Gionnirocket
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I am curious about the the product... it's the method of release that I'm knocking.Before you knock them why don't you just wait until the details are released?
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New motor: Made in Canada, 2022 Mid-drive system
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m@Robertson
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I was only bringing up the Cyc as I have experience with it and its motor core is capable of a godawfully high rpm limit (12k is really not where you want to run it... but it can run at 6k routinely which is still a hell of a lot). High rpm limits coupled to great big cogs in the back equal a motor that can propel you at slow speeds and fast ones, which is the secret sauce for single speed after mixing in a generous supply of amps.
Another example that is now sadly gone is the Tangent Ascent, which was another 6k-10k unit.. Inside the Ascent - its heart - was the Astroflight 3210 electric motor, which if someone else were to use it would make a pretty good, strong hi rpm basis for a mid drive.
Kranked Performance has another mature, hi rpm design thats been around for awhile but is very low profile - thanks to its price in part, I am sure. Very small and very powerful (and also Canadian, which has me wondering if there's any collaboration here).
Deacon Blues
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The great REVEAL DAY is drawing to a close and no reveal.
Mulezen
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14 ebike manufacturers take on Valeo's impressive auto-shift drive unit
French company Valeo is a vast and formidable entity doing some 20 billion euros' worth of business as a global automotive parts supplier, so when it announced in 2020 that it was planning to revolutionize the ebike world, people sat up and listened.
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TomD
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That valeo sytstem looks very promising (especially as they seem to be thinking of more than just the eruo market). Too bad at CES 2022 they only seemed to have provided test rides to 2 guys that never had ridden an ebike before, at least that's all the shows up on youtube.
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I love the idea of an integrated gearbox, Unfortunately, so far as far as I know the Valeo / Effigear system will be limited to 350W sustained. Only peak above that....
Deafcat
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Perhaps it's a Biktrix and Watt Wagons collaboration, that would explain the delay.
Seriously though, Deafcat hinted last night it was taking longer than expected to pull the media / website materials together.
Yep still working on it, thanks for your patience everyone!
Maybe we can hit 22:00 hrs
onlineaddy
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Go live at 22:22!Maybe we can hit 22:00 hrs
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We aren’t talking SpaceX here … er .. ah … oh .. yeah I seem to recall a few postponements there.The great REVEAL DAY is drawing to a close and no reveal.
you guys are brutal. A bunch of cackling hags waiting for the airship to fail. … er nevermind.
TomD
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Nope, up to 750W sustained, 1000W peak, 130nm torque.
Edit: see video (specs mentioned 45 seconds or so into the video for US market):
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Gionnirocket
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Seems like a much more streamline and desirable solution addressing the same set of problems.
Deacon Blues
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So now we're "cackling hags".........Bubba butthead....
TomD
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I'd say completely different animals though. The Valeo would be consumer mainstream and the other enthusiast off-road. Not sure one would be optimal for the other and vice versa.
Gionnirocket
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As is at the moment... But what if you up'd the wattage in the Valeo design.
I'm sorry but the dual drive train looks like an overcomplicated monster... and is it really necessary?
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Imo... The solution to the current drive train problems is a bullet proof IGH or something like the Valeo.
Simplicity.
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scrambler
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If that happens then it will be a nice mid range solution.
I am eager to see how their automatic gearing works too
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Deacon Blues
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I like the idea of having a motor powering the rear wheel via a really heavy duty chain.
I have a Watt Wagons UC Pro, with an Ultra motor that puts out 2300 Watts. I try to take it easy when applying power, but I suspect it's only a matter of (short) time until I need to replace my chain and cassette..
I have a Watt Wagons UC Pro, with an Ultra motor that puts out 2300 Watts. I try to take it easy when applying power, but I suspect it's only a matter of (short) time until I need to replace my chain and cassette..
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