The Green Room

[Gionnirocket]

If there is none to blame (point the finger) .. How can you constructively tackle the issue?

If there is no per se blame how do you identify the problem? Seems to be part of the process?

I am just pointing out that maybe, just maybe the humans are not all the blame and might not be the actual problem.. Maybe its a misdiagnosis and maybe the ones doing the diagnosis have other plans that are a little more devious than we know.

Suck on your cars tailpipe and get back to me

 

[DavidRvR]

Suck on your cars tailpipe and get back to me

We were doing so good.... Keep exhaling into that mask...

 

[tomjasz]

 

[tomjasz]

Hey, has anyone witnessed weird weather events this week?

Just the usual February 9F.

 

[Handlebars]

A message for the anti-science blood-letters of lockdownerism

 

[DavidRvR]

And another thin skinned old timer down for the count.. Haaa my way or the highway lol... Awesome group think.. UnAmerican anti Conversation... Same thing the Communist/ Socialist do...

But because we live in the USA I can agree with him crying and ignoring as an American right to do so.. IRONY at its best... You guy dont even see it.. Lol

I believe everyone should have a voice .. Good or Bad.. AS long as it doesnt call for violence and so on but Hurt feeling just makes one look weak is all..

 

[kmccune]

United States/Life expectancy
78.79 years (2019)

It actually dropped I believe in 2021.

I cant wait to see what the CDC Comes up with Total deaths from Covid Vs Total deaths with Covid.. They had mentioned It might be 75% less of the total reported numbers.

Ok Tom, IF one was insane? Would they know they was insane? In theory i would say no they wouldnt because they are insane.

I was wondering so.. Looked it up.. Kind of like climate weather seasonal change... Everyone has an opinion on Yes or no..

The first thing to understand is that “insane” is not a medical term, it's a legal term.

From the legal point of view, the term “insane” is used to express that someone is either unaware of their actions, unaware of the consequences of their actions or unaware of whether their actions are wrong or right. From that point of view, there's a case to be made that a person can't be unaware that they are insane.

And in the Spirit of others to keep things on topic.. which This thing has been all over from COVID, Politics, Complaints and insults to Hitting the Ignore button...

Volcanoes and glaciers combine as powerful methane producers​

Lancaster UniversitySummary:Large amounts of the potent greenhouse gas methane are being released from an Icelandic glacier, scientists have discovered. A study of Sólheimajökull glacier, which flows from the active, ice-covered volcano Katla, shows that up to 41 tons of methane is being released through meltwaters every day during the summer months.
A study of Sólheimajökull glacier, which flows from the active, ice-covered volcano Katla, shows that up to 41 tonnes of methane is being released through meltwaters every day during the summer months. This is roughly equivalent to the methane produced by more than 136,000 belching cows.

Maybe you guys are on to something but maybe your angle of attack is completely wrong?

I think He said "inane".

 

[tomjasz]

I think He said "inane".

Yes, I don't see his posts, but this is typical. Poor reading comprehension, but lots of "meme" based ideas.

 

[DavidRvR]

I think He said "inane".

Maybe.. Guess its up for interpretation.. what is though?

'80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated' says Ichilov hospital director

Vaccine has "no significance regarding severe illness," says Prof. Jacob Giris.

www.israelnationalnews.com

'80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated' says Ichilov hospital director​

Vaccine has "no significance regarding severe illness," says Prof. Yaakov Jerris.​

Everyone refusal to actually see this is what's insane.. incredible actually ...

How much proof you guys need? Or Who needs to actually say it out loud before anyone listens? Insane is correct.. Keep doing the same thing thinking a different result? Perfect example... maybe booster number 10 will get it..

 

[john peck]

Simple, just do what capitalism does best and create some demand. The marketplace, investment, jobs, etc will follow.

ie: Is that laptop made using carbon neutral manufacturing processes? Does that car power my house when my panels are dormant? Was that cow fed seaweed to cut the methane emissions?

A carbon trading scheme is one powerful step in that direction. Anyone seen or read anything interesting of late on the cost of inaction versus action?

Just park it! Buy in bulk simple foods that do not require gobs of plastic packaging.or grow yur own.
Make things instead of buying them when you can. Become self-reliant instead of a corporate thrall.
P.S. The medical industry is robbing young America of it´s legacy.

 

[DavidRvR]

Just park it! Buy in bulk simple foods that do not require gobs of plastic packaging.or grow yur own.
Make things instead of buying them when you can. Become self-reliant instead of a corporate thrall.

Totally agree.. Some of us do not have a green thumb or the land to do it per se.. The supply chain is cracked and soon to be severed in many areas of the economy.. Stock up on dry goods and stock the freezer as best you can.,.. Tuff times are coming.. If nothing else beat the inflation where you can.. Dont forget cleaners.. Bleach vinegar and so on

The store shelves will not be getting better for a long while but it will continue to Fracture ..

 

[Handlebars]

Totally agree.. Some of us do not have a green thumb or the land to do it per se.. The supply chain is cracked and soon to be severed in many areas of the economy.. Stock up on dry goods and stock the freezer as best you can.,.. Tuff times are coming.. If nothing else beat the inflation where you can.. Dont forget cleaners.. Bleach vinegar and so on

The store shelves will not be getting better for a long while but it will continue to Fracture ..

The news of the ships waiting at ports with food going rotten has subsided as the thieves of freedom now saber-rattle against a phantom

 

[DavidRvR]

The news of the ships waiting at ports with food going rotten has subsided as the thieves of freedom now saber-rattle against a phantom

This? They are lying.. Flat out. Got Caught ... One Critical thinker is all it takes.. bunch of sheep!!

Must Watch, AP Journalist Matt Lee Questions State Dept About Claims of Russian Aggression - The Last Refuge

The statements and position by Ned Price are transparently absurd. Ridiculously so.

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[Art Deco]

Look, I realize you folks are having fun trading personal insults and rooting for the big "redhats" vs "blue masks" game , but has anyone noticed the weather? Or fuel prices? Or the amount of packaging involved in having everything delivered?

I am old enough to remember when liberals believed in liberty and conservatives believed in conservation, so FWIW here's my take on modern American politics.

Today, every politician out there has their job only because it was the best job they could get at the time... IOW, no major corporation would hire them for any responsible position.

They may have some eager beaver enthusiasm for a year or two after their first election, but after that they learn to think of their constituents as what we really are to them ... pests, that are keeping them from important things like being on TV, or calling big donors for more money.

Way back when I was young, I thought that if I knew nothing about a pair of down ballot candidates, I should just vote for the party . Today, when I run into those unknowns, I just vote against the incumbent.

Politicians pay no attention to voters unless they think they might lose an election, so my vote might matter a tiny bit by making them pay some attention to their jobs. It's unlikely, but at least it's possible.

So all this thinly veiled partisan politics really has no place in a discussion of adapting to climate change. Whoever is in office, our government will probably continue to be the biggest part of the problem.

Sorry about that.

 

[DavidRvR]

Great Post ArtDeco.. mostly agree

But these politicians are the ones who set policy.. Including the waste and Climate change stuff so Kind of connected in my Opinion but As they say about opinions

These guys and girls Fill their coffers and personal bank accounts on the backs of the USA tax payer...

 

[Art Deco]

Look at what any fortune 500 CEO's compensation looks like ( a million dollars a month is common) compared to what we pay our top elected officials, and it's pretty clear that we don't want to pay for top people, so we don't get the best or brightest. Or even reasonably honest or competent.

I'll shut up now.

 

[DavidRvR]

You also have to see that most elected officials have a Cushy Job with CNN.. FOX or end up a lobbiest and get paid millions.. Look at the TOP Members of some big companies and look at their earlier carriers and you will find Some Politicians and White house Staff and so on.

No budget passed in like12 years( or something like that) ... Congress hasnt written a law in probably 30 years... Done by special interest groups and Lobbyists and I cant think of the other business entity off the top of my head (kinda like the BBB but bigger). **** EDIT *** it was the Chamber Of Commerce

 

[PedalUma]

The Gov of California was up for a recall in October. He won 80% of the vote and is doing a great job running the 6th largest economy in the world, while taking leadership on climate and environmental issues. I am not saying he is perfect, just a human who is doing a good job of getting out front. I think Newsome could be the CEO of just about any fortune 100 company. They would be lucky to have him. Would he trade his current job to become the next VP? That would be a demotion in responsibility.

Now back on track. We cannot wait for major events to do our small part now. I made a recycled bike electric last week. This week there is one less car on the road. And two very happy kids who will grow up with a green tradition for future generations.

 

[DavidRvR]

Newsome lost a congressional seat... first in history.. not perfect is correct

 

[Handlebars]

So all this thinly veiled partisan politics really has no place in a discussion of adapting to climate change. Whoever is in office, our government will probably continue to be the biggest part of the problem.

Sorry about that.

But you're fantastically wrong in your belief that climate change isn't about politics. They are inseparable from the inception of the conception;; the baby in the womb.