Looking for a cadence sensor commuting bike-where did they all go?

[Gionnirocket]

Because it is a simple system where the controller only checks whether the crank and the rear wheel are rotating then provide constant motor power per the assistance level. The "cadence" system even doesn't measure the cadence! Only the crank movement.

So not true yet you always speak with authority on matters you know nothing about. Bafang BBS* cadence sensor bikes set PAS by a specific cadence that is user adjustable.

It is an On-Off system with constant power delivery. Nothing depends on how you pedal the bike.

Again wrong

A simple torque system only measures how hard you stomp on the pedals. It does not take into account how fast you are rotating the cranks. Another primitive system.

Your Bosch is not just a torque system. It also measures the cadence, calculates the rider's power input and does many other sophisticated things

So does my Bafang torque/cadence mid drive.. so once again you think you have something so SPECIALized. I think most advanced torque sensor mid drives take cadence into account.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

At half the cost of your non-primitive system.

It is only the money. Are we "cheap"? Did we work for the whole life to think cheap?

You ride a Tesoro Neo. Why not a cheap no-name?

 

[stompandgo]

The life is too short to waste it on inferior things.

You're sounding like an elitist. Don't so that.

 

[DaveMatthews]

The life is too short to waste it on inferior things.

Then buy some Clik valves.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

The life is too short to waste it on inferior things.

Do you have the best house in all of Warsaw? Wear the very best clothes? Eat at Michelin star restaurants every night? Why not?

 

[Gionnirocket]

And now it's time for another episode of let's

with Stefan

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Do you have the best house in all of Warsaw? Wear the very best clothes? Eat at Michelin star restaurants every night? Why not?

These are my life choices. I own no car. Live in a social flat. Yet my choice is to ride good e-bikes. I could have lost my left leg because of my illness. Still have it after 7 years post the last surgery.

I was to Moscow three years post the collapse of the Communism. Felt a rich man there.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Then buy some Clik valves.

Dave, you are a lovely person but a lamer in some aspects I give you are an excellent guitarist Cannot help you are helpless about Presta. No one can be good at everything

 

[Stefan Mikes]

You're sounding like an elitist. Don't so that.

I am an elitist. Who told you being an elitist was bad?

 

[DaveMatthews]

Dave, you are a lovely person but a lamer in some aspects I give you are an excellent guitarist

Please do enlighten me as to how I am a "Lamer".
Always willing to learn...

 

[Gionnirocket]

Yes, all good systems relate speed, to torque, and cadence. Best ones allow users to fine adjust those inputs and many others, such as the degrees before kick-in, how that kick-in progresses, over-run milliseconds, and so on. Dumb ones come only with a few factory preset options, the user cannot self-tune. The good stuff makes the bike an instrument, not an appliance. Some people, most, do not want three pedals on a piano or a car or subtle expressive action.

It must be a Cali thing because everything you touch is the best ever. You can definitely get a job at Luna cycle where everything is just Awesome!
I think I liked you better when you repeatedly glowed about the TSD motors, you know the cargo rated motors you were using. If you weren't so intimidated then and had gotten into the programming of those motors you would realize that all you are hard over now is old news.
If you post in one more thread about "degree before start" or "millisecond" of anything... I'm going to fly out to Petaluma and Maury you!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Please do enlighten me as to how I am a "Lamer".
Always willing to learn...

You can certainly handle a guitar pick but can't handle such a simple thing as a Presta valve that millions have no issue with

To reverse the situation: how do you feel about the lamers who needed Gibson self tuning guitars?

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

Boy, this thread went sideways in a hurry! Let's agree that we all have our own priorites and move on.

 

[DaveMatthews]

You can certainly handle a guitar pick but can't handle such a simple thing as a Presta valve that millions have no issue with

To reverse the situation: how do you feel about the lamers who needed Gibson self tuning guitars?

I've dealt with Presta valves for the exact same amount of time as you, less 3 months mate. There's nothing to your argument except to hang on to 100 year old thing. Have at it, some of us know better now. You do not... yet.
Millions have no issue with an acoustic bike, so...

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I've dealt with Presta valves for the exact same amount of time as you, less 3 months mate. There's nothing to your argument except to hang on to 100 year old thing. Have at it, some of us know better now. You do not... yet.
Millions have no issue with an acoustic bike, so...

No electronic drivetrain.
No TPU inner tubes.
No tubeless.
No Pinion MGU.
No Clik valves.
No Varia.

Only proven things that work.

Millions had no leg surgeries.
Millions didn't ride eleven thousand kilometres a year

And no, I can't play guitar anymore

What about the Gibson self tuning guitars? Did they make anyone a better guitarist?

 

[DaveMatthews]

No electronic drivetrain.
No TPU inner tubes.
No tubeless.
No Pinion MGU.
No Clik valves.
No Varia.

Only proven things that work.

Millions had no leg surgeries.
Millions didn't ride eleven thousand kilometres a year

And no, I can't play guitar anymore

Let's get something straight here...
I'm the smartest guy on the forum, OK?
My opinions are unimpeachable. Everything I say is Gospel.
Facts are facts...

 

[Stefan Mikes]

You didn't answer the Gibson self tuning guitar question but instead went personal. Did the Clik valve make you a better cyclist?

 

[DaveMatthews]

You didn't answer the Gibson self tuning guitar question but instead went personal. Did the Clik valve make you a better cyclist?

Calling me a "Lamer" isn't personal?

 

[Gionnirocket]

Where the F* is the DHL truck when you need one!?!?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

If you ever bought the Gibson self tuning guitar you would deserve that moniker for sure