guys take a Tero or Vado out for a test ride and then think that they might be better off with a full blown emtb in the event that they would need it on the odd occasion where the terrain becomes a bit more challenging. Take it from me, unless you consistently ride blue or diamond rated singletrack or live in an area where those types of opportunities exist, the outcome would be fairly obvious that you won’t be taking full advantage of the Levo’s capabilities. Riding on tarmac is doable but that’s not what a FS emtb is setup to do in the first place.

Yes i worry about that too, i will 100% will still do some common rides near parks or bike roads or just go to visit some place during the day and if Levo is not suited for it and better to avoid maybe tero is better choice
Sadly i no save a lot with Tero 5.0 EQ, it's ~5000$ and Levo turbo 2025 with just alloy frame and morzocchi bomber is ~6000$. If i had some experience of real trail roads which suited for levo i could say if i need it more or will do often, but i have no experience yet
But on other hand with Tero i will be locked to not go some things i could do with levo, it also worry me to spend that high amount and be able to do only a part of what i probably will want
Many people here told me that they started with Hard tail bikes and then after year of ride all switching to Trail, and recommended me go with levo to be able for all

Am i will be really not good to ride levo on common bike roads in combination with some terrain/dirt like 70-30% probably?

 

[Slayer2ez]

You might want to think twice about acquiring a Levo. Unless you plan on doing some serious trail riding, I would take Stefan’s advice, save your $$ and stick with the Tero 5. I’ve heard this before where guys take a Tero or Vado out for a test ride and then think that they might be better off with a full blown emtb in the event that they would need it on the odd occasion where the terrain becomes a bit more challenging. Take it from me, unless you consistently ride blue or diamond rated singletrack or live in an area where those types of opportunities exist, the outcome would be fairly obvious that you won’t be taking full advantage of the Levo’s capabilities. Riding on tarmac is doable but that’s not what a FS emtb is setup to do in the first place.

By the way many roads here is like this:
Also there a lot up hill ways with such road and different combinations
There not smth like clear polished europe city roads, but some roads well done and taking care
You also can see uphill degrees, there different hills from lower to even bigger degree
And i need a bike to comfortly go on it too

 

[Slayer2ez]

Example of trails near me i found, i think there significant amount of ways i can go so probably a bike that will be able to go some road and a trail will be best, should i stay with Levo or look on Hard Tail Tero 5.0 eq?
BTW a video of some local trails shocase:

I think i really like it, is levo turbo fit this ways good?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

@Slayer2ez: After you have presented yourself more clearly (Georgia/Gruzja), I absolutely understand why you need a Levo. Select a proper size for you and never look back! (Tero 5.0 would be still good for road and mild trails).

Now, you have probably misunderstood the user who was saying about the double wheel-set. He meant you could use one set for roads only and another for off-road trails only. He didn't mean both sets would be used for the same ride!

Many mountain bikers just transport their e-MTBs to the beginning of the trail by car. However, you own no car, so you will need to ride the Levo on roads to the trails. No other choice!

We know a little about the Georgian specifics (yes, it is a montane country!), and especially we know nothing about the e-bike reality there. Do you know what country the Specialized e-bikes are imported from to Georgia?

 

[Slayer2ez]

@Slayer2ez: After you have presented yourself more clearly (Georgia/Gruzja), I absolutely understand why you need a Levo. Select a proper size for you and never look back! (Tero 5.0 would be still good for road and mild trails).

Now, you have probably misunderstood the user who was saying about the double wheel-set. He meant you could use one set for roads only and another for off-road trails only. He didn't mean both sets would be used for the same ride!

Many mountain bikers just transport their e-MTBs to the beginning of the trail by car. However, you own no car, so you will need to ride the Levo on roads to the trails. No other choice!

We know a little about the Georgian specifics (yes, it is a montane country!), and especially we know nothing about the e-bike reality there. Do you know what country the Specialized e-bikes are imported from to Georgia?

Thank you! yes i think i have to choose Levo because so many ways to go trail and very good weather conditions for it and nature
As i think if i will need some bike for bike road/parks/road chill i ll take some gravel from hands

I will still need to buy one more bike for my wife later but it will be much budget version and if i will agree with her, i not sure if she will ride distances like me or some extreme trails. But i m up for give it all a beggining and i m in a good place to start it i think
It probably will be some little problem for Levo on roads but i suppose if i will use it not like 50 km on road and few times per week repeat it will be fine + there a lot of hard roads like i shared on screenshot i m sure levo will fit it like a mountain rocks and make climbs easy. I hope that not a big problem to change tires or have extra set for more road way and i ll try to get car license and purchase a car in 2025 to take bikes to some cool ride places easy on it.
About specialized i found there a shop who offer Ghost and specialized retail, and they can order new 2025 line for me, also they have some Tero/vado Tero x4.0 in stock but not expensive new models. It's really difficult to find here a shop with brands emtb or to buy emtb and deliver it with battery from Europe or USA i think almost impossible + you need to pay 18% VAT on whole price + delivery. Closest countries Turkey and Russia, in Russia very bad situation with all import and Turkey idk, i didn't notice any ways to import from it
So i had a luck to find Specialized retailer shop Bikes.ge here and there pretty cool people who helping me to get a dream bike for me. I saw there also a groups who make tours for people to go some places and rent a bike or take your own also a guys from shop doing that too.

Btw i still struggle between Turbo levo comp Carbon vs Turbo levo with just alloy, for what you see on video i will be totally fine with just Turbo levo on alloy frame and components it has, right?
And SL comp carbon with 19.1 kg is totally not good choice? Any ways to go up to this mountains will be disaster for me as a non professional not very well prepared for it. And i suppose energy drain on SL will be very high on all ways up, it's will be easy to lose half of energy and ill always will need to keep 1-2 extenders which is +2 kg and extra ~1000$