Specialized Turbo Vado/Como/Tero/Tero X User Club

[PaD]

Let me tell you something. Since I started using Smart Control in the Mission Control App, my rides have become fantastic. (There is a separate thread in the Specialized Forum on that).
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Try it yourself: If you feel you are a fit rider, set 100 km or 60 mile distance, your planned elevation gain and perhaps 20% battery left in Smart Control. Vado feeling sluggish? Decrease the planned distance on the spot. Too strong? Increase the distance or the amount of the battery left.

(You can thank me later)

I’ll try it. Just need to check if I’m back to normal now that I can get my original settings.
For planned elevation I guess I enter all ascents and forget about the descents?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

For planned elevation I guess I enter all ascents and forget about the descents?

Precisely. To gain the elevation, you need to gain potential energy ((total mass of the bike+rider+baggage) * elevation gain * gravity) at the cost of the rider's and the battery energy. For example, a total vehicle mass 100 kg with the elevation gain of 1000 metres requires a least 100 * 1000 * 9.81 = 981000 J or 272.5 Wh. However, the motor efficiency is perhaps 80%, and the human efficiency is about 25% meaning a lot of input to ride up all the ascents. On the descents, you typically don't pedal, conserving the energy. The sum of ascents is critical in a hilly area or in mountain biking.

I lent my Vado to my brother now. I used the values of Eco 35/35, Sport 50/50, and Turbo 100/100 for him and asked him not to use the Mission Control. His first commute of 17.5 km took him 29 minutes 21 seconds at the average speed of 35.6 km/h. He rode in the Sport mode, startling drivers with his momentarily speed of 45 km/h His ride was as fast as or faster than with his own car!

P.S. His steady leg power is 150-175 W, while his peak power is 275 W. He weighs 69 kg.

 

[Mark Stubbs]

Yes, I have. It is required in many European countries as most of EU countries treat speed e-bikes as mopeds. In the UK, you are also forced to wear a motorcycle helmet (a cycling helmet elsewhere).

For that reasons speed e-bikes sold in Europe have a lit support for the number plate you cannot remove without removing the tail-light.

Actually it isn't true that we have to wear cycle helmets in the UK. However, speeds are limited to 15mph on e-bikes.

 

[Mark Stubbs]

Anyone got any information on how to de-restrict my Vado 5.0 in the UK please?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Actually it isn't true that we have to wear cycle helmets in the UK. However, speeds are limited to 15mph on e-bikes.

You have to wear a motorcycle helmet if you ride Vado 6.0, which is a 28 mph Euro S-Pedelec L1e-B class.

Anyone got any information on how to de-restrict my Vado 5.0 in the UK please?

Search Planet3 keyword in these Forums. The maker is in Croatia and I hear it is a proven solution.
Oh, OK:

PLANET3 - mechanical e-bike derestriction device. https://planet3.bike/

Has anyone seen or tried this device?

electricbikereview.com

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Need Urgent Information

I need to replace the front thru-axle in my Vado. Questions to @TS25, @Sierratim, @Brendon@TBSM or anyone competent:

• Is this axle the 12x100 mm with 1 mm thread one? Please confirm.
• Do you know what make/model is available in the market?

I need urgent answers.

 

[TS25]

• Is this axle the 12x100 mm with 1 mm thread one? Please confirm.
• Do you know what make/model is available in the market

The rear axle is 12x148mm/1mm but the front axle is 15mm and I fear, Specialized specific.
That's all the info I have at hand.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Ye Ole Goode Specialized...

 

[Captain Slow]

My Creo has a 12 mm front axle. If it is 15 mm for the front axle then that's good news because that is MTB Boost spacing and there are a lot of boost wheelsets on the market with a 15 x 110 front axle and a 12 x 148 rear axle.

 

[Captain Slow]

Stephan does this help?

SWITCH THRU AXLE - THRUAXLE.COM

THRUAXLE, SWITCH THRUAXLE, SWITCH SYSTEM, SWITCH LEVER

www.thruaxle.com

 

[TS25]

Ye Ole Goode Specialized...

So very true.

Just took my front axle out (hat nothing else to do anyway ):
mine is 15mm and of app. 143mm total length, without any info on it.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Stephan does this help?

SWITCH THRU AXLE - THRUAXLE.COM

THRUAXLE, SWITCH THRUAXLE, SWITCH SYSTEM, SWITCH LEVER

www.thruaxle.com

Almost Not only is the product only available in the U.S. (and overseas shipment is not feasible now) but the Specialized thru-axle has also a "specialised" head... I will tell you what the problem is. As the Specialized axle is made of aluminium, the head socket has worn out. Before it was too late, my brother took it out, then threaded the socket, and finally locked (with Loctite Red) an external screw (having a larger hex socket) in the new thread. If that cures well and the axle can be fastened and then removed from the fork, the problem is solved. If not, I'll have to order from Specialized, and I am afraid of the part unavailability, because that's Ye Goode Ole Specialized...

 

[Sierratim]

Ye Ole Goode Specialized...

What's gone wrong with your axle?

My Vado 5 has a front 15mm axle, but it also has a suspension fork. Stefan, I suspect your axle is a 12mm as you have a rigid fork. These aren't available from any of the Euro online bike shops?

In the States the Robert Axle Project at https://robertaxleproject.com/ is a popular source for all things related to through axles. I'd always start with them.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I've just explained the problem above, O Tim from Sierra Nevada!
P.S. Available 12x100 mm axles have the 1.5 mm thread while I need 1 mm...

 

[Sierratim]

I've just explained the problem above, O Tim from Sierra Nevada!
P.S. Available 12x100 mm axles have the 1.5 mm thread while I need 1 mm...

Saw your post with the explanation after my post went up...

I used the Axle Finder page at https://robertaxleproject.com/product/lightning-bolt-on-axle-front-12-mm-x-117-mm-x-1-0-thread/ . Their 12x100 1.0 pitch axle is $42 + shipping I assume. Their support email has been helpful for me in the past.

Hope this helps.

 

[TS25]

What's gone wrong with your axle?

In the States the Robert Axle Project at https://robertaxleproject.com/ is a popular source for all things related to through axles. I'd always start with them.

@Stefan Mikes is taking his front wheel out frequently for transport and the Specialized axle quits this. Other users reported similar problem.

Axles from Robert Axle Project are common even here if you're looking for towing solutions or upgrading.
If they confirm this

lightning-bolt-on-axle-front-12-mm - The Robert Axle Project

Our Lightning Bolt-On thru axles offer the highest quality, simple, lightweight alternative to that bulky handle. Made in USA

robertaxleproject.com

suits Stefans Vado I would go for it.

 

[Sierratim]

@Stefan Mikes is taking his front wheel out frequently for transport and the Specialized axle quits this. Other users reported similar problem.

Axles from Robert Axle Project are common even here if you're looking for towing solutions or upgrading.
If they confirm this

lightning-bolt-on-axle-front-12-mm - The Robert Axle Project

Our Lightning Bolt-On thru axles offer the highest quality, simple, lightweight alternative to that bulky handle. Made in USA

robertaxleproject.com

suits Stefans Vado I would go for it.

Their shipping to Poland is ~$20 for the 12x100 1.0 pitch axle.

My sons use their axles for towing trailers to help with local MTb trail maintenance.

 

[TS25]

Their shipping to Poland is ~$20 for the 12x100 1.0 pitch axle.

This source in Germany

The Robert Axle Project - Lightning Steckachse für Vorderrad - 12x100mm - M12x1,0 117/123mm - LIG506

The Robert Axle Project ▶ 12x100 mm Vorderrad Steckachse mit M12x1.0 mm Gewinde. 117/123 mm Länge. ▶ Ausführung: M12x1,0 117/123mm - LIG506

www.bike24.de

has it available for 43€ + 10€ shipping to PL, and no duty hassle.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

This source in Germany

The Robert Axle Project - Lightning Steckachse für Vorderrad - 12x100mm - M12x1,0 117/123mm - LIG506

The Robert Axle Project ▶ 12x100 mm Vorderrad Steckachse mit M12x1.0 mm Gewinde. 117/123 mm Länge. ▶ Ausführung: M12x1,0 117/123mm - LIG506

www.bike24.de

has it available for 43€ + 10€ shipping to PL, and no duty hassle.

Thank you! Thank you very much!
The price doesn't matter. There are problems with overseas shipment nowadays but purchase from Germany is easy!

 

[Mark Stubbs]

Nice!

where are bar end grips from?