Stefan Mikes
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Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)
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Stefan Mikes
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OK. 2022 Vado SL 5.0 has got the Mastermind TCU. It is a full blown display located on the top tube with (as Specialized writes) 120 possible screen configurations. An exciting feature is called Micro Tune: You can adjust assistance levels as you ride. Also, the software updates are delivered Over-The-Air (no need to go to the dealer for an update).
Currently, Vado SL 4.0 comes with the older TCU, exactly as yours and mine, ronaan.
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The 120 screen configurations do not appear to include the separate display of internal and RE battery ... at least, it's not an option I'm offered via Mission Control. I suppose it's possible that the option might appear if I had a range extender battery, but I suspect not.
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I think the integrated value such as 150% that would appear in the display.
MC reports 150% in the main screen, and it shows individual levels under Diagnosis.
I think everyone agrees to that.
Meanwhile, Wahoo...
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There is no separate level display for the RE. The "120 screen configs" is just a gimmick using combinatorics: there are several choices of screen layout selecting the number of fields and relative sizes, then for each field there are X different parameters that can be displayed and they just multiply them out. 120 is mildly impressive, but if you did the same for a Garmin Edge, I would think that the result would be several thousand!
@Stefan Mikes About the Wahoo display of separate numbers, I wonder if this works on the newer bikes that are using the encrypted protocol that is not available to third-party apps & devices. If it were part of the standard "public" e-bike protocol it seems like it would be displayable by other devices.
Stefan Mikes
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AFAIK it is the Bluetooth but not ANT+ that is encrypted. Wahoo/Garmin use ANT+ to connect to e-bikes.
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FYI, my Edge 1030+ also uses BT to connect to sensors that support BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy). The most recent Garmin speed sensor that I bought broadcasts both ANT+ and BLE, as does my Polar Verity Sense heart monitor (and my Wahoo Kickr trainer). Of course, Specialized may or may not implement BLE for selected signals.
Stefan Mikes
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Hey, but you can just turn your SL on and connect your 1030+ to see.
My garmins automatically detect and ask to connect to the ebike's ant sensors. Makes it very easy to set up with a new bike as I did when doing my demo rides. So that read only data is readily accessible. That raises the question whether an ant enabled phone could then connect to the sensors. Looks like android play store has at least one ant + bike computer app, tho it does not show any ebike specific data fields. If Blevo were to be modified to include adding ant sensors, an ant enabled phone running read only Blevo would be a worthy consideration for a bike computer. Maybe Stefan can buy Paolo an ant enabled phone for development purposes. Or lend one of his ebikes to the android app developer.
Stefan Mikes
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The Paolo's message on another Forum: "GAME IS OVER".
rochrunner
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ANT+ is a broadcast protocol. There is no "connection" per se, and any number of devices can simultaneously be receiving the same signal. However, in the case where a device can be controlled by ANT+, such as light networks, only one controlling device, such as a Garmin Edge, can be connected.
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Despite owning my Vado SL 4.0 EQ for six months now, I only just discovered that the Shimano Deore Rapidfire Plus gear lever has “2-way release” which means, to change up, you can either pull on the lever with your index finger or push with your thumb. Changing down requires pushing the other lever with your thumb. This is mentioned at the very end of the EBR video review.
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Unfortunately, the SRAM shifter on the 5.0 does not work that way.
Stefan Mikes
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SRAM and Shimano are a way different in this respect.
rochrunner
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My road bikes have always had Shimano 105 components, so I've never been able to try out the "double-tap" SRAM drop-bar shifters, which are quite different. At least with the flat-bar controls their basic operation is the same.
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I will try the 2-way feature on my next ride, but I don’t think it will be any great advantage My previous bike - Giant Toughroad SLR2 - had more basic Shimano shifters. My wife’s 5.0 which is on order will have SRAM gears.
Stefan Mikes
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@Richard Stallard: Pleased to meet you! You're probably the first Australian in these Fora riding a Vado SL!
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Hi Stefan. I joined the forum a few weeks ago and posted then. I met another person recently with a Vado SL Stepthrough and I know 3 people with Creo SL’s. However, there have been hardly any SL bikes available to buy in the last 6 months.
You might be interested to know I filmed two rides for FulGaz virtual cycling app on my Vado SL in the Margaret River region of Western Australia which have recently been published. You can see previews of the rides using the links below. Both rides are a mixture of rail trail and rural roads.
The Rides - FulGaz
fulgaz.com
The Rides - FulGaz
fulgaz.com
Stefan Mikes
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Richard! You must join the David Berry's thread with this material!Hi Stefan. I joined the forum a few weeks ago and posted then. I met another person recently with a Vado SL Stepthrough and I know 3 people with Creo SL’s. However, there have been hardly any SL bikes available to buy in the last 6 months.
You might be interested to know I filmed two rides for FulGaz virtual cycling app on my Vado SL in the Margaret River region of Western Australia which have recently been published. You can see previews of the rides using the links below. Both rides are a mixture of rail trail and rural roads.
The Rides - FulGaz
The Rides - FulGaz
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