Been diving deep into Bafang and 8FUN and would appreciqte knowing if there are posts or threads that compare ranges of the BBS02 and BBSHD motors at various powers and batteries strengths. I am looking more for range than speed. I want to add one of these mid-drives to my latest bike build, which is a carbon fiber cyclocross frame with flat handlebars and an Ultegra setup: wheels (700 x 28), derailleurs, rim brakes.
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pocomo
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Welcome @Dmooreny! The Hudson valley is such a fantastic riding area!
That's a beautiful bicycle. You sure you want to ugly it up with a big battery wart, honkin' motor blob and wide chinese cranks?
You might consider trying out a simple front hub motor, which can be installed and removed with just a wheel swap and some cables.
Also there's the option of a self-contained drive system like the OneMotor (aka ShareRoller) which would mount to a bracket behind the seatpost or under the chainstays. You could carry as many add-on batteries as you want for range.
Or just buy a used purpose-built ebike and keep that gorgeous lithe machine. Most ebikers come to appreciate much wider tires than 28s when you aren't worried about rolling resistance anymore, and those would be hard/impossible to retrofit into that frame. Look for something with torque-sensing PAS like my Specialized for the most natural feel.
BTW, my first 3 seasons were on a BBS02 conversion and I am much more satisfied now.
That's a beautiful bicycle. You sure you want to ugly it up with a big battery wart, honkin' motor blob and wide chinese cranks?
You might consider trying out a simple front hub motor, which can be installed and removed with just a wheel swap and some cables.
Also there's the option of a self-contained drive system like the OneMotor (aka ShareRoller) which would mount to a bracket behind the seatpost or under the chainstays. You could carry as many add-on batteries as you want for range.
Or just buy a used purpose-built ebike and keep that gorgeous lithe machine. Most ebikers come to appreciate much wider tires than 28s when you aren't worried about rolling resistance anymore, and those would be hard/impossible to retrofit into that frame. Look for something with torque-sensing PAS like my Specialized for the most natural feel.
BTW, my first 3 seasons were on a BBS02 conversion and I am much more satisfied now.
Pocomo, thank you for your response. It gets at an issue that I have tried to dig into which has to do with using Bafang BBS02 units with traditional road or gravel bikes. The lion's share, for very good reason, of such units are used on mountain or commuter bikes. Each in their own way are relatively short distance machines when compared to someone like me who wants to maintain 50 to 60 mile, all day riding. And, yes, I am in my mid-70's, fit but far from 40. If there is a forum focused on road machines and their best characteristics when configuring or reconfiguring as ebikes, please, point me to it.
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Yeah, I'm more in the mid-distance city commuter category so not much direct experience with your goals.
One of the most well-known members here is @Ravi Kempaiah who holds a number of long distance ebiking records and just started a new distance-oriented ebike company (WattWagons); you might want to check out his post history via the search function.
Hopefully some other helpful members will chime in!
One of the most well-known members here is @Ravi Kempaiah who holds a number of long distance ebiking records and just started a new distance-oriented ebike company (WattWagons); you might want to check out his post history via the search function.
Hopefully some other helpful members will chime in!
Thanks, again, Pocomo. I have come across WattWagons and watched Ravi's videos. Intriguing machines. Particularly impressive about his work on battery technology with the engineers in Nova Scotia. A bit above my pay grade but I do hope he/you do well. I will check Ravi's posts.
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@Dmooreny ,
If you want to do 60 miles rides, every day... you need at least 800whr battery base minimum and depending on your riding style, terrain and power, it may go upto 1200whrs.
Where do you live and do you have access to shops like Trek or Giant or Yamaha dealers?
It is very possible to find you a bike that can do such high mileage with an additional battery but when you start spending long stretches of time on the saddle, the bike should fit like a glove (I am sure you know this).
If you already have a nice bike, you could add a BBS-02 and 1250whr traingle battery. Anyhow, more details are needed:
Just to get you started..
- Budget
- Riding style and frequency
- Location and riding terrain
- Do you already have a bike or do you need to find a new one?
Ravi:
All good questions. I have a carbon fiber cyclocross frame (ICAN Chinese) I built with an almost all Ultegra except for Paul's Component Minimoto linear pull brakes and flat handlebars, Tiagra flat bar shifters, Handsome Cycles fenders and a Blackburn rack. I did have a drop bar carbon racer (also built by me in 2003). But at 76, I want one bike. I ride about four times a week, commuting whenever I can, and my riding style is fairly laid out. The only difference between my road bike and this is the absence of drop bars (an accomodation with which I could not be happier). I live in Hudson, New York which is along the Hudson River and remarkably hilly. Flat it ain't. Budget is -- I dunno right now. I lust after everything from a Trek CrossRip+ (about to be discontinued, I am told), to the wagon you are producing. In reality, if I could accomodate my rig to a Bafang, that $2K would be a good way to get a start, granting that the bike would take the unit and that the Bafang is comparable in performance to the Bosch units, which are my point of comparison.
All good questions. I have a carbon fiber cyclocross frame (ICAN Chinese) I built with an almost all Ultegra except for Paul's Component Minimoto linear pull brakes and flat handlebars, Tiagra flat bar shifters, Handsome Cycles fenders and a Blackburn rack. I did have a drop bar carbon racer (also built by me in 2003). But at 76, I want one bike. I ride about four times a week, commuting whenever I can, and my riding style is fairly laid out. The only difference between my road bike and this is the absence of drop bars (an accomodation with which I could not be happier). I live in Hudson, New York which is along the Hudson River and remarkably hilly. Flat it ain't. Budget is -- I dunno right now. I lust after everything from a Trek CrossRip+ (about to be discontinued, I am told), to the wagon you are producing. In reality, if I could accomodate my rig to a Bafang, that $2K would be a good way to get a start, granting that the bike would take the unit and that the Bafang is comparable in performance to the Bosch units, which are my point of comparison.
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