There really is nothing like the Dash out there especially in this price range. 99% of the folding bikes out there are just too big. Yes they fold but they are so big folded and when you unfold them they take up a huge amount of space and are a pain in the ass to carry. The Dash is so easy to carry compared to say the Rad Mini. I had more success moving it up my stairway when its unfolded more than folded since the weight distribution is better and you there are no moving parts. With the Dash you get a bike that's so small and lightweight with tremendous build quality and all the latest bike tech (Gates CDX belt drive, mid drive, torque sensors, full color display etc). Like I said once you make that jump to the Tern Vektrons or the HM Tinker the price also jumps up to 4k+ so I feel like the Dash is in the perfect spot when it comes to price and features. Also @raging883, ask for the speed kit and they'll send it to you for free and it includes a different rear sprocket and a brand new 132t belt (roughly worth $200). So down the road you can experiment and see which setup you prefer and if something ever happens to your belt down the line you can just switch it up to the other sprocket and belt and you can put another 5k miles on it without paying a dime!My Dash is a keeper!
Yes, higher gearing and the associated higher top speeds would come at the expense of the bike's hill-climbing abilities. Unfortunately, I don't think they have a low-speed kit. ; )
And, yeah, I get that about the saddles breaking us in; I haven't been riding consistently enough to get there yet.
@SRTtoZ
Wow, first I have heard about the speed kit. Can you elaborate a bit more on it? How does it impact torque, specifically for hill climbing, acceleration and top end? I just retired my Harley and the Dash is my new ride. Being a senior citizen and always looking for deals, I asked about the giveaways. Even though I purchased an open box, they included the locking chain even though the promotion had ended to make me happy. They gave me a choice of lock or trunk bad. I agree completely that their customer service is great! They spent a lot of time with me and my dumb questions on phone and via email.
I haven't ridden a bicycle for at least 25 years and will be turning 67 this year. I haven’t changed the max speed setting, but I have hit 21+ mph giving it all I can on a slight downhill. Going back up it, I hit 17 without killing myself. Speed limit here on bike paths is 15 and I can cruise at 15 easily traffic permitting. I haven’t exercised previously, and this is getting my legs and cardio into shape. I am having fun riding around the neighborhood streets and on the bike paths. I use power assist one most of the time unless I get into racing mode. In which case, you can never have enough torque and top end!
I wouldn't call the Dash light, (When I think back to my 12 spd back in the late 70s) But I can fold it, carry it around, load it into my car unassisted and I am a small guy. I have the thunderpost ST, clound9 MetroLine Airflow installed. I ride ride over curbs without any discomfort. It’s not the cushiest seat but I think it looks nice and after I get in and me broken in, I think it will be perfect.
Just noticed that the Dash in now coming with a 5-speed Sturmey Archer IGH.Yes, higher gearing and the associated higher top speeds would come at the expense of the bike's hill-climbing abilities. Unfortunately, I don't think they have a low-speed kit. ; )
And, yeah, I get that about the saddles breaking us in; I haven't been riding consistently enough to get there yet.
Vincent, I know, I think you’ve been looking for similar specs as I have. I also really like this new 2022 Cube Fold Hybrid. Just not sure if it will be made available in North America.Wow very cool
Now we just need a bigger motor
MainlyCivil, thanks for your response. Evelo is having a Black Friday sale and I’m tempted to pull the trigger on one. Been debating between the Dash and the Pedego Latch (different beast but simpler system with the front hub and folds better too).We have been riding ours off and on, though much less than I would like to. We've returned to the Valley trail where the grades max out at about 5% and the battery consumption is quite moderate. We've pedaled flat sections where we just turn off the assist and they ride nicely.
We recently took the bikes to the Columbia River Gorge and rode some of the paved multi-use trail sections of the old highway. There are some fairly steep grades on these trails and we did consume more battery, but the performance was fine. We pulled the batteries to 60% remaining, which was a first. Usually we end our ride at 80% remaining or higher. But, we haven't traveled long distances, basically riding less than 15 miles a trip.
The bikes performance has been fine. When I saw that Evelo had changed to the five-speed hub I was bummed as I'd like to have had the broader gearing range. But, the bikes are doing what we wanted them to do, so I decided to get over it and just enjoy them. No regrets so far.
They appear to be very different bikes so it all depends on what you want. It appears that the Dash is about 6-inches longer overall. My wife has really enjoyed the fact that the Dash is much more stable than our previous folding bikes, Giant Expressways, which were shorter in length and much more twitchy to steer. On the other hand, I expect it would not fold as tidy as the Latch. I really like the organic sensation of how the mid-drive responds to pedaling, but frankly I never even rode a hub-motor bike as I made my determination to go with a mid-drive based on my reading.MainlyCivil, thanks for your response. Evelo is having a Black Friday sale and I’m tempted to pull the trigger on one. Been debating between the Dash and the Pedego Latch (different beast but simpler system with the front hub and folds better too).
I wonder what made the Giant more twitchy? The wheelbase on both bikes seems about the same. As far as the three-speed, it’s my understanding that Evelo had a hard time sourcing the 5-speed and couldn’t wait a whole year to offer the Dash. That’s why the 5-speeds aren’t shipping until mid-January. And who knows, maybe they considered the NuVinci and ran into the same problem. This whole pandemic worldwide sourcing issues is really screwing things up as far as having consumer options.They appear to be very different bikes so it all depends on what you want. It appears that the Dash is about 6-inches longer overall. My wife has really enjoyed the fact that the Dash is much more stable than our previous folding bikes, Giant Expressways, which were shorter in length and much more twitchy to steer. On the other hand, I expect it would not fold as tidy as the Latch. I really like the organic sensation of how the mid-drive responds to pedaling, but frankly I never even rode a hub-motor bike as I made my determination to go with a mid-drive based on my reading.
I see they have a couple of open-box three-speed bikes with 69 and 148 miles respectively. Maybe some folks groused about the change from the three-speed to the five-speed and got replacements - ?
That's interesting about the gearing, and something I hadn't really thought about. Evelo's previous folder the Quest had the NuVinci hub, so I had wondered why they went with just a three-speed on the Dash. I had thought it might be a case of weight-watching to a fault, but maybe it was simply a matter of parts availability like you suggest.I wonder what made the Giant more twitchy? The wheelbase on both bikes seems about the same. As far as the three-speed, it’s my understanding that Evelo had a hard time sourcing the 5-speed and couldn’t wait a whole year to offer the Dash. That’s why the 5-speeds aren’t shipping until mid-January. And who knows, maybe they considered the NuVinci and ran into the same problem. This whole pandemic worldwide sourcing issues is really screwing things up as far as having consumer options.