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Oh, it's worse than that.
It sounds like you haven't heard about climate data being read by teleconnection. It's real.
As said by the greats:
The Rain in Maine Falls Mainly In the Seine
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You mean: Wet areas wetter. Dry areas drier. Deeper freezing and higher heat
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No denying that.
New York to Florida
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I get what you are saying-- and I feel that this is a really interesting point. For the last 50 years, and particularly in the last 25, we've been flooded with pseudo-scientific / corporate blather, where outlier examples are cherry-picked, aggregated and assembled as if they prove something they do not. Given a certain set of life experiences, I think I can understand how folks might conclude that anthropogenic climate change is another example of people being deliberately misled.
Climate is also an incredibly complex system (which I am sure Dodgeman understands) that produces a lot of bizarre, outlier events and influenced by an incredibly diverse range of variables. People do get struck by lightning; it really does rain fish sometimes.
I mean, what the hell is wind, anyway? When we got our last rescue dog, he'd never lived in a place that was very windy, and I remember the look on his face when he went in the back yard when it was blowing 50 or 60 MPH: "Oh, come on! Very funny, quit kidding around and shut off the fan. Where is the fan?!" I feel that way myself sometimes.
Part of the issue is that climate "change" doesn't necessarily just mean warming or cooling, and it encompasses more than just temperature, precipitation, and wind. Atmospheric pressure, the chemical composition of the air, and changes in the magnetosphere have profound impacts on weather and the habitability of the planet-- and drastic changes in even a single metric can be an extinction level event. We could all die long before the planet becomes too hot to live on because of the crap we pour into the air and water-- and I'm not at all sure it would be heat that kills us first. So I don't think of 'pollution' and 'climate change' as separate ideas.
What sold me was the atmospheric concentration of CO2. This can be measured very accurately from ice cores, we have very good numbers going back over two million years. It was around 300 PPM when I was little, it's 417 PPM now. And my best read on the research and personal experience is that cognitive capability really crashes when it gets up to around 800. At the rate we're going, that could happen in less than two centuries. I can FEEL the difference when indoor CO2 is getting towards 1000 PPM. I cannot believe that humans, or animals, or plants can tolerate that kind of abuse indefinitely.
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How deep from the surface was that measured very accurately around PPM 300 ? What name, what location.
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Exactly. You see pollution, then that means temperature is rising.
There lies delusion.
When I look at this graph I notice the Little Ice Age low temperature time ending in 1855 or something. Nothing remotely close to that low of Maunder Minimun, for 2021 years.
BUT.
That's only as far back as this graph happens to show.
Thanks for your ice core location data
This here whole hemip-shere is brought to you by NOAH. Not by me. Just wanted you to be able to see less pollution.
Please ignore the temperature at year 1000. no, just back a smidge there at the high point. If that spike had been, like, about 5 years later, the "HOTTEST DECADE in 1000 YEARS" shriek from IPCC wouldn't have worked.
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Trying to enlighten a flat earther is an utter waste of time.
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I never consider it a waste of time, even when science deniers deny NOAH's scientific articles.
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I always try to reason with them. Nobody is too far gone to abandon. You need to get them to answer their own questions
For example, I would ask them "if you want to know about the temperature in the close period before the infamous industrialization you hold mainly responsible for the rise, would you look at graphs with the type of resolution you'd find in an 800,000 year type of graph or a 2000 yr graph?".
For example, I would ask them "if you want to know about the temperature in the close period before the infamous industrialization you hold mainly responsible for the rise, would you look at graphs with the type of resolution you'd find in an 800,000 year type of graph or a 2000 yr graph?".
Can someone explain this to me? Obama and both John Kerry push the climate crisis... So How is it or why is it they would both buy beach front properties at Marthas Vineyard?
Acting through a private realty trust, Mr. Kerry paid $11.75 million for 18.5 acres and a house overlooking Vineyard Sound.
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They both bought at basically zero sea level ... That says a lot... Why woudl they purchase if its going to be destroyed soon? Insurance scam? Or maybe they are not Sheeple?
Acting through a private realty trust, Mr. Kerry paid $11.75 million for 18.5 acres and a house overlooking Vineyard Sound.
John Kerry Buys Historic Martha's Vineyard Property
Former Secretary of State John F. Kerry has bought an 18.5-acre waterfront property at Seven Gates Farm for $11.75 million.
President Obama Buys Home on Edgartown Great Pond
President Obama Buys Home on Edgartown Great Pond
Former President Obama and his family are permanent homeowners on Martha’s Vineyard, after completing the purchase this week of a large home in the coastal perimeter of Edgartown.
They both bought at basically zero sea level ... That says a lot... Why woudl they purchase if its going to be destroyed soon? Insurance scam? Or maybe they are not Sheeple?
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It is disposable fun while the party lasts. Obama is 60. He might get another 15-years of Summers out of it. Kerry might get 7.
That would be the same for all of us.. so what is the point then? I would say hypocrite but in order to be that you have to believe in what you are saying.. They do not... Actions speak louder than words.. They dont believe any of it.. shows in how they live and fly around the world.. All there actions point towards its a all a lie.
Big planes, Big boats, Big cars, big houses... And people blindly follow but never look... Willfully following know what they are doing isnt any good for the climate but they still back them none the less. Amazing.
Big planes, Big boats, Big cars, big houses... And people blindly follow but never look... Willfully following know what they are doing isnt any good for the climate but they still back them none the less. Amazing.
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john peck
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Don´t say that, 45 will want to build a golf course & hotel.
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We live in a world of disparities such as income. Former presidents have a big footprint, all of them. And politicians tend to be hypocrites, all of them, from George Washington, and before that. Finger pointing is a form of avoiding taking leadership ourselves. What is important is taking responsibility ourselves. I sold my car in January of 2018. And have used ebikes daily ever since.
You remind me of the Senator (I forget his name) that said climate change was a hoax because when the ice melts in my drink my glass doesn't overflow.Can someone explain this to me? Obama and both John Kerry push the climate crisis... So How is it or why is it they would both buy beach front properties at Marthas Vineyard?
Acting through a private realty trust, Mr. Kerry paid $11.75 million for 18.5 acres and a house overlooking Vineyard Sound.
John Kerry Buys Historic Martha's Vineyard Property
Former Secretary of State John F. Kerry has bought an 18.5-acre waterfront property at Seven Gates Farm for $11.75 million.
President Obama Buys Home on Edgartown Great Pond
President Obama Buys Home on Edgartown Great Pond
Former President Obama and his family are permanent homeowners on Martha’s Vineyard, after completing the purchase this week of a large home in the coastal perimeter of Edgartown.
They both bought at basically zero sea level ... That says a lot... Why woudl they purchase if its going to be destroyed soon? Insurance scam? Or maybe they are not Sheeple?
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45 is in the red. And he can't do that from prison. He and his organization is going down. He has burned every investor and loyalist, throwing them under the bus.
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