Exactly this. The routing in OpenStreetMap is pretty bad. The kind of control you get is to choose a 'fastest', 'mtb' or 'scenic' route as if someone actually did any sort of research on which route is scenic.
The threat of theft has been the main thing holding me back from getting an ebike so when I read about the RX-Connect GPS service I was quite excited. In looking at their 2019 catalogue, however, it appears that RX-Connect may only be made available in Germany this year! I asked at my local dealer and he said that they may offer it on more than just the Nevo and that it may be offered in more countries than Germany but he was unable to reach his sales contact to confirm anything. Here's a link to the 2019 catalogue.
I think you are right that R&M want to roll it out slowly. Vanmoof trialled a similar subscription in 2016 and it's been so successful that now they're offering it to buyers around the world. They call their team "Vanmoof Bike Hunters" and they have a cool story of tracking down a bike theft ring to Casablanca. I'm curious to find out if you buy a bike in Germany and ride it across the border to France whether the R&M bike hunters will still be able to track it down if it's stolen in France? I'm guessing they'd be able to with the EU roaming laws? I'm also curious to know whether the GPS tracker placed in the German bikes this year will be the same as the one that will be place in French bikes next year, meaning that if a French person bought a German bike with RX-Connect this year then they would be able to use it next year and they would only have to risk one year without the added insurance.
Not sure about that. I just noticed that R&M Delite is no longer available with a Nyon — only Intuvia and Kiox.
as you say, probably bosch will not continue nyon's development in some future but in the meantime, just a few months ago, they have punctually relased their annual update for the ebike connect portal, the app and maps too. Personally I would not return to a intuvia's style solution even if someone gives me money. I had the opportunity, before buying nyon, to take a look at cobi and I was so disappointed for the quality of the plastic materials and for having to use a phone of my own. With nyon you also have a tidier and more elegant handlebar area. Cobi's lights did not appear anything super powerful or exceptional. If I fall and break the cobi, I would not even have a phone to call for help. Nyon offers a series of in-depth, customizable and reliable data related to heartbeat (it interacts perfectly with many brands of heartbands), power, rpm, speed, etc, etc. Readability of the screen is fantastic both in the sun and when it is dark, not all phones to use with cobi allows this. Regarding maps, as someone has already said, nyon tends to take you often off road, even if you set the 'quick' way, For someone it may be a problem but for me it is a pleasure (except when my bike is extra loaded with side bags). Like @Alaskan said it is so simple to create your own route with a third software (i use komoot) and then import gpx to bosch web portal. Considering a long trip I do not think there are alternative solutions that offer same functionalities and reliability. Until today I have never had a freeze or a reset. Moreover, nyon is the only one that offers possibility to edit bosch' assistance values as you please, editing standard settings with customizable ones you can set in the menu. which other system let you do this?
Hi dbhelix, I read your words with great interest, mine were not expressly directed to you.
I understand that in the US nyon is not supported, although and probably if one item is not sold in my country I would not do any strange rounds to get it but I would focus on alternatives, as you did with cobi. In any case in europe the nyon is sold, supported and still works great and better than any alternative.
But let me better understand this thing of your lost data, deleted by whom and how? and what features would be limited or suppressed and how it relates to the loss of personal data on bosch's ebike-connect portal?
I (and bike shop who sold my R&M) have updated everything quickly and without hiccups, no loss data at all.
Maybe it's me that have not understood because of my poor english: the mask to which you refer of the nyon what part would it be? an aftermarket accessory or an original part of nyon? because I have no mask that can detach or pop away from the nyon, it feels like a solid, well assembled unique piece that, as you well know, applies exactly same as intuvia. Can be that your nyon was defective and not well assembled?
Concerning import of gpx data you can also create long tours and import them at once before leaving home. Or import it splitting the route for day by day use. Personally, when traveling for more than a weekend i carry a tablet with me for other reasons so I have no problems to do this operation during the journey. I suppose you can do this also visiting ebike connect portal from a smartphone. In any case it is not mandatory to import gpx data created by other platforms, you can use directly paths created by nyon at the moment, ok also the fast route tends a little to the offroad but not so much as not to be considered reliable. in short, I do not see it as an insurmountable problem, and you would still have this same problem using any alternative to nyon.
But, like you said, Nyon in US is not supported so i feel to fully suggest it just for users that lives in country where nyon is officialy sold.
I am fairly certain that Nyon uses my home wifi to receive routes that have been created and saved on the ebike connect web portal. However Nyon also connects to my android phone via Bluetooth.
