tomjasz
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mea culpa from the unwashed!Yeah but that is the X1 Pro.
mea culpa from the unwashed!Yeah but that is the X1 Pro.
On paper it seems like a winner. The problem seems to be CYC's execution, especially on introduction.I like that the Photon is half the weight and it allows for the option be run from a smaller 36V battery for most rides under 50 miles. let's hope they work out the bugs. I also like that the Photon gives two drive profile modes from the display such as Off Road Racing and Around Town MUPs.
Déjà vu BafangThe problem seems to be CYC's execution, especially on introduction.
You also had a early TS.Déjà vu Bafang
yeah. going strong 5000 hard miles $100 inrepairsYou also had an early TS.
Tom, That's not really relevant (but still impressive) ... the comments were about the startup characteristics and if I remember correctly TS also had serious problems with the early units. But like any effective organization they sorted them out and have a reasonably well respected product today.yeah. going strong 5000 hard miles $100 inrepairs
Repair and maintenance is a huge factor. Until DIY guys like us can repair and change parts I have zero interest. Don't want a motor that has to be removed and sent back to the factory for a simple repair!!!And given the BBSHD parts, repair, and build support I don't see it ever being a BBSHD killer.
I'm reminded of those hundreds of pedicabs with operators beating on their motors, and they go and go, like that battery bunny.
This is the kinda feedback that puts me perfectly at peace with my decision to go BBSHD and to let a new product be out for a year or two before pulling the trigger! Thank You to the brave first generation gamblers...I'll listen to your pains and see how the manufacturer responds. Then if it is rectified and proven reliable I consider. Good luck!New to this forum, as well as this being my first foray into eMTB, but been riding mountain bikes since the late 80's. I recently installed a CYC Photon motor, SW102 controller and thumb throttle, as well as a CYC B-52 battery pack, onto a 29er titanium hardtail with a Rock Shox Pike fork set to 140 mm of travel and set up as singlespeed with a 34/18 gearset. Total bike weight of 41.25 pounds. Initial results have been mixed as I've had what seems to be overheating on each of my first 4 shakedown rides. I've done maybe 3-4 miles of a gradual grade uphill on mixed surfaces (mostly road then some smooth dirt rail trail), and by the time I get up to the top, the motor stops providing propulsion but may or may not be displaying wattage output while pedaling back home. These rides are way less taxing than trail rides I normally do, but I'm seeing motor temps upwards of 180 F by the time the motor stops providing propulsion. Weather has been < 60 F and overcast.
Yesterday, I experienced a weird throttle issue where my speed was displaying 4 mph (was moving much faster than 4 mph) but the throttle stayed on even after being released.
Some bugs to work out, but when it is working, the bike is fast and feels great. I've got some emails in to [email protected] to see if they can help me sort out my bugs. I'll report back as I get more information.
Dead on, we ride motors with over 110NM of torque..there is zero reason to be concerned with weight. Slightly heavier means stronger and more durable.The nine speed cassettes can give a strong chain and wide range for a moderate replacement cost. Here is a nine that is 11-42 for $24. If you are going to be replacing them every quarter this kind of thing is better than $240 cassettes. So what if it weighs a little more.
I'm at 110 mi on the photon now, the only issues I'm having are gearing related, chain jumping off at high high torque. I've made all the adjustments I can, but the only thing that's going to fix it is gearing up in the front.
I ordered it with the 38 (42 was not available), as I didn't want the 50 so I could maintain high cadence climbing. But 38 is not enough, so I emailed CYC, they said they will have chain rings on the website soon. In the meantime they sent me a direct invoice for a 42 tooth sprocket and are shipping it out.
So again on the customer service front CYC is absolutely killing it. They are quick to respond and quick with solutions.