Tannus Armour Insert Tubeless on OEM Vado 5.0 rims?

[GuruUno]

Can these be used on the factory-supplied, OEM rims that are the stock rims on 2022 Vado and Como e-bikes?
(I guess what I am asking is if they can be made "tubeless" or do new tubeless capable rims need to be purchased).
See:

Tannus Armour Insert Tubeless 27.5"

Armour Tubeless displaces the small impacts but also offers a spring-like rebound for a smooth yet playful ride.Proven to be the insert of choice by Professional Racers, Red Bull Rampage Athletes, Dirt Jumpers, Enduro Racers, Weekend Warriors, and the like. Tannus Athlete Reece Wallace said "It...

www.bikeparts.co.uk

 

[Allan47.7339]

I have not used Tannus Armour Inerts but I've used the similar Cushcore and Vittoria air liners. They will help a tubeless tire work better at low pressures and protect the rim from rock hits but I don't think they will make a rim "tubeless" by themselves and the Tannus web site mentions tubeless ready rims. I was using inserts to help a keep a gravel/road tire on a tubeless rim that was giving me trouble. It was much better but it eventually popped off on a hot day. I had not kept up on the sealant maintenance and let the insert stick to the tire. The sealant should have been cleaned and replaced many months before the ride. I am not currently using inserts and I've changed the rim / tire combo that seems to be better and with a sealant maintenance schedule.

Tannus Armour Tubeless Review and Tubeless Tire Inserts: What's the Difference? Part 1 - Cyclocross Magazine - Cyclocross and Gravel News, Races, Bikes, Media

What are some of the choices for tubeless tire inserts and are they for you? In Part One of this series, we review the Tannus Armour Tubeless gravel insert.

www.cxmagazine.com

There is this post but it's too dense for me to read:

Tannus Armour Insert 6000 mile, NO FLAT's Review, for 26" x 4.0" Fat Bike tubed tires, but . . .

To skip this "too long" Intro, Setup & Links section, skip halfway down the page to the "Here's a short list of Pro's and a long list of Con's" section. It contains a 7 point summation of what's necessary to be successful w/ this Tannus Armour Insert. So, this is a Practice Review as I'm...

electricbikereview.com

 

[GuruUno]

I'll attempt to digest, thank you

 

[fooferdoggie]

if it is this bike then it is tubeless ready rims https://www.specialized.com/co/en/turbo-vado-sl-5-0-eq/p/154892?color=301340-154892

 

[GuruUno]

No, I've got the non-sl, as well as the Como....

 

[fooferdoggie]

most likely they are tubeless ready. just check their webpage it should say.

 

[GuruUno]

Nowhere is it stated: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-vado-5-0/p/206151?color=348417-206151

WHEELS​

Rims
650b disc, double-wall alloy, pinned, 32h
Rear Hub
Alloy, sealed cartridge bearings, 12x148mm thru-axle, 32h
Spokes
DT Swiss Industry
Rear Tire
Pathfinder Sport Reflect, 650Bx2.3
Front Tire
Pathfinder Sport Reflect, 650Bx2.3
Front Hub
Specialized alloy front hub disc, sealed cardridge bearings, 6-bolt, 15x110mm thru-axle, 32h
Inner Tubes
Standard 40mm SV 650Bx1.75-2.4

 

[fooferdoggie]

Nowhere is it stated: https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-vado-5-0/p/206151?color=348417-206151

WHEELS​

Rims
650b disc, double-wall alloy, pinned, 32h
Rear Hub
Alloy, sealed cartridge bearings, 12x148mm thru-axle, 32h
Spokes
DT Swiss Industry
Rear Tire
Pathfinder Sport Reflect, 650Bx2.3
Front Tire
Pathfinder Sport Reflect, 650Bx2.3
Front Hub
Specialized alloy front hub disc, sealed cardridge bearings, 6-bolt, 15x110mm thru-axle, 32h
Inner Tubes
Standard 40mm SV 650Bx1.75-2.4

ya maybe they are not. but I would be surprised if they were not. the main difference is the rim lip is a little taller and usually has a hook.

 

[GuruUno]

Thanks, I'll ask the LBS...but if not mistaken, I think they already said no, but it was some time ago, I'll have to ask again. Maybe Stefan knows...

 

[fooferdoggie]

Thanks, I'll ask the LBS...but if not mistaken, I think they already said no, but it was some time ago, I'll have to ask again. Maybe Stefan knows...

if they have a label it may say but maybe not either, people do it with regular rims but it is a risk.

 

[Allan47.7339]

The support page has info for converting 2022 Vado's to tubeless with additional instructions due to the rim valve hole that seems to be sized for a Schrader valve:

Wheels & Tires

support.specialized.com

Assuming you are new to experimenting with tubeless, make sure it is not near anything that household management might be annoyed if it's covered in splattered sticky sealant or wearing your favorite pants or hairy legs.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Maybe Stefan knows...

Rely on Allan. He always comes with excellent advices!