Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

Thanks @Stefan Mikes ... the light hadn't been adjusted in that first photo. It has been now and it is largely clear of the cables. I'm also likely to use a secondary flashing LED light for visibility.

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Disappointingly I had to get contrasting black CrankBrothers pedals as they don't do a yellow finish ;)

I've also worked out how to change the info on the MCU - either by fiddling with the handlebar controller or, more easily, via the App. It's all pretty intuitive.

Cheers.
 
Anyone know if the Vado SL side stand is the same as for the regular Vado? I want to be sure my shop orders the right part.
 
rochrunner said:
Anyone know if the Vado SL side stand is the same as for the regular Vado? I want to be sure my shop orders the right part.
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Ah. That was one thing I forgot to mention. A kickstand came as a part of delivery of my Vado SL 4.0 EQ. I can get the part number but you'd need to wait for a day.
 
Mine has no distinguishing labels on it I'm afraid. It was fitted already. The manual (which relates to an earlier model anyway) doesn't have any part numbers that I can see.
 

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Specialized MSC MY18 Vado/Como Kickstand 323mm with Bolts​


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Specialized MSC MY18 Vado/Como Kickstand 323mm with Bolts​

Season:2020

Brand:Specialized

Code:S189900044
This item is used on the following models:
  • 2022 VADO SL VADO SL 4.0
  • 2022 VADO SL VADO SL 4.0 EQ
  • 2022 VADO SL VADO SL 4.0 STEP THROUGH EQ
  • 2022 VADO SL VADO SL 5.0
  • 2022 VADO SL VADO SL 5.0 EQ
  • 2022 VADO SL VADO SL 5.0 STEP THROUGH EQ
  • 2021 COMO COMO 3.0 650B
  • 2021 COMO COMO 3.0 LOW ENTRY 650B
  • 2021 COMO COMO 3.0 LOW ENTRY 700C NB
  • 2021 COMO COMO 4.0 650B
  • 2021 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 650B
  • 2021 COMO COMO 5.0 650B
  • 2021 COMO COMO 5.0 LOW ENTRY 650B
  • 2021 COMO COMO 5.0 LOW ENTRY 700C NB
  • 2021 VADO VADO 3.0
  • 2021 VADO VADO 3.0 NB
  • 2021 VADO VADO 3.0 STEP THROUGH
  • 2021 VADO VADO 3.0 STEP THROUGH NB
  • 2021 VADO VADO 4.0
  • 2021 VADO VADO 4.0 NB
  • 2021 VADO VADO 4.0 STEP THROUGH
  • 2021 VADO VADO 4.0 STEP THROUGH NB
  • 2021 VADO VADO 5.0
  • 2021 VADO VADO 5.0 NB
  • 2021 VADO VADO 5.0 STEP THROUGH
  • 2021 VADO VADO 5.0 STEP THROUGH NB
  • 2021 VADO SL VADO SL 4.0 EQ
  • 2020 COMO COMO 3.0 650B
  • 2020 COMO COMO 3.0 LOW ENTRY 650B
  • 2020 COMO COMO 4.0 650B LTD
  • 2020 COMO COMO 4.0 650B NB LTD
  • 2020 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 650B LTD
  • 2020 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 650B NB LTD
  • 2020 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 700C NB
  • 2020 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 700C NB LTD
  • 2020 VADO VADO 3.0
  • 2020 VADO VADO 3.0 NB
  • 2020 VADO VADO 3.0 STEP THROUGH
  • 2020 VADO VADO 3.0 STEP THROUGH NB
  • 2020 VADO VADO 4.0
  • 2020 VADO VADO 4.0 LTD
  • 2020 VADO VADO 4.0 NB
  • 2020 VADO VADO 4.0 NB LTD
  • 2020 VADO VADO 4.0 STEP THROUGH
  • 2020 VADO VADO 4.0 STEP THROUGH LTD
  • 2020 VADO VADO 4.0 STEP THROUGH NB
  • 2020 VADO VADO 4.0 STEP THROUGH NB LTD
  • 2019 COMO COMO 2.0 650B
  • 2019 COMO COMO 2.0 LOW ENTRY 650B
  • 2019 COMO COMO 3.0 650B
  • 2019 COMO COMO 3.0 LOW ENTRY 650B
  • 2019 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 700C (19)
  • 2019 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 700C NB (19)
  • 2019 COMO COMO 5.0 650B
  • 2019 COMO COMO 5.0 LOW ENTRY 650B
  • 2019 COMO COMO 5.0 LOW ENTRY 700C NB
  • 2019 COMO COMO 6.0 LOW ENTRY 700C NB
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 1.0
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 1.0 NB
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 2.0 (18)
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 2.0 NB (18)
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 3.0
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 3.0 NB
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 4.0
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 4.0 NB
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 5.0
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 5.0 NB
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 6.0
  • 2019 VADO MEN VADO MEN 6.0 NB
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 1.0
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 1.0 NB
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 2.0 (18)
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 2.0 NB (18)
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 3.0
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 3.0 NB
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 4.0
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 4.0 NB
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 6.0
  • 2019 VADO WMN VADO WMN 6.0 NB
  • 2018 COMO COMO 2.0 650B
  • 2018 COMO COMO 2.0 LOW ENTRY 650B
  • 2018 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 700C
  • 2018 COMO COMO 4.0 LOW ENTRY 700C NB
  • 2018 COMO COMO 5.0 LOW ENTRY 700C
  • 2018 VADO MEN VADO MEN 3.0
  • 2018 VADO MEN VADO MEN 3.0 NB
  • 2018 VADO WMN VADO WMN 3.0
  • 2018 VADO WMN VADO WMN 3.0 NB
 
rochrunner said:
The problem is that -- like the page you linked -- it's listed as out-of-stock everywhere. Of course, I'm not in a huge hurry either!
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The kickstands have been on back order forever. I recommend ordering now. If you can order with right to cancel order from several sources.
 
A couple of Mastermind TCU questions ...
  • I've not got an option to lock the bike using Mission Control. This doesn't of course 'lock' the bike, but it does stop the motor being used. It's a feature on the Vado (though not clear whether this includes the Vado SL) with the Mastermind TCD bikes, so might not apply to mine.
  • has anyone worked out what happens to the data if you turn the bike off, but leave Mission Control running - for example, if I stop for a very long lunch, or go to the beach for a few hours. Is the ride recorded in its entirety, or as two separate rides? If no-one knows I'll investigate next time out.
After a few rides on the undulating roads we have around here - with 500 m of climbing in 40 km for example - I'm using a fraction more than 1% of battery per kilometre. Does that sound about right? Does battery drain remain linear assuming the usage remains broadly the same? I want to plan some longer trips and don't want to find myself 15 km from home on 'vapour' (or whatever the equivalent is for a battery).
 
fatshark said:
After a few rides on the undulating roads we have around here - with 500 m of climbing in 40 km for example - I'm using a fraction more than 1% of battery per kilometre. Does that sound about right? Does battery drain remain linear assuming the usage remains broadly the same?
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Yes, it is linear. However, the last 5% of the battery are hardly usable; the assistance drops significantly. So plan your rides for the 100-5% battery range.
P.S. Can your MasterMind TCU display Range and Range Trend? Bear in mind if you start your loop downwind, the range will significantly drop upwind.
You could use Smart Control in Mission Control to ensure your ride goal would be met on the battery.
 
Thanks ... good to know. I think the TCU can display range (and perhaps range trend) though I've not studied much further than average speed and distance yet. I've managed to pair a HRM successfully.

Every direction I cycle appears to have a headwind around here ;). I can do a 40 km "there and back" route - which is more or less linear - and have a 20 km headwind in both directions. Weird ... and not in a good way.
 
fatshark said:
Every direction I cycle appears to have a headwind around here ;).
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What you're descibing might indicate one of two situations:
  • The wind is weak and what you perceive is "apparent wind", and/or
  • It is a side-wind.
As I plan my long rides meticuously, I always take the wind speed and direction as critical factors into account. If I'm riding solo, I choose the outbound leg of my ride to be upwind, and I try to return with the tailwind. I cannot choose it for group rides though. So I look up the forecast wind and adjust the assistance so I could have more of it upwind but far less downwind. Note: Although Smart Control is trustworthy, I only use it for demo rides to ensure I will be able to return to the LBS. Otherwise, variable assistance of SC is not for me, especially on the mountain road rides.
 
I live on a remote peninsula with one road. At the end of my track I can turn right or left (west or east). In either direction there's no junction for 10-15 km. When i do reach the junction I can either go straight on or north to the other side of the peninsula (another 10 - 15 km). Route finding is pretty straightforward. All of the roads west of me are 'dead ends' and there are no circular route options. They all stop when they run out of land and reach the sea.

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The winds are influenced by the hills and tend to blow in off the sea ... the peninsula is bordered to the south by a narrow sea loch (like a Norwegian fjord). I suspect you're right and it's a mix of apparent wind and a side wind ... but I was also joking a bit when I said there was always a headwind ;).

Time to go and see if I can get range and range trend appearing on the TCU display.
 
fatshark said:
Time to go and see if I can get range and range trend appearing on the TCU display.
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I was very impressed with these features on the MasterMind TCD-w display. As I ride the Gen 1 Vado SL, I need to use a prosthesis for that. Older Spec e-bikes worked with an independent BLEvo app (not working with MasterMind). Therefore, I need to keep my smartphone running BLEvo to get a trustworthy Range estimate. You're lucky with your TCU!
 
Stefan Mikes said:
As I plan my long rides meticuously, I always take the wind speed and direction as critical factors into account. If I'm riding solo, I choose the outbound leg of my ride to be upwind, and I try to return with the tailwind.
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I thought that a big benefit of an e-bike is that I no longer have to consider wind direction when deciding what direction to ride in like I do on my analog bikes... :D
 
rochrunner said:
I thought that a big benefit of an e-bike is that I no longer have to consider wind direction when deciding what direction to ride in like I do on my analog bikes... :D
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Doug, you'd be very surprised with the SL. It is so true-to-life bike you will feel the wind effect :)
Toldya :)
P.S. Regarding the battery range, any e-bike is affected. You cannot cheat the laws of physics.
 
fatshark said:
A couple of Mastermind TCU questions ...
  • I've not got an option to lock the bike using Mission Control. This doesn't of course 'lock' the bike, but it does stop the motor being used. It's a feature on the Vado (though not clear whether this includes the Vado SL) with the Mastermind TCD bikes, so might not apply to mine.
  • has anyone worked out what happens to the data if you turn the bike off, but leave Mission Control running - for example, if I stop for a very long lunch, or go to the beach for a few hours. Is the ride recorded in its entirety, or as two separate rides? If no-one knows I'll investigate next time out.
After a few rides on the undulating roads we have around here - with 500 m of climbing in 40 km for example - I'm using a fraction more than 1% of battery per kilometre. Does that sound about right? Does battery drain remain linear assuming the usage remains broadly the same? I want to plan some longer trips and don't want to find myself 15 km from home on 'vapour' (or whatever the equivalent is for a battery).
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I know that the bike turned off automatically on both ferry legs and possibly before since it was not moving while waiting for the boats. Mission Control recorded the entire trip including the crossings.

kitsap.jpg
 
fatshark said:
A couple of Mastermind TCU questions ...
  • I've not got an option to lock the bike using Mission Control. This doesn't of course 'lock' the bike, but it does stop the motor being used. It's a feature on the Vado (though not clear whether this includes the Vado SL) with the Mastermind TCD bikes, so might not apply to mine.
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Anyone care to elaborate on the part I quoted? This would be a nice addition but it seems the SL variants don't have the "lock" option?

Still don't have mine, my employer is taking really long to get the leasing thing going -.-
 
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