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[edobici_forza]

So how does that 10 lb weight difference actually manifest while riding? Do you notice it more in handling and responsiveness, or in climbing? How about with both bikes in OFF?

I'll share a spreadsheet that might be of interest shortly. It estimates power losses and rider power requirements for 3 cases — my 38 lb SL as ridden, then the same bike with first 5 kg and then 10 kg magically removed. No other changes.

Sneak preview: A 10 kg weight difference affects rider power requirements less than you might think — even in climbing.

I don't know. but I feel the extra weight under me in responsiveness. I have been riding stronger than ever so I am out of the saddle and pumping up some inclines with low power. The baseline 31lb bike feels great. Doing the same, loaded with RE battery and water and rack+bag is noticeable. Not terrible. but noticeable. Then when I ride my 19lb Hakka it feels like a feather!

 

[fooferdoggie]

Good to hear you're putting that behind you!

ya its better watching my HR compared to the effort has really let me know how I am doing.

 

[edobici_forza]

I've never seen that side by side bottle cage set up before. Ingenious with a range extender. My Vado SL has bosses under the top tube so I've a cage there, but it always feels a bit weird, the bottle being upside down.

Re the weight; I'm guessing the water and RE account for a lot of the extra weight. Dread to think what my Vado is when equally saddled up, it's base is around 37lbs.

@Rás Cnoic, I installed the Wolf Tooth side by side adapter the night before the ride. Wolf Tooth is awesome... they have so many good ideas. I already had the B-Rad 2 base to allow my water bottle to move down so I could fit a frame bag on my Hakka. So this side by side adapter was added to that, but you do not need the B-rad but I wanted to move the bottles a little higher.
The big question ... Don't you hit the bottles when pedaling? No. They are not in the way. I do brush the bottles with my knees, on rare occasion when dismounting or very technical riding. but it has not been a problem.

 

[edobici_forza]

Pretty Pinarello Prince. The owner keeps it up well.

Inquiring minds...

 

[Rás Cnoic]

@Rás Cnoic, I installed the Wolf Tooth side by side adapter the night before the ride. Wolf Tooth is awesome... they have so many good ideas. I already had the B-Rad 2 base to allow my water bottle to move down so I could fit a frame bag on my Hakka. So this side by side adapter was added to that, but you do not need the B-rad but I wanted to move the bottles a little higher.
The big question ... Don't you hit the bottles when pedaling? No. They are not in the way. I do brush the bottles with my knees, on rare occasion when dismounting or very technical riding. but it has not been a problem.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it.