I use the moto-x and I have managed to stuff in Mr Tuffy strip, tannus armour inserts and a scwalbe air plus inner tube. Believe me, after all that is crammed into the tyre the thickness of the tube made no difference. I cannot honestly say I notice any difference in the ride feel. I found thorns kept going straight through the Tannus but the Mr Tuffy strip m as long as it is really accurately placed. Last summer I got punctured by a thorn and it went through exactly the one place where the strip had slid round to the side a little bit. For fitting, get some very good metal insert Park Tools levers, plus I bought all the tyre fitting devices I could find on Amazon. As the tyres age they become much more wiling.