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[6zfshdb]

6zfshdb
I am glad you find these 4/5 bladed pins are easy to find,
I have been attempting for the last several days to find
the outside to outside width/distance of the 4/5 blade pins
plugs.

All, I get back is send a photo, so we can match it up.

I have requested the O/S to O/S distance/spacing of the metal pins,
as I need a .750" and 1.125" outside spacing/distance for the metal prongs.

I have some others that are NOT the same spacing, as above.

I have given up finding this info in over 10 different email to 10 different sellers.
I'll figure a work around to do what I want to do.
ymmv

Tia,
Don

Perhaps "fairly easy to find" was a poor choice of words in that post.
Yes, there are many "flavors" of these spade connectors and there appears to be no set standard. I went through much of what you describe before finding a match for mine. In addition to the spacing, there are also thickness, width and length variations to consider. I altered several to fit with a Dremel tool before finding an exact replacement. Not much you can do about the spacing though.

On one occasion, I cut up a 5 pin, shaved off some of the plastic mount and epoxied it back together with the proper 4 pin spacing. I'm still using it for an external application, since it won't fit in the battery or mount housings.

Through trial & error, I found my Pedego, Hailong & Reention / Dorado batteries use this 4 pin connector:

https://www.amazon.com/EIFDUHP-Battery-Connector-Discharge-Hailong/dp/B0DK565LL7/ref=asc_df_B0DK565LL7?mcid=50711d2d338b393dab171fcd2795e5ed&hvocijid=9836817842670501910-B0DK565LL7-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9836817842670501910&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9058761&hvtargid=pla-2281435177658&th=1&psc=1

There is also a 5 pin version.

Amazon.com : Kqcibz 1Pair EBike Battery Power Discharge Connector 5 Pins Connector 5Pins Male and Female Battery Power Plug for Hailong E-Bike Cycling Parts, Black & Silver : Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com : Kqcibz 1Pair EBike Battery Power Discharge Connector 5 Pins Connector 5Pins Male and Female Battery Power Plug for Hailong E-Bike Cycling Parts, Black & Silver : Sports & Outdoors

www.amazon.com

The dimensions of the 4 pin are as shown, but don't appear to be what you're looking for:

I'm not sure if you're looking for a 4 or 5 pin, but you may be able to use the above dimensions to extrapolate the dimensions of the 5 pin connector.

 

[Gionnirocket]

I've heard it's not the size of your blade but the voltage behind it that's important

 

[6zfshdb]

I've heard it's not the size of your blade but the voltage behind it that's important

Depends if you're AC or DC.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Depends if you're AC or DC.

Or Both!

 

[Nvreloader]

6zfshdb
Thanks for the info,
I am looking for a .750" = 4 pin and
a 1.125" = 5 pin type ends, with the female ends.

I have the 4 and 5 pins that you show,
I just may make a saw cuts between the center pins
to reduce the spacing for the 4/5 pin.

I have 2 different widths of 4 pin spacing on the 5 battery's
in 48v & 52v and neither plug fits the 4 pins/slots.

All of my battery's only require the Pos and Neg pins for the outside slots to work, no center pins are connected to anything inside the battery, it's just finding the correct spacing of the pins to fit the slots.

It would seem to me, that the sellers/suppliers would have dimensional drawings showing these spec's. I have yet to see one
with numerous replies/questions. Hard to believe.
Thanks

 

[Nvreloader]

6zfshdb

What kind of epoxy did you use to build your plugs,
I am tired of attempting to find the correct spacing
plugs to fit all my battery's.

I'll machine out a holder for the correct spacing and
fit the proper/correct pin to it, then use epoxy to
make the plug.

I have to make 2 different width spacings for the 4 pins,
I have some hardwood blocks to use as forms and will mill
away the wood form after the epoxy sets up.

I can use all the parts from the NONE fitting 4/5 pins plugs
I have, as parts for the making of the correct spacing plugs
to fit everything.

Tia.

 

[PCeBiker]

These 4 and 5 pin spade type connectors can collect dirt and the anti corrosive plating wears off over time.

My old POS ebike had the same type of battery connector that was all smashed on both the battery and ebike.

I just bypassed everything and soldered in extension cords to connect the batteries to the controller,..

 

[6zfshdb]

6zfshdb

What kind of epoxy did you use to build your plugs,
I am tired of attempting to find the correct spacing
plugs to fit all my battery's.

I'll machine out a holder for the correct spacing and
fit the proper/correct pin to it, then use epoxy to
make the plug.

I have to make 2 different width spacings for the 4 pins,
I have some hardwood blocks to use as forms and will mill
away the wood form after the epoxy sets up.

I can use all the parts from the NONE fitting 4/5 pins plugs
I have, as parts for the making of the correct spacing plugs
to fit everything.

Tia.

I use J-B Weld:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IBOK7FE?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_7&th=1

It bonds well to most plastics and is rigid enough to mold around contacts to hold them in place. Also good for "potting" components.

I also use this acrylic plexiglass sheeting with the J-B Weld to make various parts:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072J4J6MP?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1

 

[PCeBiker]

I use J-B Weld:

I just bought some regular JB Weld a week ago,..

The Permatex Plastic Weld was $5 cheaper than JB, so I got that instead.
(Permatex is a trusted brand name as well)

The Shoe Goo was on sale for $7 a tube a few weeks ago, so I just 4 tubes of the stuff.

Shoe Goo is awesome stuff too.
I just glued my flashing LED light to my rack bag with the stuff,..

The light came with a rubber strap, but I couldn't find a good place to mount it, so I just glued the bracket to my rack bag.

The Shoe Goo sticks to just about anything and is really durable with a bit of rubbery flex to it.
It's tougher than silicone.

 

[PCeBiker]

are those "LA" batteries?

No, they were built in China.
I don't know what kind of batteries they use in Hollywood.


They are AGM (absorbed glass mat) spill proof lead acid batteries.

But the original battery case had the same type of connectors.
The battery case itself was also broken and half the screws that held it together had broken through the plastic.

It was a heavier battery than a lithium ion equivalent, but they never bothered to upgrade the connectors or the contacts in the ebike design.

There are heavy duty spring loaded electrical connectors that could be used, as well as forklift battery type connectors.

My original battery actually had some half decent spring loaded electrical contacts, but the plastic that held everything together was all smashed to pieces.

Proper, durable connectors are even more important with lithium batteries, and there is better plastic that can be used that doesn't melt.
High quality, high heat proof plastic doesn't melt, it burns instead, and at a Much Higher temperature.

 

[Nvreloader]

Mr Caspan
When you get your battery plugs,
Can you please let us know what the outside to outside distance
if the flat blade pins are, on that brand/type of plug.
Thanks,

 

[MrCaspan]

Mr Caspan
When you get your battery plugs,
Can you please let us know what the outside to outside distance
if the flat blade pins are, on that brand/type of plug.
Thanks,

100% I have a digital caliper and I'll return with details once I get it!

 

[MrCaspan]

Okay I took my measurements at the bottom of the pins as the top of the pins have some movement

This is the male part that is on my bike that I just got from Biktrix so the female on the battery part measurements I ordered should be close to this but ill give measurements for this when I get it also

Pin to Pin Inside is ~0.200"
Pin to Pin Outside is ~0.325"
Pin Width is ~0.06"
Half a Pin width is ~0.03"

So to get the center Pin to Pin I take take the outside measurement and subtract half of each pin width 0.325" - 0.03" - 0.03" = ~0.265

0.265" SHOULD be the measurement

Hope I did that math right and hope this helps!

 

[Nvreloader]

Okay I took my measurements at the bottom of the pins as the top of the pins have some movement

This is the male part that is on my bike that I just got from Biktrix so the female on the battery part measurements I ordered should be close to this but ill give measurements for this when I get it also

Pin to Pin Inside is ~0.200"
Pin to Pin Outside is ~0.325"
Pin Width is ~0.06"
Half a Pin width is ~0.03"

So to get the center Pin to Pin I take take the outside measurement and subtract half of each pin width 0.325" - 0.03" - 0.03" = ~0.265

0.265" SHOULD be the measurement

Hope I did that math right and hope this helps!

Caspan
Thank you for those measurements.
From the measurement photo #1 (L >R),
this is the way I measured my plug and got a reading of
.750" outside to outside.

Your plug measurements,
.857"
- .750" (my plug measurements)
= .107 difference to wide.

Your plug is .107" too wide to fit my battery's = )(*&^%##,
I was hoping it would be close to the same as I needed?

I think, I'll just cut the plug base in half,
and remove the 2 center pins,
and shorten the width up to .750",
(I only need the + and - pins on the outside of the plug
to work for the rest of my battery's I want to use.)

Then use some epoxy to glue the 2 halves together,
at the correct spacing width of the 2 outside pins.

I know, I have spent at least 10+ hrs searching,
sending emails etc and still can't find the correct sized plugs.
Thank you for your time and trouble.

 

[6zfshdb]

Okay I took my measurements at the bottom of the pins as the top of the pins have some movement

This is the male part that is on my bike that I just got from Biktrix so the female on the battery part measurements I ordered should be close to this but ill give measurements for this when I get it also

Pin to Pin Inside is ~0.200"
Pin to Pin Outside is ~0.325"
Pin Width is ~0.06"
Half a Pin width is ~0.03"

So to get the center Pin to Pin I take take the outside measurement and subtract half of each pin width 0.325" - 0.03" - 0.03" = ~0.265

0.265" SHOULD be the measurement

Hope I did that math right and hope this helps!

That appears to be identical to the one I linked above:

https://www.amazon.com/EIFDUHP-Battery-Connector-Discharge-Hailong/dp/B0DK565LL7/ref=asc_df_B0DK565LL7?mcid=50711d2d338b393dab171fcd2795e5ed&hvocijid=9836817842670501910-B0DK565LL7-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9836817842670501910&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9058761&hvtargid=pla-2281435177658&th=1&psc=1

 

[Gionnirocket]

That appears to be identical to the one I linked above:

https://www.amazon.com/EIFDUHP-Battery-Connector-Discharge-Hailong/dp/B0DK565LL7/ref=asc_df_B0DK565LL7?mcid=50711d2d338b393dab171fcd2795e5ed&hvocijid=9836817842670501910-B0DK565LL7-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9836817842670501910&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9058761&hvtargid=pla-2281435177658&th=1&psc=1

 

[Nvreloader]

I took apart my 5 pin battery base on my Biktrix Juggs 4 bike,
(battery slides into and locks the battery to the bike),

I found these numbers molded into the battery discharge parts,
Retention??<(hard to read), PLA-2099 and PLA-2049.

I used the above numbers and failed to find any information
pertaining to the 5 pin discharge connectors.
Back to researching.....

 

[Chazmo]

Do you know why the port melted? That would be my biggest concern about continuing to use the battery. Sharp discharges can weaken/damage things in ways that are a bit dangerous. Is that where your battery connects to the controller wiring? If not, I’d seal that off completely. See,

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[MrCaspan]

Do you know why the port melted?

No clue, I am guessing there was junk in the port that caused a small disconnect. I didn't take my battery off all summer so it's possible very small arcs were happening just built up heat over time over and over. Not sure how else it could have melted unless there was too much current was flowing through it, but I do trust Biktrix and their controller but all I can do is replace the parts and see if the issue happens again. I have no ability to isolate or test all these other components to make sure they didn't cause the issue.

 

[Gionnirocket]

That type of failure is common with ebike batteries and it's typically caused by contamination and/or poor vibration isolation.