No idea if it can see the RE. I don't own a bike computer myself. As I said, several people have recommended/reviewed the Coospo recently. So thought I'd mention it for EBR readers as an alternative to Wahoo/Garmin & supply one owner/Youtuber's review who no doubt has tested it fairly well. He rides an Orbea gain, so I was aware he had an ebike not an ordinary bike. He gives a good honest review.
Yes the Shimano interface sucks. No elevation either and very clunky with the two apps instead of a combined single app like Spesh. Plus turning on the app you have to have the bike power off, then on, or visa versa always forget which. Interesting that Garmin gives accurate battery, thats useful.
How do you determine the speed of your Vado SL? Do you have a Mastermind TCU? Or, do you use the TCD?
That info was all stored in Mission Control and I assume the new Spesh app; distance, max speed, map, elevation and so on so I didn't need a bike computer and yes I like occasionally looking back at rides and comparing to recent ones. But I just don't have much need while I'm out riding. As long as I remember to hit start on the Spesh app or Spesh Ride etc so info is there when I get home. Don't think Spesh stores battery use per ride? So yeah that would be handy to have.
Is "3s power" rider power averaged over the last 3 seconds?
Dave, it looks your leg input "includes zeroes" in the stats. Perhaps there is a way in Garmin system to set it to not include the time you are coasting? (Just a guess). My 540 gave me my leg power of order of 78 W, which is similar to Wahoo! (Similar values on Trance E+ and Vado SL).
Yes it is. It is probably the same value you are getting on your Mastermind. (I hope Stompandgo will come with a practical information). If it comes to me, it is the most practical parameter I can choose from the available ones for power both in Wahoo and Garmin.
For one, Mahle x35 and x20 have no ANT+ (no hub drive has). I could see him installing a cadence meter on his crankarm, a step in the right direction. Now, Garmin 130+ is a low priced option for a traditional cyclist. I'm even not sure whether it handles the e-bike part of the business!
3s power is indeed averaged over 3 seconds, every 3 seconds. Instantaneous power (usually every 0.1 second or less) is mainly relevant to racers when training or racing events where peak power is a measure of training results and will help set training goals for the future. A good example would be a sprinter who wants to know their "jump power", or the first 1/4 stroke to start the sprint. It may only be able to be held for a fraction of a second, but it can win races, and you can train for it, mainly with weights. 3s power is important for sustained efforts measured in seconds or minutes. Beyond that, the gold standard for rider power is FTP, or Functional Threshold Power. The time metric for FTP is 60 minutes.
(A beta-blocker controls your heart rate).
Thanks, very helpful. And what do you actually do with that 3s power data while riding?
As seen by the latest (black-icon) Specialized app, today's lazy neighborhood ride with wife on my SL 1 5.0 with Mastermind TCU...
Well you can, when associated with your power and RPE. You may never hit your maximum heart rate because of the drug, but you should hit some "ceiling level" when your effort becomes a little uncomfortable. You may hit that point every time you ride, and it may never increase with fitness, but it's still there if you choose to use it.Thank you @stompandgo!
For me, HR cannot be used as I am on a Beta-blocker medication if you know what I mean
Again, it's one metric out of three that tell me how I am doing at any given moment. When I was training and racing 6 days/week, it was very important. If I was supposed to stay in zone 2, that correlates to an average power number that I had to stay under. If I was doing interval training, 3s power would tell me if my 200% (2x FTP) intervals were at 200%.
