kahn
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I've got the US Aluminum Creo. While there are three spring weights or tensions that can be changed, it is not the Future Shock which has a knob to adjust tension.
Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)
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Stefan Mikes
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It might, or might not. Now, fancy that: You are in my position.
- You order the RedShift ShockStop for US$275
- Now, ShockStop requires using the RS Utility Mount for US$50. It might not be compatible with the Lezyne headlight
- Now, ShockStop requires using the RS Computer Mount for Garmin for another US$50.
Or,
- You just pay Specialized US$840, and get the FutureShock and the CF fork.
Kahn: Do you like FutureShock?
kahn
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I think it takes the "edge" off bumpy and irregular pavement. Our streets are not in the best shape and older asphalt is not smooth. A major street in my neighborhood was just repaved and it is like pedaling on silk. It is just so damn nice. I really have not had a chance to ride on some gravel roads which I have occasionally done on my road bikes. I really was unaware of Future Shock when I was testing the bikes. The salesman showed it to me. I am not sure that I would have paid extra for it as none of my other road bikes had front shocks. I've use the Kinekt seat post for a number of years. When I had my old Trek Madone recently serviced and took it for a ride I was surprised at how harsh the seating felt. I quickly purchased another Kinekt post. So front shocks on a road bike was new to me. I probably would now pay for it.
Rincon
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Thats right. Your E5 comes with the Future Shock 1.5, same as the Vado SL 5.0. The Creo S-Works, Expert, and Comp models all come with the adjustable Future Shock 2.0.
ActionJackson
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For me the criteria would be what provides the best vibration and shock isolation, and if a ~~ $400 premium justifies it. Here’s the dimensions for a GoPro interface - if you have a caliper or really good scale you can measure it on the existing light and eliminate guessing. My bike is delayed until Monday delivery.
rochrunner
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Just for accuracy, I think you mean TCD here. The TDU is the module that's inserted in the top tube. I've also had trouble keeping these straight.
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Cramer Long
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I've ridden an SL with the Future Shock . Both Redshift Sports Kineit do a good replication if not better . Plus get some wider Bars .
Stephan Ritchey makes a mount that attaches to the Stem .
Stefan Mikes
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That's TCU (Turbo Control Unit)
Stefan Mikes
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@VoltMan99: Thank you so much! Everything has been ordered now.
Cramer Long
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I guess Specialize knows what they are doing . Making Money They must laugh when they hook up lights off stems 
Stefan are you going for the go pro mount & redshift stem or the whole Specialized new fork/future shock thingy £££?!
kahn
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Yes, those two INITIAL sets are definitely confusing to some of us!!!
Stefan Mikes
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This. I'll might want to install a stem extender, too (later).
Stefan Mikes
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@RyedaleMike, @Allan47.7339, @VoltMan99 and @Rincon: Thank you so much to make me choose Redshift ShockStop Stem for my Vado SL 4; the thing is just amazing!
The setup instruction found in the box was detailed and precise. I was following the guidelines to the letter (a YouTube video additionally helped). I chose a single blue "70" elastomer piece. Unfortunately, replacing the minimalist and elegant Specialized stem (with integrated light and computer mount) forced me to use a spare TCD/Garmin mount that came with my bike, and a GoPro mount for the Lezyne light. That made my cockpit crammed but no other option was available (at least the Lezyne light is not obscured by stiff cables now...)
The ride impressions are astounding! Whenever you ride onto any road imperfection (a small curb, cracked asphalt, paving blocks, gravel -- including the "washboard" and "crushed rock" type) you know those imperfections are there; you just feel as if you took a massive dose of strong painkiller prior to the ride! Because the ShockStop Stem is about dampening shock, not cancelling it.
Wonderful thing for the money, and far cheaper than Specialized FutureShock with CF fork... (Why would I need a CF fork?!)
P.S. No need for a stem extender. I ride my SL in a forward position and like it.
The setup instruction found in the box was detailed and precise. I was following the guidelines to the letter (a YouTube video additionally helped). I chose a single blue "70" elastomer piece. Unfortunately, replacing the minimalist and elegant Specialized stem (with integrated light and computer mount) forced me to use a spare TCD/Garmin mount that came with my bike, and a GoPro mount for the Lezyne light. That made my cockpit crammed but no other option was available (at least the Lezyne light is not obscured by stiff cables now...)
The ride impressions are astounding! Whenever you ride onto any road imperfection (a small curb, cracked asphalt, paving blocks, gravel -- including the "washboard" and "crushed rock" type) you know those imperfections are there; you just feel as if you took a massive dose of strong painkiller prior to the ride! Because the ShockStop Stem is about dampening shock, not cancelling it.
Wonderful thing for the money, and far cheaper than Specialized FutureShock with CF fork... (Why would I need a CF fork?!)
P.S. No need for a stem extender. I ride my SL in a forward position and like it.
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BioWheel
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Thanks for the write-up and pictures. Wow - you make it sound like an essential upgrade. Certainly looks good.
bW
This has been a really informative thread. Thanks everyone. This front light & stem issue has been annoying me! And this seems a really simple solution. Also Stefan would this mean you could now fit a handlebar bag? Hanging below the bars possibly, where the light used to be? That was another irritation not being able to fit a bag there.
Stefan Mikes
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No Ras, I hate the very concept of the handlebar bagThis has been a really informative thread. Thanks everyone. This front light & stem issue has been annoying me! And this seems a really simple solution. Also Stefan would this mean you could now fit a handlebar bag? Hanging below the bars possibly, where the light used to be? That was another irritation not being able to fit a bag there.
Using a single Ortlieb E-Mate pannier at the drive-side. To protect the rack tubes against rubbing, my brother protected them with some latex stuff, not sure what it is but works nicely!
Stefan Mikes
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@Rás Cnoic:
P.S. If you can find a double sided integrated Garmin/GoPro mount (so the mount is installed on both sides of the stem), the solution will be perfect!
P.S. If you can find a double sided integrated Garmin/GoPro mount (so the mount is installed on both sides of the stem), the solution will be perfect!
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Well, I'm afraid I received some bad news about my possibility of getting my Vado SL 5.0 anytime soon. My dealer was having a Specialized E-bike Demo event this afternoon, with Specialized company reps and techs present to answer questions, etc. First off, I noticed that pretty much all they had were Levos and Lenovos, plus a lone Como and a Creo or two. No Vados at all, SL or otherwise. The reason they gave? They are "hot commodities" right now and every one that's available goes straight to a bike shop (my dealer has no 5.0s on his incoming schedule that goes out about 45 days).
The bad news is that, even though they're building the 5.0s and other SLs right now, there is a big holdup on shipping them over. In addition to the fact that international shipping is a big mess right now (ships sometimes waiting weeks to be unloaded at the ports, having to send ships back empty, etc.), the SL poses a particular problem. Lithium-ion batteries have strict transport regulations that, among other things, requires their being shipped in special (i.e., expensive) containers. With most e-bikes, the batteries are shipped separately in such a container and the rest of the bike is sent in the usual manner. But the non-removable batteries in the SL models require that the entire bike has to be shipped in an approved container, and of course you can't get nearly as many complete bikes inside a container as you could if just shipping the batteries.
The upshot? The guy in the know at Specialized said that if it's not already scheduled to show up, not to expect to see it until 2022! In the long run, I'm perfectly OK with that. I wasn't really ready to go through the whole new-bike thing in the middle of my riding season and was hoping not to get it too soon. I've bought my last few bikes during the winter season when I can take them down to my workshop to go over them closely when I'm not in a hurry and also to accessorize them with the right bottle cages, pedals, etc. And it will give me time to decide how to sell my Vado 4.0.
So now I'll have something to look forward to over the winter and have a reason to get out there as soon as the snow melts! On the other hand, if a stray SL 5.0 happens to show up at a shop within a reasonable distance yet this year...
My dealer was having a Specialized E-bike Demo event this afternoon, with Specialized company reps and techs present to answer questions, etc. First off, I noticed that pretty much all they had were Levos and Lenovos, plus a lone Como and a Creo or two. No Vados at all, SL or otherwise. The reason they gave? They are "hot commodities" right now and every one that's available goes straight to a bike shop (my dealer has no 5.0s on his incoming schedule that goes out about 45 days).The bad news is that, even though they're building the 5.0s and other SLs right now, there is a big holdup on shipping them over. In addition to the fact that international shipping is a big mess right now (ships sometimes waiting weeks to be unloaded at the ports, having to send ships back empty, etc.), the SL poses a particular problem. Lithium-ion batteries have strict transport regulations that, among other things, requires their being shipped in special (i.e., expensive) containers. With most e-bikes, the batteries are shipped separately in such a container and the rest of the bike is sent in the usual manner. But the non-removable batteries in the SL models require that the entire bike has to be shipped in an approved container, and of course you can't get nearly as many complete bikes inside a container as you could if just shipping the batteries.
The upshot? The guy in the know at Specialized said that if it's not already scheduled to show up, not to expect to see it until 2022! In the long run, I'm perfectly OK with that. I wasn't really ready to go through the whole new-bike thing in the middle of my riding season and was hoping not to get it too soon. I've bought my last few bikes during the winter season when I can take them down to my workshop to go over them closely when I'm not in a hurry and also to accessorize them with the right bottle cages, pedals, etc. And it will give me time to decide how to sell my Vado 4.0.
So now I'll have something to look forward to over the winter and have a reason to get out there as soon as the snow melts! On the other hand, if a stray SL 5.0 happens to show up at a shop within a reasonable distance yet this year...
Allan47.7339
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I don't ride with my phone outside of a bag but I've seen the quad lock recommended for a stem mount. It looks like a stem mount will be a bit more protected than forward of the bars.
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