Turbo Vado 2 4.0 or 5.0 or 6.0?

[Jeremy McCreary]

just speculating. i bet it's more complicated than we think and also has something to do with how the motor and pedals are "connected"

No question it's more complicated than we think — especially around accelerations and other special situations like starting out and passing through max assisted speed. Maybe even around gear or assist mode changes.

Cadence by itself would likely come into play in these cases, but not necessarily in steady-state riding above 60 rpm.

My goal all along was just to model Pm as a function of Pr in steady-state riding. But even that's looking way more complicated now than Spec documentation ever let on.

Need to step back and rethink the whole reverse engineering project. The way forward — if there is one — probably lies in the .FIT files. But their low signal-to-noise is gonna be a big challenge.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

In the specialized app. The "rides" tab.

Very familiar with that. But @mschwett is talking about something online.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Very familiar with that. But @mschwett is talking about something online.

Yes, his link leads to Specialized Ride online service.
Yes, the site collects your rides that used either Mission Control or the Specialized app.

I'm surprised though. I had a ride in Ireland on a Bosch E-Bike but that ride is among my activities on the Ride! A mystery.

How come?! Was that ride somehow imported from my older Wahoo?!

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

Yes, his link leads to Specialized Ride online service.
Yes, the site collects your rides that used either Mission Control or the Specialized app.

The only link I saw just took me to the regular Specialized site. Couldn't find a path from there to what you're describing. Did you try the link yourself?

ADDENDUM: Correct link to separate Ride site below. I think forum software added the link we were discussing.

Specialized

ride.specialized.com

Not seeing anything that the current Specialized app doesn't do better.

 

[mschwett]

The only link I saw just took me to the regular Specialized site. Couldn't find a path from there to what you're describing. Did you try the link yourself?

ADDENDUM: Correct link to separate Ride site below. I think forum software added the link we were discussing.

Specialized

ride.specialized.com

Not seeing anything that the current Specialized app doesn't do better.

i haven’t tried exporting a .fit file from the ride app, but the ones made by the website have all the data you need in them! click on the ride, click the three dots at the top left i think?

the chart can also display whatever combo of data you want, at a decent scale, unlike the phone app!

 

[mcdenny]

I just found how to use a FIT file viewer download .fit data. I had recorded a few rides on my Como last year so I had something to play with.

The .fit file records all the data we care about (and more) once each second. The 45 minute ride I downloaded had 2600 lines!

I’m envisioning many very short rides with a real effort to keep rider power constant. The resulting .fit files might look less noisy. Also with the data in a spreadsheet you can eliminate all the zero rider power troughs. I am itching to get my new bike and do some experimenting.