Looking for recommendation for cheap ebike. Probably asking the impossible.

Tinker

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A friend of mine tried my qualisports dolphin and fell in love with it.
Requirements - some sort of low or step through frame would be good, she says she doesn't want to spend more than $500 which I've told her is very low and she'll probably have to spend a bit more.
I'm looking at the ecotric peacedove or starfish but I'd appreciate any recommendations.
 
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ebay or Amazon KIT $320+ 10Ah Chinese ebay battery $200
All you have to do is put it all together.
Viola !!

How long will it last is anyones guess. But a year is a reasonable expectation. With very good care, maybe two.
 
The Peacedove and Starfish, now selling around $649, have a basic 3 level pedal assist. The big complaint, especially with older riders, is that level 1 is too fast, usually set above 10 mph. I believe they have done something with the Starfish to lower the level 1 speed, but could be wrong. I recall that the EBR reviewer really praised Qualisports for having a less aggressive, very smooth assist, so your friend might be disappointed with other low end bikes. However, most people do get used to it.

On these imports, I believe the generic 36V 10-12AH ebike batteries run close to $100 USD at cost. and the bikes are produced for $200, allowing an imported like Ecotric to have a nice margin and also be fairly generous with warranty. On the Ecotric facebook user groups, most users report getting replacement components fairly easily. What they don't get is expertise in finding out what was really wrong or any help in installing. A hands-on person who understands how to change tires won't have much problem with that, I've had an Ecotric bike for two years w/o any issues, except that it's a fat tire bike and I;d rather ride my other ones. I like smaller ebikes like your Qualisport. We have four of them.

I'd tell your friend to get a Qualisports. By the way, does the battery interfer with how low you can lower your seat?

If you're a facebook user you could join the Ecotric Ebike Fan Club and the Ecotric Bicycle Owners Group (administered by Ecotric) to get owner opinions.

Ancheer sells a $599 folding electric bike on Amazon. They have been around a lot longer than Ecotric and apparently succeeded without doing much customer support at all. I'd be more wary of them. It's not impossible to get an inexpensive ebike, but it helps if you know how to fix a bike, and also understand electricity. Yeah, that rules out lots of people.
 
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A friend of mine tried my qualisports dolphin and fell in love with it.
She's an older larger woman so some sort of low or step through frame would be good, she says she doesn't want to spend more than $500 which I've told her is very low and she'll probably have to spend a bit more.
I'm looking at the ecotric peacedove or starfish but I'd appreciate any recommendations.
$500? Nmmm, I don´t think so. There are some pretty reliable, affordable bikes in the $1000 to $1500 range,
but $500 is a bit dubious. She might get lucky; but the odds aren´t great. I´m on an NCM moscow, $1059,
but one should really have bike maintenance experience for this ride. My only issues in 3500 mi. have
been tire related, but it does need regular tuning. I just looked a the Areal Rideal, $1k, I think it comes in
a step thu as well. Pretty basic, solid, good value for the price. If her terrain isn´t too drastic, she might
look at a scooter-like Rad Runner, lots of after mkt options, established support base. I´m sure there are
other bikes that suit her needs, but more info on those needs would help.
 
The Peacedove and Starfish, now selling around $649, have a basic 3 level pedal assist. The big complaint, especially with older riders, is that level 1 is too fast, usually set above 10 mph. I believe they have done something with the Starfish to lower the level 1 speed, but could be wrong. I recall that the EBR reviewer really praised Qualisports for having a less aggressive, very smooth assist, so your friend might be disappointed with other low end bikes. However, most people do get used to it.

On these imports, I believe the generic 36V 10-12AH ebike batteries run close to $100 USD at cost. and the bikes are produced for $200, allowing an imported like Ecotric to have a nice margin and also be fairly generous with warranty. On the Ecotric facebook user groups, most users report getting replacement components fairly easily. What they don't get is expertise in finding out what was really wrong or any help in installing. A hands-on person who understands how to change tires won't have much problem with that, I've had an Ecotric bike for two years w/o any issues, except that it's a fat tire bike and I;d rather ride my other ones. I like smaller ebikes like your Qualisport. We have four of them.

I'd tell your friend to get a Qualisports. By the way, does the battery interfer with how low you can lower your seat?

If you're a facebook user you could join the Ecotric Ebike Fan Club and the Ecotric Bicycle Owners Group (administered by Ecotric) to get owner opinions.

Ancheer sells a $599 folding electric bike on Amazon. They have been around a lot longer than Ecotric and apparently succeeded without doing much customer support at all. I'd be more wary of them. It's not impossible to get an inexpensive ebike, but it helps if you know how to fix a bike, and also understand electricity. Yeah, that rules out lots of people.
Ancheer......Ha ha ha ha! I spose basic mechanical know-how might keep one rolling for quite a spell,
maybe even under power.😜
 
Ancheer......Ha ha ha ha! I spose basic mechanical know-how might keep one rolling for quite a spell,
maybe even under power.😜
Ancheer the question. I have assembled and worked on these bikes. They are a toy facsimile of an electric bike. For example the battery pack is in a sack hanging off the front of the handlebar, throwing the steering off. Every time it goes over a bump it loosens the stem. I wouldn't use this grade of nuts and bolts on a wheelbarrow. It is possible to be so cheep that it is a total waste of money. The battery management system is almost non-existent on these bikes so charging must be done on a timer or it could catch on fire. It is worth it to at least spend the money for a Rad. Even though they weigh a ton and cannot do sustained climbs. At least they will not fall apart and have decent tires.
 
in that range i dont see how you can beat Ecotric and their CS is better than some of the competition.
 
Ancheer the question. I have assembled and worked on these bikes. They are a toy facsimile of an electric bike. For example the battery pack is in a sack hanging off the front of the handlebar, throwing the steering off. Every time it goes over a bump it loosens the stem. I wouldn't use this grade of nuts and bolts on a wheelbarrow. It is possible to be so cheep that it is a total waste of money. The battery management system is almost non-existent on these bikes so charging must be done on a timer or it could catch on fire. It is worth it to at least spend the money for a Rad. Even though they weigh a ton and cannot do sustained climbs. At least they will not fall apart and have decent tires.

I'll let you know. He who dies with the most "toys" wins !
PLENTY YouTube videos where people have bought and assembled cheap Amazon or ebay ebike kits and enjoyed them for years.
A gal down the street spent $2000 on her top quality ebike and it was put to the curb as garbage just into the third year.

The LiFePo4 battery has performed very well so far. The BMS has cut it off at both the high and low end exactly as expected. 18.5Ah at a 16Amp load. not bad.
I also love the fact that I can also use my 1kw battery for power during power outages. Different strokes for .......
If this turns out to be a hobby those buying them want to continue, they can always upgrade.

No need to be hostile towards those not wanting to go further in the beginning.
Check out some of the MANY positive reviews on YouTube of the "toy" ebike kits on YouTube.

PS
If the kit really does turn out to be a cheap pile of garbage, believe me, I'll make it known and laugh. I've accidentally lost more cash in the grocery store than this bike cost.
 
I doubt that she could do much better than ecotric in that price range. You get what you pay for but I know of one guy who has a similar price low step Nakto bike, has been riding it for at least a few years and has had nothing but good things to say about it. A bike doesn't have to be expensive to be functional, I have a Walmart folder and a Walmart 700c hybrid, they are both good functional bikes. I put Tongsheng TSDZ2 mid drives on both of them (power them with cheap Amazon sourced batteries) and ride them regularly.

Does your friend have a regular bike already that she likes?
 
I doubt that she could do much better than ecotric in that price range. You get what you pay for but I know of one guy who has a similar price low step Nakto bike, has been riding it for at least a few years and has had nothing but good things to say about it. A bike doesn't have to be expensive to be functional, I have a Walmart folder and a Walmart 700c hybrid, they are both good functional bikes. I put Tongsheng TSDZ2 mid drives on both of them (power them with cheap Amazon sourced batteries) and ride them regularly.

Does your friend have a regular bike already that she likes?

The ebike was her only bike.
She gave up on bikes after that.

I forgot the name brand but it was purchased from a high end ebike store locally and cost a fortune (imo)
 
I doubt that she could do much better than ecotric in that price range. You get what you pay for but I know of one guy who has a similar price low step Nakto bike, has been riding it for at least a few years and has had nothing but good things to say about it. A bike doesn't have to be expensive to be functional, I have a Walmart folder and a Walmart 700c hybrid, they are both good functional bikes. I put Tongsheng TSDZ2 mid drives on both of them (power them with cheap Amazon sourced batteries) and ride them regularly.

Does your friend have a regular bike already that she likes?
A kit is a real option; I have one that outlived the bike it was on, still in good working order. But... whose
gonna install it for her? Even so, with a battery, it will probably exceed $500 by a good deal. Financing
a bike isn´t near the burden of buying a car
 
If it wasn't clear, I do own an Ecotric fat tire folder, and they make a stepthru fat 20" called the Ecotric Dolphin, about $869 right now because it's a seller's market. This bike used to be about $750. I was impressed by my Ecotric. Very strong, but noisy motor. Probably get 30+ miles out of the 36V battery. Has throttle and the 3 level PAS, which is a bit fast, as described earlier. When the battery is half used up though, or with a heavy rider, it's slower. Tradeoff is that it's heavy, like all of these fat folders. I ride mine when I'm looking for a pedaling jaunt, like when I'm tired. Paid $700 for mine, kess than buying a motor kit, battery and a bike,
 
There's always the good old Jetson Bolt Pro, which you can get in almost every metro area or online. Some recently rec'd this to me but I can't vouch for it.
 
The ebike was her only bike.
She gave up on bikes after that.

I forgot the name brand but it was purchased from a high end ebike store locally and cost a fortune (imo)
2000 aint really high end, more mid priced
 
A friend of mine tried my qualisports dolphin and fell in love with it.
She's an older larger woman so some sort of low or step through frame would be good, she says she doesn't want to spend more than $500 which I've told her is very low and she'll probably have to spend a bit more.
I'm looking at the ecotric peacedove or starfish but I'd appreciate any recommendations.
i think the best thing you can do for your friend is convince her to spend a little more money, she will have more choice at $1000
 
You can get a Hyper ebike from Walmart.
Currently it's $578, however I've seen it down to $398 (that probably won't happen again though, as ebike demand increasing).

It's actually great value on it's very low price. Like everything Walmart sells, they want everyone to have one, especially people that would never buy an ebike at all because of typical price.

Hyper has been making Walmart bicycles for decades and rank among the other big-box out there like Schwinn, CCM, Nakamura, Infinity, Huffy, Next.

The frame is built well as any factory produced bike.

The simple 3 level PA is easy to select for those on their first ebike. They don't have throttle switches, mostly to keep it simple and worldwide legal.

I don't include the Jetson bolt as a "bicycle", it's more categorized as a e-scooter. The Jetson was designed for throttle use, it has great level responsive throttle like any carb link. Pedalling is a one-speed fixie that is meant to get you home upon battery depletion.

Comparing a Hyper ebike to a R&M is unfair and out of line. It would be like some Specialized S-Works road snob laughing down on some teen that just brought a brand new $89 Movelo mountain bike.

I heard that one of the best thing about Hyper is, if you're not happy with it, they have an excellent return policy... because Walmart.
Out of curiosity, I did buy one. I simply had to see how they could make a ebike THAT cheap.

After I was done with it, flipping it for profit was a lot more fun than returning it.

And I did it again a few more times :D
 
I want to sincerely thank everyone for their replies.
I went to tell her about the Ecotric and she'd completely lost interest, I feel a heel for not replying sooner.
I will relate the walmart option to her to see if it'll rekindle her interest.
 
The fickle friend of Tinker might have lost interest, but for those following this thread, Michael Yuen did commendably thorough reviews of these two very compelling-for-the-price bikes.


 
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