eMTB Options For 2024

Long term fan of minions, but I'll confess the Eliminator on my levo sl has been impressive. When new, it had slightly better braking than a minion dhr but at the expense of being slightly less predictable as it slides. That was the old gripton compound, and everyone raves about the T7 .

I hated the Butcher up front ( old compound) - removed it after a few rides and fitted a dhf. I'm about to replace my second dhf yet I'm on the original rear Eliminator!

Browneye - the assengai is a generation more advanced than a minion dhf . I'm still running dhf's , but my son has Assengai on his reign and seems to get amazing traction . I'm just too lazy to re learn a new style of front tyre
 
I don't ride aggressive enough to be picky about a particular tire style - as long as they're knobby for dirt I'm good.
I have a general rule of not wanting to pay more than about $50 for a tire. So $200 for a set of tires would come as quite a shock. It's more about cost to me. If the Minion is a good tire for half of a Assagai that's a no brainer for me. OTOH, if they're the same price I would want the one that reviews better or is more suited to my terrain.

My MTB gets ridden on road about half the time. Wifey isn't a hardcore dirt rider for sure, so our jaunts together is generally on a paved path or road. I run Schwalbe knobby nicks on that set of wheels - Minions are on my dirt set.
Interestingly the Nicks work really well on dirt for me as well. Wife's bike has Hurricanes on it currently, for road duty, and I've ridden it on the trail with them and was quite impressed with how well they worked, being as smooth as they are. Obviously I'm not pushing the limits of traction. At my age, with a fifty year history of crashing dirtbikes, I prefer not to fall AT ALL. Yes, I ride like an old man. 😇 🤣

The super EXO tires do cost quite a bit more - better puncture resistance and all. I can't tell the difference between their different compounds - they all feel the same to me.
 
Browneye said:
I have a general rule of not wanting to pay more than about $50 for a tire. So $200 for a set of tires would come as quite a shock. It's more about cost to me. If the Minion is a good tire for half of a Assagai that's a no brainer for me. OTOH, if they're the same price I would want the one that reviews better or is more suited to my terrain.
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Browneye said:
I don't ride aggressive enough to be picky about a particular tire style - as long as they're knobby for dirt I'm good.
I have a general rule of not wanting to pay more than about $50 for a tire. So $200 for a set of tires would come as quite a shock. It's more about cost to me. If the Minion is a good tire for half of a Assagai that's a no brainer for me. OTOH, if they're the same price I would want the one that reviews better or is more suited to my terrain.

I prefer not to fall AT ALL. Yes, I ride like an old man. 😇 🤣

The super EXO tires do cost quite a bit more - better puncture resistance and all. I can't tell the difference between their different compounds - they all feel the same to me.
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Different pricing where @Prairie Dog and I live.
Where you get may get sales and discounts (on assembled bikes), we get regular prices and often limited supply (yes - I know those have some pretty solid correlation).

$50 USD is $67 CDN and you don't get higher end tires for that here either without lots of looking around..
Minion DHF here, is $135 and the same spec'd Assegai is on sale at $100 (normally $143)

That's our $$ reality, and the other reality, is that I also ride like an old man.

Regardless, your feedback was welcomed - it's always nice to hear of other's experiences. That's the beauty of these forums.

Keep it upright!
 
On another note...
My Orbea OCCAM - a non-E for those trails that prohibit ebikes...well, that just never happened. I ride the ebike everywhere and no one ever says a word. Perhaps if I was pursuing hardcore mountain trails signed no-ebikes, frequented by non-e riders and rangers actually checking, I might get stopped or ticketed. Never happened. [shrug] Anyway, since I never ride it I've considered selling it - paid about four grand for it two years ago, it's an M30 Eagle - fox suspension, CF, and eagle gears, it's a really nice bike with less than a hundred miles on it. I was looking for resale values and The Pros Closet has a frame-repaired size L, same bike, lots of miles with scratches and all - $3495. I thought cool, I could recover a chunk of cash, enough to pay my tax bill, and just ride the two Giant ebikes.

They do buy bikes for resale, they don't have an advertising service to sell yourself, so they assess your bike and give you a purchase offer. I was insulted - $1350. I understand profit and mark up and all that, but REALLY? Seriously? They're gonna mark it up three times? Well no, not doing that. I'll advertise on craigs or ebay or such. Pretty easy to partially disassemble and ship as well.

Anyway, thought I would pass this along. I doubt I would even buy something from them now, there are other options. :rolleyes:
 
Browneye said:
Awesome trails to ride!! 👏👏
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Posted this in the general reports thread but I thought that it would be appropriate to follow up here with footage of my out and back ride on the Highline Trail. Great single track with plenty of stellar views. Moraine Lake is gorgeous.

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Browneye said:
On another note...
My Orbea OCCAM - a non-E for those trails that prohibit ebikes...well, that just never happened. I ride the ebike everywhere and no one ever says a word. Perhaps if I was pursuing hardcore mountain trails signed no-ebikes, frequented by non-e riders and rangers actually checking, I might get stopped or ticketed. Never happened. [shrug]
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The Highline single that I recently rode does not permit e-bikes as it is considered backcountry trail. That won't prevent me from continuing what I enjoy doing despite the signage and warnings from Parks Canada. I don't think they have the manpower to enforce such a policy. I'm more than likely to encounter folks along the trail who want to rant about how e-bikes ruin the experience for others on analog rides.
 
Phenom. When I can I get an e-vite? 😇
We may well be moving back to eastern WA...just a short skip and a jump. Probably do a lot more trailriding if I do - lots of new places to go - left there thirty years ago before there were eMTB's.
 
Browneye said:
Phenom. When I can I get an e-vite? 😇
We may well be moving back to eastern WA...just a short skip and a jump. Probably do a lot more trailriding if I do - lots of new places to go - left there thirty years ago before there were eMTB's.
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If you do happen to move back west, there are plenty of locales up here to get your fix depending on what type of riding you fancy. Bragg Creek sports some of the province’s most prime single tracks and it’s about a 2 hour drive from my home in Central AB. Lots of green/blue runs to choose from or if your taste runs more on the gnarlier side, you won’t be disappointed either. E-bike friendly trails make it the most welcoming of all the places I’ve ridden including several of our prized mountain parks including Canmore, K-Country, and Banff/Jasper NPs. I would be happy to tag along. 👍


In WA, you also won't be that far away from Whistler/Blackcomb either. :cool:
 
Ah, just outside of Calgary. 600 miles from Yakima. That would be a fun RV trip. 🤩
Definitely putting it on my list. We are looking at next spring to move, will be ready to retire. Unless the RE market, or everything else, just goes down the tubes.

Whistler too? Oh my. Here we come.
My dad was born in Saskatchewan, I was born in Vancouver. But my mother is american so I've been in the states my entire life. Used to go visit grandparents in BC a lot when I was a kid. Everybody is gone now.

There are really good trails in Idaho too, at least there were decades ago for dirtbikes. I don't know what it's like there now. The Sawtooths mountains in SE were hot.
 
A buddy of mine frequently rides around the southern interior of BC (Penticton) and seems to be quite fond of the area there. Then again, there are likely plenty of spots near Yakima that might keep you occupied for a while until the time you get stoked for a road trip.
 
Fingers crossed - that pinion can produce a decent internal gearbox mid drive for an emtb - VERY promising.

Centralized weight , no derailleur , I'm not sold on the belt drive but am willing to at least watch how they hold up.



I've drooled over a few zerode bikes before - human powered central gearbox - the owners had lots of good things to say. Dump the derailleur !
 
Gates have been around for over 100 years and their belts are in cars motorbikes and EVs as well as bicycles. So I'm not worried about the extra power of a motor causing problems the way say a Rohloff hub might struggle, that is something primarily designed for non motor bikes for touring etc. The belt drive should be plenty strong enough. Questions I'd have are about putting all your eggs in one basket; gears and motor in one unit. And the repair/replacement costs if something in there breaks. A Deore derailleur after all only costs about 40 quid if you ping it off a rock. Pinion do have a strong reputation with their gear boxes so I'd expect quality to be high. But look it's exciting and I'm very interested to see how it works on the road. Or on the trails. And weight actually, curious about that. Any savings by combining motor and gears, any overlap? Interesting times. Eurobike is looking v exciting!
 
PDoz said:
Fingers crossed - that pinion can produce a decent internal gearbox mid drive for an emtb - VERY promising.

Centralized weight , no derailleur , I'm not sold on the belt drive but am willing to at least watch how they hold up.



I've drooled over a few zerode bikes before - human powered central gearbox - the owners had lots of good things to say. Dump the derailleur !
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I have been waiting for a long time for Pinion to get into the game especially since the first attempt did not go anywhere.

Fingers crossed they stick to it this time...
 
PDoz said:
More on the pinion internal gearbox motor. Sounds promising - only a few hundred gm heavier than a basix motor, 10,000 kmservice intervals, and a 590 + % gear range ( as wide as most good derailleurs) . Saving close to a kg at the rear wheel !
www.pinkbike.com

First Ride: Pinion's E-Drive System - A New Motor With an Integrated Gearbox - Pinkbike

Pinion is taking things to another level with an e-bike motor with integrated gearbox.
www.pinkbike.com www.pinkbike.com
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Great review. Far more tech detail then I was expecting at this stage. It really is ready to go rather then prototypes stage. And it looks really convincing.

I mean having everything sealed from dirt or damage and centred at the BB and the weight being competitive. It all seems a no brainer. Worth watching how the early adapter bikes test & what kinks/quirks it throws up over time.

With this huge announcement and the Bosch lightweight SX motor, this years Eurobike is looking very exciting.
 
I really like all I am reading and seeing so far, cant wait for the first bikes to roll out.
 
Watching robs' review, I was stunned by how low key they were - especially when discussing maintenance " sorry, did you say 10. minutes every 10,000 km" followed by his brain visibly dropping out of gear...

 
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