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I suggest you send us each a gram of the bud you’re smoking and we can all post goofy s*it. Jeebus electricbikereview review, not mind f*ck fellow riders and drag em down a rabbit hole.
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How is it true when the prediction didn't happen? Look who's not thinking.
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Think again. Try using the old noggin. If the oil company knew what Mr Coffee suggested they knew back then, they knew more than IPCC did at an even later date.
That's not too hard a concept to grasp, is it?
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I mean, perhaps they did know more than IPCC. It's possible. If so, if that is the claim, that they knew back then, then produce the evidence showing they knew at that time. That is all that is required to prove your case.
SIMPLES.
But that isn't what the evidence-free freakout people do. They make claims and then run away from their duty to show the evidence. Spout but cannot show. Always the same routine.
SIMPLES.
But that isn't what the evidence-free freakout people do. They make claims and then run away from their duty to show the evidence. Spout but cannot show. Always the same routine.
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So here's what Scientific American puts out.
"aware of climate change"
No kidding. They knew of world history. Make it sound damning! Remember, though, that the top scientific advisor to the government at that time, the grandfather of the IPCC, Journal of Climate Editor Stephen Schneider, advised that the globe was probably going into another glaciation period.
Oil companies bragged that their output could melt glaciers if it happened. The authors were hoping nuclear could do the necessary melt.
So get a grip, Nervous Nellies. Try showing evidence.
Discovery magazine
So 11 years before it became a public issue. 1988 they claim, it became a public issue.
Oh, ACCORDING to InsideClimateNews.
"aware of climate change"
No kidding. They knew of world history. Make it sound damning! Remember, though, that the top scientific advisor to the government at that time, the grandfather of the IPCC, Journal of Climate Editor Stephen Schneider, advised that the globe was probably going into another glaciation period.
Oil companies bragged that their output could melt glaciers if it happened. The authors were hoping nuclear could do the necessary melt.
So get a grip, Nervous Nellies. Try showing evidence.
Discovery magazine
So 11 years before it became a public issue. 1988 they claim, it became a public issue.
Oh, ACCORDING to InsideClimateNews.
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If these are the kinds of "tactics" you think are appropriate in a free and open debate, perhaps you should reconsider which side you support:
www.buzzfeednews.com
newrepublic.com
It's Not Just Greta. Trolls Are Swarming Young Climate Activists Online.
A new movement of teenage climate activists — most of whom are girls — are getting dragged, doxed, hacked, and harassed online.
www.buzzfeednews.com
The Misogyny of Climate Deniers
Why do right-wing men hate Greta Thunberg and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez so much? Researchers have some troubling answers to that question.
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and that is why the mentally weak are led by mentally ill children
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AOC claimed very seriously and was copied by a horde of news mediums that the world will end in 12 years, if we don't do what she said has to be done.
Real Clear Politics:
Oh, AOC issued a chilling warning !
When called out on her foolish nonsense, she concocted a total lie - she said anyone who thought she was serious has the brain of a sea sponge. All her followers believed her. Mr Coffee believes her, it looks like. That's not smart, that's stupid.
She's a serial liar who can't think well. Believe her at own certain embarrassment.
She's just a liar who hasn't got what it takes to admit a mistake and that she doesn't know how to read a report. Then plays the victim. It's misogyny to contradict her when she's lying.
Has anyone like Mr Coffee bothered to look at the actual report the mentally ill careless propagandists are referring to? That's a question with no need of answer. No they have not, or they would know what careful people know. People who will not allow the liars to unanswered terrorize the young with false nightmarish scenarios, they are the type to look at what it actually says. And bear the brunt of the slag from the mentally weak.
Real Clear Politics:
Oh, AOC issued a chilling warning !
When called out on her foolish nonsense, she concocted a total lie - she said anyone who thought she was serious has the brain of a sea sponge. All her followers believed her. Mr Coffee believes her, it looks like. That's not smart, that's stupid.
She's a serial liar who can't think well. Believe her at own certain embarrassment.
She's just a liar who hasn't got what it takes to admit a mistake and that she doesn't know how to read a report. Then plays the victim. It's misogyny to contradict her when she's lying.
Has anyone like Mr Coffee bothered to look at the actual report the mentally ill careless propagandists are referring to? That's a question with no need of answer. No they have not, or they would know what careful people know. People who will not allow the liars to unanswered terrorize the young with false nightmarish scenarios, they are the type to look at what it actually says. And bear the brunt of the slag from the mentally weak.
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The weak minded don't even bother to read the report being referred to. THAT is how much they care about the kids who will die of climate change disaster before reaching adulthood.
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Here is what the report said. Those who care so much about the climate that they don't bother to spend 3 minutes to look, here is it's key finding:
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The Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5 °C (SR15)
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Its key finding is that meeting a 1.5 °C (2.7 °F) target is possible but would require "deep emissions reductions"[4] and "rapid, far-reaching and unprecedented changes in all aspects of society."[2] Furthermore, the report finds that "limiting global warming to 1.5 °C compared with 2 °C would reduce challenging impacts on ecosystems, human health and well-being" and that a 2 °C temperature increase would exacerbate extreme weather, rising sea levels and diminishing Arctic sea ice, coral bleaching, and loss of ecosystems, among other impacts.[2] SR15 also has modelling that shows that, for global warming to be limited to 1.5 °C, "Global net human-caused emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) would need to fall by about 45 percent from 2010 levels by 2030, reaching 'net zero' around 2050."[2] The reduction of emissions by 2030 and its associated changes and challenges, including rapid decarbonisation, was a key focus on much of the reporting which was repeated through the world.[5][6][7][8][9][10] "
What isn't mentioned is that we're already most of the way there because they are talking about that amount of temperature rise since pre-industrial cold times when disease was rampant, education of ordinary people was gone, terrible storms, loss of crops and animals, starvation and plague was the order of the day and CO2 was near to plant starvation levels.
So it's not what you've been told.
And that is taking the conflicted-in-interest Greenpeace signatory serial liar self-promoting "scientists" work for the IPCC at face value!
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The Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5 °C (SR15)
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Its key finding is that meeting a 1.5 °C (2.7 °F) target is possible but would require "deep emissions reductions"[4] and "rapid, far-reaching and unprecedented changes in all aspects of society."[2] Furthermore, the report finds that "limiting global warming to 1.5 °C compared with 2 °C would reduce challenging impacts on ecosystems, human health and well-being" and that a 2 °C temperature increase would exacerbate extreme weather, rising sea levels and diminishing Arctic sea ice, coral bleaching, and loss of ecosystems, among other impacts.[2] SR15 also has modelling that shows that, for global warming to be limited to 1.5 °C, "Global net human-caused emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) would need to fall by about 45 percent from 2010 levels by 2030, reaching 'net zero' around 2050."[2] The reduction of emissions by 2030 and its associated changes and challenges, including rapid decarbonisation, was a key focus on much of the reporting which was repeated through the world.[5][6][7][8][9][10] "
What isn't mentioned is that we're already most of the way there because they are talking about that amount of temperature rise since pre-industrial cold times when disease was rampant, education of ordinary people was gone, terrible storms, loss of crops and animals, starvation and plague was the order of the day and CO2 was near to plant starvation levels.
So it's not what you've been told.
And that is taking the conflicted-in-interest Greenpeace signatory serial liar self-promoting "scientists" work for the IPCC at face value!
I run my ac all day with my doors and windows open. I like feeling fresh and natural, yet institutionally dry air. I eschew solar panels as they would look ugly in my drought in-tolerant landscaping. Why deal with that eye sore.
I leave all my lights on, all night, as it looks wonderful from outside thru my floor to ceiling windows. Whats the point of Restoration Hardware furniture and custom Murano chandeliers if all my neighbors can't see them? I live in Rancho Santa Fe, the biggest water wasting community in the U S of A, and I'm proud to lead the pack with the most lush 3 acres on the block.
I own massive amounts of investment real estate. I've declined to put any energy saving upgrades in any of my apartment units, because....why would I? If I put solar on the roof, the tenants would just use air conditioners and appliances more, wearing them down and costing me more to replacing them.
If I put in low flow on showers and faucets, the tenants would just run the water longer, cutting the life of MY pipes. Energy efficient appliances just cost more to replace, and I'm not paying for my tenants' electricity....they are.
The utility company offered to install free electric vehicle charging stations in one of my apartment complexes to encourage my tenants to use EVs, but yuk, NO! First of all, they wanted me to grant them an easement in the parking lot where the stations would go. I don't give away anything....not even a 4'x4' square in asphalt. And what kind of 'EVs' would my tenants buy anyway? Not nice Teslas, I can tell you that. They'd buy ghetto looking Volts and Leafs. And it would attract penny pinchers who would be more sensitive to my future rent increases.
My neighbor once bragged that he never has to fill gas in his tesla. Well, my nanny fills up my BMW M7 when she picks up the kids from PRIVATE school, so neither do I. And I always ask her to leave the engine running with the AC on full blast when she parks my M outside the front door in sunlight. I hate walking to the garage.
As Trump says about Greta, she looks like a very happy girl looking forward to a bright future.
I leave all my lights on, all night, as it looks wonderful from outside thru my floor to ceiling windows. Whats the point of Restoration Hardware furniture and custom Murano chandeliers if all my neighbors can't see them? I live in Rancho Santa Fe, the biggest water wasting community in the U S of A, and I'm proud to lead the pack with the most lush 3 acres on the block.
I own massive amounts of investment real estate. I've declined to put any energy saving upgrades in any of my apartment units, because....why would I? If I put solar on the roof, the tenants would just use air conditioners and appliances more, wearing them down and costing me more to replacing them.
If I put in low flow on showers and faucets, the tenants would just run the water longer, cutting the life of MY pipes. Energy efficient appliances just cost more to replace, and I'm not paying for my tenants' electricity....they are.
The utility company offered to install free electric vehicle charging stations in one of my apartment complexes to encourage my tenants to use EVs, but yuk, NO! First of all, they wanted me to grant them an easement in the parking lot where the stations would go. I don't give away anything....not even a 4'x4' square in asphalt. And what kind of 'EVs' would my tenants buy anyway? Not nice Teslas, I can tell you that. They'd buy ghetto looking Volts and Leafs. And it would attract penny pinchers who would be more sensitive to my future rent increases.
My neighbor once bragged that he never has to fill gas in his tesla. Well, my nanny fills up my BMW M7 when she picks up the kids from PRIVATE school, so neither do I. And I always ask her to leave the engine running with the AC on full blast when she parks my M outside the front door in sunlight. I hate walking to the garage.
As Trump says about Greta, she looks like a very happy girl looking forward to a bright future.
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Now to look at the scare story a little bit closer.
CNN was told this by climate science LECTURER at university, Andrew King of Australia.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/07/world/climate-change-new-ipcc-report-wxc/index.html
"This is concerning because we know there are so many more problems if we exceed 1.5 degrees C global warming, including more heatwaves and hot summers, greater sea level rise, and, for many parts of the world, worse droughts and rainfall extremes,"
But this is what Professor Andy Pitman lead author in IPCC and Director of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science that King works for, this is what he says:
At 1:11:20
"this may not be what you expect to hear. but as far as the climate scientists know there is no link between climate change and drought.
That may not be what you read in the newspapers and sometimes hear commented, but there is no reason a priori why climate change should make the landscape more arid.
If you look at the Bureau of Meteorology data over the whole of the last one hundred years there’s no trend in data. There is no drying trend. There’s been a trend in the last twenty years, but there’s been no trend in the last hundred years, and that’s an expression on how variable Australian rainfall climate is.
There are in some regions but not in other regions.
So the fundamental problem we have is that we don’t understand what causes droughts.
Much more interesting, We don’t know what stops a drought. We know it’s rain, but we don’t know what lines up to create drought breaking rains.”
"Andy is a climate modeler with a major focus on terrestrial processes in global and regional climate models. He has explored the global and regional impacts of land cover change and currently co-leads the Land use change: identification of robust impacts project. He has interests in climate extremes and how these are likely to change in the future. His leadership and research experience is extensive nationally and internationally. Between 2004 and 2010 he convened the ARC Research Network for Earth System. Since 2011 he has been the Director of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science. This national centre involves five Universities, major Australian research agencies and many international groups. Andy is a member of the Academy of Science’s National Committee for Earth System Science and the NSW Minister for the Environment’s Science Advisory Committee. He is closely affiliated with the World Climate Research Program (WCRP). He was chair of the WCRP’s Land Committee for the Global Land Atmosphere System Study from 2006 to 2008, and is now on its Science Steering Committee. "
CNN was told this by climate science LECTURER at university, Andrew King of Australia.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/07/world/climate-change-new-ipcc-report-wxc/index.html
"This is concerning because we know there are so many more problems if we exceed 1.5 degrees C global warming, including more heatwaves and hot summers, greater sea level rise, and, for many parts of the world, worse droughts and rainfall extremes,"
But this is what Professor Andy Pitman lead author in IPCC and Director of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science that King works for, this is what he says:
At 1:11:20
"this may not be what you expect to hear. but as far as the climate scientists know there is no link between climate change and drought.
That may not be what you read in the newspapers and sometimes hear commented, but there is no reason a priori why climate change should make the landscape more arid.
If you look at the Bureau of Meteorology data over the whole of the last one hundred years there’s no trend in data. There is no drying trend. There’s been a trend in the last twenty years, but there’s been no trend in the last hundred years, and that’s an expression on how variable Australian rainfall climate is.
There are in some regions but not in other regions.
So the fundamental problem we have is that we don’t understand what causes droughts.
Much more interesting, We don’t know what stops a drought. We know it’s rain, but we don’t know what lines up to create drought breaking rains.”
"Andy is a climate modeler with a major focus on terrestrial processes in global and regional climate models. He has explored the global and regional impacts of land cover change and currently co-leads the Land use change: identification of robust impacts project. He has interests in climate extremes and how these are likely to change in the future. His leadership and research experience is extensive nationally and internationally. Between 2004 and 2010 he convened the ARC Research Network for Earth System. Since 2011 he has been the Director of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science. This national centre involves five Universities, major Australian research agencies and many international groups. Andy is a member of the Academy of Science’s National Committee for Earth System Science and the NSW Minister for the Environment’s Science Advisory Committee. He is closely affiliated with the World Climate Research Program (WCRP). He was chair of the WCRP’s Land Committee for the Global Land Atmosphere System Study from 2006 to 2008, and is now on its Science Steering Committee. "
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I drove once last month, 38 mi. on a multitasking shopping expedition. Haven't driven yet this month.
The grocer's given me a 4 cent a gallon discount at the pump for this month, but my tank is still 3/4 full
from November. I can handle most errands on the bike.
Greta may be a bit naive, but her heart is very much in the right place, & I respect her courage.
The world could do with more of that kind.
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I drove 0 times last month. Greta is a mentally damaged child actor and victim of child abuse by lying violence-loving communist activists. Nobody should applaud that media circus.
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I think you missed the point, but forum guidelines prevent my posting an appropriate response
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Of course. There is to be no reasoned discussion, and any response from supporters is by nature violent in word or action. Understood.
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German railway claims Greta Thunberg lied about taking first class
It’s just a bunch of hot air. A German railway company has taken back an apology they made to Greta Thunberg after they realized the climate activist wasn’t schlepping it on the train&#…
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Dwindling Arctic Ice
Since the 1970s, Arctic sea ice has been melting at the rate of 9 percent per decade. NASA researcher Josefino Comiso points to an accelerating warming trend as a primary cause and discusses how global climate change may be influencing the shrinking Arctic ice cap.
Because.
It's politics, not science.
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The best part of this is that the angry virtue signallers are the ones who CANNOT BE BOTHERED TO READ the reports. The life and death issue for the planet...TLDR. 
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