Here are some (slashed) Creos. Never seen a Creo for under £3K before. Giant is having a sale as well. It might be just the usual clear out before new models, or lack of buyers in UK because we are all spending all our hard earned cash on feckin' heating bills!
Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)
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Stefan Mikes
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Check the available sizes though.
Same discounts for Poland.
Stefan Mikes
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The e-bike maintenance is so annoying!
The chain in my Fearless (Vado SL 4.0) stretched to 0.5% at some 1900 km (1,180 mi). I also need to replace one of the inner tubes...
(Still, I have to replace the chain on my full power Vado 6.0 every 1600 km (1,000 mi). A little bit more frequently).
Could not find a reasonably priced 10-speed, 116L chain using a Quick Link, hence spare connecting pins, just in case. (My Vado SL cassette is not the stock one; I replaced it with a 11-36T one. Not only more equal gear spread but also shorter & less expensive chain).
The chain in my Fearless (Vado SL 4.0) stretched to 0.5% at some 1900 km (1,180 mi). I also need to replace one of the inner tubes...
(Still, I have to replace the chain on my full power Vado 6.0 every 1600 km (1,000 mi). A little bit more frequently).
Could not find a reasonably priced 10-speed, 116L chain using a Quick Link, hence spare connecting pins, just in case. (My Vado SL cassette is not the stock one; I replaced it with a 11-36T one. Not only more equal gear spread but also shorter & less expensive chain).
It can cost you, when least expected and then the prices seem high. I always try and stock up on things like inner tubes and lube when I see bargains. But there is always something you need that you don't happen to have at the time! I currently have 3 bikes with different needs/sizes but in the winter I tend to mostly use the Vado SL so that gets more attention, the non electric bikes I use in better weather. Looking forward to riding them in the warm sunshine in a month or so!
mschwett
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wow, that’s pretty short life. maybe try some different lube and cleaning regimes? i recently learned that my chain cleaning routine was doing a great job cleaning the outer plates of the chain (not very useful lol) while not doing a great job on the interior parts. have you tried drip wax? supposedly much longer chain and cassette life!
Stefan Mikes
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Hated it
Mark, I do not care. I only degrease and apply lube to my chains rather regularly. Currently, a chain for my Vado SL is around $18. This is like a paper for a printer...
e-levity
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Chain life depends on ride conditions as well as maintenance, so it's tough to predict how long a chain will last.
Here's a quick and easy waxing method that I use. Maxima spray-on chain lube worked great on my motos and has proven itself on my bikes as well.
The carrier solvent cleans and helps transport the wax inside the plates and onto the rollers.
Here's a quick and easy waxing method that I use. Maxima spray-on chain lube worked great on my motos and has proven itself on my bikes as well.
The carrier solvent cleans and helps transport the wax inside the plates and onto the rollers.
GAJ
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Actually no, my 2021 has the mastermind display on the top bar...or is that the older TCU which I thought was on the handlebar?
My build date is 10/23/21.
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Stefan Mikes
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GAJ
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Yes, mine shows date but as I don't have a smartphone I don't use the phone app to customize anything and am fine with it "stock."
I just wish it had a miles since new odometer as well as the trip odometer available on the bike display vs going to the app.
Looks like you got a 2022 model sold as a 2021. Makes sense given the end-of-october build date.
Specialized support site and the photos on your web link say/show the 2021 models got the older version, while 2022+ models get the newer Mastermind TCU that you have. So while it's *possible* someone might receive the newer version when buying a 2021 model, I would say that'd be an exception and not to be expected.
From your web link:
Stefan Mikes
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Buy the SL Range Extenders in the U.S. while they are so cheap!
The price is stiff at €460 in Europe...
BEC111
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I agree. The best accessory investment I’ve made for mine. No more range anxiety and less time on the charger.
Sixty to 70 miles on a charge over several rides this winter. I didn’t pay attention, so can’t say what the difference might be for summer weather.
Thanks - this is exactly what I was looking for!
Löhmraagondein
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As anyone ever thought about changing the fork on their Vado SL, especially to put a suspended one (to gain polyvalence)? I asked about the idea at my LBS, and they told me it could be doable, though with a limit of around 5cm in travel to keep the bike "balanced" (if that makes sense) . A lockable one seems ideal to keep as much performance as possible on the road. Any insights will be more than welcome. As I don't have the money to get a brand new fork, I'd like to first find some adequate models, and then hunt on the secondary market to find an affordable one.
I know a lot of you have installed a redshift shockstop stem on your bikes. For gravel/gravel+ trips, is it enough? The travel seems a bit limited to enjoy a wider spectrum of terrains, even though after reading your comments, this thing really seems to smooth out the road. But what I'm looking for is probably above that in terms of technicality of terrain. Would a combo suspension stem + tubeless wheels (allowing a bit more of low pression) be enough to give similar performances as a suspended fork?
Of course, the Vado won't and can't become a mountain bike, and I'm not expecting to be able to do crazy things with it. I just like and aspire to be able to follow as much paths as I encounter without telling me "don't, you'll damage your bike".
Thanks in advance as usual
I know a lot of you have installed a redshift shockstop stem on your bikes. For gravel/gravel+ trips, is it enough? The travel seems a bit limited to enjoy a wider spectrum of terrains, even though after reading your comments, this thing really seems to smooth out the road. But what I'm looking for is probably above that in terms of technicality of terrain. Would a combo suspension stem + tubeless wheels (allowing a bit more of low pression) be enough to give similar performances as a suspended fork?
Of course, the Vado won't and can't become a mountain bike, and I'm not expecting to be able to do crazy things with it. I just like and aspire to be able to follow as much paths as I encounter without telling me "don't, you'll damage your bike".
Thanks in advance as usual
Stefan Mikes
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It is more than enough. From the ride comfort viewpoint, Redshift feels like a good suspension. 20 mm of suspension at the stem is as good as 50-60 mm travel of the suspension fork.
What would be the reason to make your lightweight e-bike heavy by adding the suspension fork? Why should you spoil the geometry of Vado SL? It is not without reason Specialized installed the FutureShock and a carbon fork for SL 5.0. Besides, Specialized would gladly provide the FutureShock and the carbon fork for you, only it is very expensive.
Did I say the Redshift ShockStop was more than enough for rides like that one?
(Almost no gravel bike has any suspension!)Appreciate the light weight! Good gravel tyres such as Specialized Pathfinder Pro 2Bliss do help, too.
Löhmraagondein
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How much do you think the fork and future shock system cost? Couldn't find any price on Specialized website. I guess that if the difference between the 4.0 and 5.0 is around 1000€, it's something close to that.
Again, I just want to expand the capabilities. But of course, there are various dimensions to take into account. Hence why I ask questions before deciding a path. I've been lurking to find a second hand redshift stem, but they're usually not the right girth (27ish mm instead of the 31ish mm). I may end up buying a brand new if this path is the most cost effective one. Thanks for your insight
Edit: I fucking love the pathfinders. They amazed me in snow, mud, dirt, gravel.
Again, I just want to expand the capabilities. But of course, there are various dimensions to take into account. Hence why I ask questions before deciding a path. I've been lurking to find a second hand redshift stem, but they're usually not the right girth (27ish mm instead of the 31ish mm). I may end up buying a brand new if this path is the most cost effective one. Thanks for your insight
Edit: I fucking love the pathfinders. They amazed me in snow, mud, dirt, gravel.
GAJ
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$4249 for the SL 5.0, lower prices on other SLs as well.
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