Evelo Dash information

My Dash is a keeper! :cool:
There really is nothing like the Dash out there especially in this price range. 99% of the folding bikes out there are just too big. Yes they fold but they are so big folded and when you unfold them they take up a huge amount of space and are a pain in the ass to carry. The Dash is so easy to carry compared to say the Rad Mini. I had more success moving it up my stairway when its unfolded more than folded since the weight distribution is better and you there are no moving parts. With the Dash you get a bike that's so small and lightweight with tremendous build quality and all the latest bike tech (Gates CDX belt drive, mid drive, torque sensors, full color display etc). Like I said once you make that jump to the Tern Vektrons or the HM Tinker the price also jumps up to 4k+ so I feel like the Dash is in the perfect spot when it comes to price and features. Also @raging883, ask for the speed kit and they'll send it to you for free and it includes a different rear sprocket and a brand new 132t belt (roughly worth $200). So down the road you can experiment and see which setup you prefer and if something ever happens to your belt down the line you can just switch it up to the other sprocket and belt and you can put another 5k miles on it without paying a dime!

Did they end up sending you any accessories with your purchase? I love their customer service.
 
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Wow, first I have heard about the speed kit. Can you elaborate a bit more on it? How does it impact torque, specifically for hill climbing, acceleration and top end? I just retired my Harley and the Dash is my new ride. Being a senior citizen and always looking for deals, I asked about the giveaways. Even though I purchased an open box, they included the locking chain even though the promotion had ended to make me happy. They gave me a choice of lock or trunk bad. I agree completely that their customer service is great! They spent a lot of time with me and my dumb questions on phone and via email.

I haven't ridden a bicycle for at least 25 years and will be turning 67 this year. I haven’t changed the max speed setting, but I have hit 21+ mph giving it all I can on a slight downhill. Going back up it, I hit 17 without killing myself. Speed limit here on bike paths is 15 and I can cruise at 15 easily traffic permitting. I haven’t exercised previously, and this is getting my legs and cardio into shape. I am having fun riding around the neighborhood streets and on the bike paths. I use power assist one most of the time unless I get into racing mode. In which case, you can never have enough torque and top end!

I wouldn't call the Dash light, (When I think back to my 12 spd back in the late 70s) But I can fold it, carry it around, load it into my car unassisted and I am a small guy. I have the thunderpost ST, clound9 MetroLine Airflow installed. I ride ride over curbs without any discomfort. It’s not the cushiest seat but I think it looks nice and after I get in and me broken in, I think it will be perfect.
 
Yes, higher gearing and the associated higher top speeds would come at the expense of the bike's hill-climbing abilities. Unfortunately, I don't think they have a low-speed kit. ; )

And, yeah, I get that about the saddles breaking us in; I haven't been riding consistently enough to get there yet.
 
Yes, higher gearing and the associated higher top speeds would come at the expense of the bike's hill-climbing abilities. Unfortunately, I don't think they have a low-speed kit. ; )

And, yeah, I get that about the saddles breaking us in; I haven't been riding consistently enough to get there yet.

Yep this exactly. You get the higher speed instead of the 18mph cutoff on the dash out of the box. It's very easy to replace and change out so it's nice to get it just to try it out and see if you like it . As far as the weight goes @raging883 yes technically it's not light at 45 pounds or so but it's night and day when you try and carry around a Rad Mini @ 70 pounds lol. Plus it's just a much thinner frame and tires which also makes it easier to fit in a trunk. For a while I was considering returning the Dash but it's a keeper now and I'm coming up on the return period which I think just passed a day or so ago. Very happy with it.

My one WISH going forward is if I could change one thing about this bike I'd ask Evelo to go from the Dapu 350 mid drive to a Bosch performance line CX motor (newest gen). I know the bike would have to cost more but I'd buy it in an instant.
 
@SRTtoZ
Wow, first I have heard about the speed kit. Can you elaborate a bit more on it? How does it impact torque, specifically for hill climbing, acceleration and top end? I just retired my Harley and the Dash is my new ride. Being a senior citizen and always looking for deals, I asked about the giveaways. Even though I purchased an open box, they included the locking chain even though the promotion had ended to make me happy. They gave me a choice of lock or trunk bad. I agree completely that their customer service is great! They spent a lot of time with me and my dumb questions on phone and via email.

I haven't ridden a bicycle for at least 25 years and will be turning 67 this year. I haven’t changed the max speed setting, but I have hit 21+ mph giving it all I can on a slight downhill. Going back up it, I hit 17 without killing myself. Speed limit here on bike paths is 15 and I can cruise at 15 easily traffic permitting. I haven’t exercised previously, and this is getting my legs and cardio into shape. I am having fun riding around the neighborhood streets and on the bike paths. I use power assist one most of the time unless I get into racing mode. In which case, you can never have enough torque and top end!

I wouldn't call the Dash light, (When I think back to my 12 spd back in the late 70s) But I can fold it, carry it around, load it into my car unassisted and I am a small guy. I have the thunderpost ST, clound9 MetroLine Airflow installed. I ride ride over curbs without any discomfort. It’s not the cushiest seat but I think it looks nice and after I get in and me broken in, I think it will be perfect.

Had no idea you got the open box. How was it? Almost brand new right? Not bad for saving $200 and it's nice of them to toss in the free chain or bag. I got both but I also bought it brand new when the promo was going on. The bag is nice but I did end up buying a bigger Topeak one that also has a water bottle holder on it and fits a bit more stuff. It's so good to see how these bikes pull people like you and me out of the house and can get on the bike like it was yesterday with very little learning curve. Since I also rode the Rad Mini 4 which has a rear hub motor I can say these mid drives are just a bit more fun. With the rear hub drives it feels like the motor is doing all the work once it kicks in with your pedaling cadence but on the Dash you feel like you're doing the work and the bike is just helping you out. It's just so much smoother, quieter and more natural feeling.
 
The open box model had 3 miles and was immaculate. Not a scratch. I got really lucky, it had stayed at the shop, was opened up for a photo shoot on site. And I was told, open box is opened box. My wife tells me I don't need more speed...lol, but I would go for a more powerful motor and increased battery capacity. I am confident I will hit 40 miles easily but you can never have enough power. My wish list is that the kickstand be modified so the bike can roll backwards without hitting the pedal and turn signals, otherwise it's perfect.
 
Yes, higher gearing and the associated higher top speeds would come at the expense of the bike's hill-climbing abilities. Unfortunately, I don't think they have a low-speed kit. ; )

And, yeah, I get that about the saddles breaking us in; I haven't been riding consistently enough to get there yet.
Just noticed that the Dash in now coming with a 5-speed Sturmey Archer IGH.
 
Wow very cool
Now we just need a bigger motor
Vincent, I know, I think you’ve been looking for similar specs as I have. I also really like this new 2022 Cube Fold Hybrid. Just not sure if it will be made available in North America.

 
I've been riding an Evelo ALE for a few years, nice bike, great company.
Well the ALE was recently stolen so I've decided to give the Dash model a try.

Have one on order that will include the newer IGH 5-Speed which gives a little extra low/high end gearing than the original IGH 3-Speed.
 
Hi MuttonChops,
Congratulations on your Evelo Dash with the new 5-speed IGH! Please let me know how you like it. Sorry to hear about the ALE being stolen. Glad to hear that you‘ve had positive customer experiences with Evelo. Spoke with David at Evelo one time for almost an hour. I was quite impressed that he would take the time to talk to me about the Dash that long. I haven’t purchased the Dash from them yet, but just may when the time comes.

I have also been considering the new 2022 Cube Fold Hybrid that I’ve talked about in this thread.
 
So you guys who’ve owned your Dash for a few months now, are you still happy with it? Is the Dapu mid-drive still functioning well? Do you still find that it has adequate power and enough torque? (supposedly rated at 70Nm).
 
We have been riding ours off and on, though much less than I would like to. We've returned to the Valley trail where the grades max out at about 5% and the battery consumption is quite moderate. We've pedaled flat sections where we just turn off the assist and they ride nicely.

We recently took the bikes to the Columbia River Gorge and rode some of the paved multi-use trail sections of the old highway. There are some fairly steep grades on these trails and we did consume more battery, but the performance was fine. We pulled the batteries to 60% remaining, which was a first. Usually we end our ride at 80% remaining or higher. But, we haven't traveled long distances, basically riding less than 15 miles a trip.

The bikes performance has been fine. When I saw that Evelo had changed to the five-speed hub I was bummed as I'd like to have had the broader gearing range. But, the bikes are doing what we wanted them to do, so I decided to get over it and just enjoy them. No regrets so far.
 
We have been riding ours off and on, though much less than I would like to. We've returned to the Valley trail where the grades max out at about 5% and the battery consumption is quite moderate. We've pedaled flat sections where we just turn off the assist and they ride nicely.

We recently took the bikes to the Columbia River Gorge and rode some of the paved multi-use trail sections of the old highway. There are some fairly steep grades on these trails and we did consume more battery, but the performance was fine. We pulled the batteries to 60% remaining, which was a first. Usually we end our ride at 80% remaining or higher. But, we haven't traveled long distances, basically riding less than 15 miles a trip.

The bikes performance has been fine. When I saw that Evelo had changed to the five-speed hub I was bummed as I'd like to have had the broader gearing range. But, the bikes are doing what we wanted them to do, so I decided to get over it and just enjoy them. No regrets so far.
MainlyCivil, thanks for your response. Evelo is having a Black Friday sale and I’m tempted to pull the trigger on one. Been debating between the Dash and the Pedego Latch (different beast but simpler system with the front hub and folds better too).
 
MainlyCivil, thanks for your response. Evelo is having a Black Friday sale and I’m tempted to pull the trigger on one. Been debating between the Dash and the Pedego Latch (different beast but simpler system with the front hub and folds better too).
They appear to be very different bikes so it all depends on what you want. It appears that the Dash is about 6-inches longer overall. My wife has really enjoyed the fact that the Dash is much more stable than our previous folding bikes, Giant Expressways, which were shorter in length and much more twitchy to steer. On the other hand, I expect it would not fold as tidy as the Latch. I really like the organic sensation of how the mid-drive responds to pedaling, but frankly I never even rode a hub-motor bike as I made my determination to go with a mid-drive based on my reading.

I see they have a couple of open-box three-speed bikes with 69 and 148 miles respectively. Maybe some folks groused about the change from the three-speed to the five-speed and got replacements - ?
 
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They appear to be very different bikes so it all depends on what you want. It appears that the Dash is about 6-inches longer overall. My wife has really enjoyed the fact that the Dash is much more stable than our previous folding bikes, Giant Expressways, which were shorter in length and much more twitchy to steer. On the other hand, I expect it would not fold as tidy as the Latch. I really like the organic sensation of how the mid-drive responds to pedaling, but frankly I never even rode a hub-motor bike as I made my determination to go with a mid-drive based on my reading.

I see they have a couple of open-box three-speed bikes with 69 and 148 miles respectively. Maybe some folks groused about the change from the three-speed to the five-speed and got replacements - ?
I wonder what made the Giant more twitchy? The wheelbase on both bikes seems about the same. As far as the three-speed, it’s my understanding that Evelo had a hard time sourcing the 5-speed and couldn’t wait a whole year to offer the Dash. That’s why the 5-speeds aren’t shipping until mid-January. And who knows, maybe they considered the NuVinci and ran into the same problem. This whole pandemic worldwide sourcing issues is really screwing things up as far as having consumer options.
 
I wonder what made the Giant more twitchy? The wheelbase on both bikes seems about the same. As far as the three-speed, it’s my understanding that Evelo had a hard time sourcing the 5-speed and couldn’t wait a whole year to offer the Dash. That’s why the 5-speeds aren’t shipping until mid-January. And who knows, maybe they considered the NuVinci and ran into the same problem. This whole pandemic worldwide sourcing issues is really screwing things up as far as having consumer options.
That's interesting about the gearing, and something I hadn't really thought about. Evelo's previous folder the Quest had the NuVinci hub, so I had wondered why they went with just a three-speed on the Dash. I had thought it might be a case of weight-watching to a fault, but maybe it was simply a matter of parts availability like you suggest.

I see the published wheelbases for the Dash and the Expressway are both about 40 inches which is really puzzling to me. I will look up the measurements I took this past summer as everything is currently folded and stowed away. The Dash is so much bigger than the Expressway that this seems contrary to reality.
 
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