A number of other threads with detailed info, but basically the first number is the percentage of assist (vs the max assist level) and the next is the max power compared to the max power of the bike. So in that case you would have 35% of the max assist level (depending on rider input) but the power would top out at 50% of the max power of the bike.
In other worlds 35% of the available power up to 50 complete turns of the crank by your pedal power per minute . On a class 1 any % of assistance falls off drastically above that Candance : Definitely at 60 : Cadence in case you don't know is the number of complete revolutions you can do on a pedal per minute . Like a clock from 12 back to 12 . With class 3 you would have assistance closer to the 60 and a larger percentage as assistance goes up . If you can get a class 3 get one . You probably won't use or need the extra 70% of the time. But when you do you'll be glad you have it
This is not correct. See earlier explanations.
I don't think that's correct since that would mean that the most assistance you could get at 100% would be1 watt from the motor per 1 watt by the rider. The Vado does a lot better than that -- about "4 x You" as they say with the SL about half that.
I gave your settings a try. I will probably give it another ride or two to decide but in the mean time, you will notice the name I have it in Mission Control's Presets:
I agree that the SL is not 1 for 1 match to rider power. The SL is advertised as 1.8 x you. So for 100 W of rider power, the assistance at 100/100 settings would be 180 W. The 180 W is mechanical power and Blevo or Mission control would display the electrical power required by the motor. The motor/electrical efficiency probably varies alot thru cadence and power spectrum. For settings of say 33assist/33peak power, 100 W rider power would result in 100*1.8*.33=60 W of mechanical assist. That is less than the 80W (33% peak power of 240 W max) so all is well. Like Stefan says, when rider power goes up, the peak power setting becomes more important. @ 300 W rider power, 300*1.8*33=180 W. With peak power level of 33%, the motor assist is limited to 80 W.
There’s nothing wrong with that, but you’re right. I’m wrong. I found the Mission Control manual PDF. It includes a table showing how much rider effort is matched by the bike.
That’s what I thought. 1:1 watts at 100%. Makes sense to me. Others in this forum thought otherwise. The documentation explicitly states the otherwise view. I also find it confusing.
Looks like the PDF I have was updated for the new TCU and the table is gone. Here’s a screen capture of part of the table. Follow Mode 19 across. It is 100/100 showing a 1:2 rider to motor ratio.
. As expected the Blevo motor assist display maxed out at around 120-124 W implying around 84/120 = 70% efficiency. This was true for cadence ranges from 70 to the 90's. It was also true for biker power displayed from less than 100 W to > 133 W. and/or more range. Thread is at: https://www.emtbforums.com/communit...-in-mission-control-app-v2-0.4038/#post-65562
I'm sure that's only marketing talk. Same, full power Vado certainly is not "4x You" even for the strongest 1.3 motor (it is 380%).
'. But it's all awesome and I feel 20 again and run it right up the hill with a huge grin. And then - oh yeah, another road I never went down because the pavement was rough or too many hills. With my Vado SL - I can go anywhere. And maybe that's the real beauty of this engineering marvel.
Excellent review!I picked up my Vado 4 SL last Friday and wanted to share my impressions of the bike. I'm an avid cyclist and relatively fit at 5'10" and 145lbs. I'm pretty much a solo rider with few group rides. The exercise part of riding is something I enjoy but really - I just love riding bikes anywhere and everywhere and spend a lot of time doing it.
I have to start by saying the Vado Sl should come with a disclaimer that it's Cyclist Crack - like the drug. Because ever since I test rode the bike in a parking lot - I've had a huge eBike smile (tm) on my face. This bike is absolutely incredible in every way. The riding experience is like you have the wind at your back or maybe going downhill a bit even when you're going up. It's everything that's fun about biking without having to stand up and pound the pedals on every up-hill. But that's the crazy part. I still work - plenty. My heart rate goes up and I expend great amounts of effort if I want to. After I finish a ride I still feel rewarded regarding cardio. I just feel exhilarated but not spent. Hard to describe. And switching between the support levels is seamless. Yeah, I motor up the hills in turbo but I might feel like sweating and go eco. And the bit of extra weight of the motor and battery actually give the bike a nice strong feel to the ride. I'm comfortable going down big hills at higher speeds on this bike then say my 23mm tire, racing bike.
And I'll keep going. I think it's incredible that Specialized (according the LBS) has a 4 year warranty on the motor without regard to mileage. And I know Specialized will back it up and be there.
Lot's of other little things. Brakes are super. Haven't missed a shift. Motor quiet with just a bit of whir to know it's working. This bike is fun but challenges me. And there's no mode on the bike that is so powerful and fast that it doesn't feel like a bike. And that's exactly it. In the end - it's a bike. I tried some of the higher torque bikes and just didn't feel true to cycling. And I need that.
Finally, I think it's a bargain at $3600USD. Aluminum feels light and responsive. Beautiful frame and paint too IMO. I'm able to take 3 water bottles or an extra battery. It's only 30 something pounds and can be easily car-racked. The lights are awesome too! I mean - the thing has a computer in it. It talks to my phone. It can go over 50 miles on a charge. It's just the absolute greatest idea and execution. Bravo Specialized!!
Finally - back to CRACK. Sometimes I'm riding and I'll be in ECO - huffing and puffing and feeling good. But then I see the approaching hill. Yeah - I can make it but keep looking over at the mode switch and a little voice inside my head is like - 'You know you want it. Just a press of the button and your legs will feel that slight push of the motor and invigoration... must resist.
It's charged again. Here we go.
