To the "Karens", and the "Carls" out there😂 Those riding dirty too.

I guess advertising "made in Poland" is like advertising what I made with the kielbasa.
It might feel insulting to you as an American but the world renowned bike drivetrain manufacturer Garbaruk is an Ukrainian company producing in Poland. You pay US$250 or more for the Garbaruk cassette which is far more superior than Shimano or SRAM are. Besides... where does the American company SRAM make their drivetrains? In China, perhaps? :)

What is worrying me is Bafang is manufactured in Wrocław Poland for the EU market.
 
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I made with the kielbasa
Actually it was made from a closely related sausage family from from another European country that Elvis's mom then adapted to deep fry in grease to make the Southern Fried version of a classic Avalon Island 'abalone' sandwich.

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"Karens", and " Carls":

A decent E-Bike is gonna cost around $1,000.
Dude, I hate to break it to you but there are brakes out there that are over $1000 for a pair. I have to admit they look cool, but I don't know if the look cool enough to be worth that price:


Makes these beauties seem almost affordable (probably the very best mechanical disk brakes you can buy):


 
Make Baloney Great Again.

Two blocks North is White Industries in Petaluma, CA. Good wheels can set you back two-grand. This stuff is like fine jewelry and is meant to last. The people who really know appreciate it and are willing to wait in line for it. It is not 2-buck Chuck. The good stuff is worth it. But it is not for everyone. Some are good with the cheap stuff and that is okay too.
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Dude, I hate to break it to you but there are brakes out there that are over $1000 for a pair. I have to admit they look cool, but I don't know if the look cool enough to be worth that price:


Makes these beauties seem almost affordable (probably the very best mechanical disk brakes you can buy):


They better come with a high class hooker for that price.
 
I called at my friend's last night, he's just dropped a thousand pounds on the larger battery for his specialised.
All beause on of the group has bought one and he doesn't want to be left behind by not being able to run a higher mode on the local trail.
 
It might feel insulting to you as an American but the world renowned bike drivetrain manufacturer Garbaruk is an Ukrainian company producing in Poland. You pay US$250 or more for the Garbaruk cassette which is far more superior than Shimano or SRAM are. Besides... where does the American company SRAM make their drivetrains? In China, perhaps? :)

What is worrying me is Bafang is manufactured in Wrocław Poland for the EU market.

In that case - I've got a polish part on my specialized!

Awesome cassette - an absolute work of art, machined to perfection, ultralight and so far lasting better than the "american "sram boat anchor it replaced - it it saved a LOT of unsprung weight ! ( about 400 gms!)
 
I own a handmade in Poland bike. It is a Crème. The only place that sells them in North America has one location in Montreal and another in Vancouver. They want $900 C for a basic three speed with a coaster brake. I made mine electric. Actually this is my second one. It now has gravel tires and it is a blast to take off road.
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Classy looking bike. It's got the vintage vibes going on🙂
 
In that case - I've got a polish part on my specialized!

Awesome cassette - an absolute work of art, machined to perfection, ultralight and so far lasting better than the "american "sram boat anchor it replaced - it it saved a LOT of unsprung weight ! ( about 400 gms!)
Actually, these guys are Ukrainian 🇺🇦. They established the manufacturing in Poland to be inside the EU market, and as it turned out later it has saved them from the war.

Mr Garbaruk senior has gained enormous knowledge in metallurgy while his son is an apt businessman.

The Garbaruk plant is located in Cracow Nowa Huta, nearby big steelworks.
 
Actually it was made from a closely related sausage family from from another European country that Elvis's mom then adapted to deep fry in grease to make the Southern Fried version of a classic Avalon Island 'abalone' sandwich.

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I miss Abalone. Back in the day, there was a restaurant in Ensenada BC Mexico that made the best. Maybe the best seafood dish ever. They went away. Not sure if I have had Abalone since...
 
Make Baloney Great Again.

Two blocks North is White Industries in Petaluma, CA. Good wheels can set you back two-grand. This stuff is like fine jewelry and is meant to last. The people who really know appreciate it and are willing to wait in line for it. It is not 2-buck Chuck. The good stuff is worth it. But it is not for everyone. Some are good with the cheap stuff and that is okay too.
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I noticed that you don't have these on the Mary Poppins Express.
As you say... they are not for everyone. I'd argue that they are for the few that compete professionally and those with more money then mental ability as the average bike owner would never come close to actually appreciating any difference.
Two buck Chuck is like having to roll your bicycle backwards each time you start it or removing the speed sensor to get it to operate properly.... and that's OK too 👍
 
Bicycles are in town transportation for me. I have access to things that excite me far more than bikes of any kind that I'd rather spend money. Chainsaws being one of them. I can also get an Arsenal AK, and 1,000rds of ammo for under $3,000. Ditto for a Benelli M4 shotgun.
You are free to own and ride a cheap ebike. It sounds like it suits your purpose.

Others, including myself have purposes that require greater range, better handling, lighter weight, good brakes, a good range of gears, decent build quality and basically a better bike.

It seems that you are looking at e-bikes through a narrow lens.

An AK with 1000 rounds is something that is of no value to most, but seems worthwhile to you. But if that is what you feel you need, scary as that is with your handle being @PsychoBilly, then you probably understand the downside of trying to achieve the same goal on a $1000 budget. For my needs, $1 would be too much.
 
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They want $900 C for a basic three speed with a coaster brake.
I went to the Creme site because I thought you meant it had only a coaster brake, like most American bikes from the time the population accepted brakes (maybe 1915) until 10-speeds took over (maybe 1970). I had a classmate who sometimes rode his bike to school, and that involved a 1400 foot descent. Fortunately, his bike was made by Huffy, the maverick company that was, under the Dayton name, behind the Wright Brothers. It had rim brakes.
 
You are free to own and ride a cheap ebike. It sounds like it suits your purpose.

Others, including myself have purposes that require greater range, better handling, lighter weight, good brakes, a good range of gears, decent build quality and basically a better bike.

It seems that you are looking at e-bikes through a narrow lens.

An AK with 1000 rounds is something that is of no value to most, but seems worthwhile to you. But if that is what you feel you need, scary as that is with your handle being @PsychoBilly, then you probably understand the downside of trying to achieve the same goal on a $1000 budget. For my needs, $1 would be too much.
I have numerous Pews. In this day, and age such things are in high demand. Not believing you should be prepared is on you.

It's the Internet, Bro. I clown on the Internet . Don't get so hung up on fun usernames.

My bike wasn't $1,000. It's $2,000.
 
I have numerous Pews. In this day, and age such things are in high demand. Not believing you should be prepared is on you.

It's the Internet, Bro. I clown on the Internet . Don't get so hung up on fun usernames.

My bike wasn't $1,000. It's $2,000.
I was paid to become proficient with killing weapons. I get no pleasure from them and I don’t feel the need to own any. I am not the fearful type.
 
It might feel insulting to you as an American but the world renowned bike drivetrain manufacturer Garbaruk is an Ukrainian company producing in Poland. You pay US$250 or more for the Garbaruk cassette which is far more superior than Shimano or SRAM are. Besides... where does the American company SRAM make their drivetrains? In China, perhaps? :)

What is worrying me is Bafang is manufactured in Wrocław Poland for the EU market.
So do you ride with a Garbaruk?
And what shift are you now working on the throttle assembly line at the Wroclaw manufacturing plant?
How much is your employee discount?
 
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I was paid to become proficient with killing weapons. I get no pleasure from them and I don’t feel the need to own any. I am not the fearful type.
That's the beautiful thing about the United States Constitution. You're not obligated to exercise any of the rights.

It's not called being fearful. It's called being prepared. Chance favors those that are prepared.
 
roll your bicycle backwards
Coaster brake eBikes are touchy and yes it is best to roll it backwards before starting it and not starting it with any pedal pressure. It looks like that bike will be sold this week.
One of those things about guns is they are firstly most likely to kill their owner. Next a close family member. The stats say that they do not add to home safety, they take away from it. And what is really great about amendments is that they are by definition amendable. Just like the 19th amendment. When it was repealed it ended prohibition. What comes first and is not amendable are rights such as Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness while in public. Guns in public take away our most fundamental rights.
 
Coaster brake eBikes are touchy and yes it is best to roll it backwards before starting it and not starting it with any pedal pressure. It looks like that bike will be sold this week.
One of those things about guns is they are firstly most likely to kill their owner. Next a close family member. The stats say that they do not add to home safety, they take away from it. And what is really great about amendments is that they are by definition amendable. Just like the 19th amendment. When it was repealed it ended prohibition. What comes first and is not amendable are rights such as Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness while in public. Guns in public take away our most fundamental rights.
Guns are inanimate objects. They can't do anything without human intervention. I've been around guns my entire life, and have owned guns since my teens. None of my guns have ever "hurt" me. Quit lapping up what the lame stream media tells you. Guns don't take anything away.

Of course Amendments can be repealed. Extremely unlikely the 2nd Amendment will be repealed. The process is long, and difficult for a reason. I don't see it happening. 🥔 brain Anti-gunners don't see it happening.
 
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