RabH
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Of course it was, Rás steered me down the wrong path!It was a Hilux, whistlin diesel took over the challenge.
Of course it was, Rás steered me down the wrong path!It was a Hilux, whistlin diesel took over the challenge.
I wouldn't take any risk related to an unknown e-bike system. There were many e-bike motor brands who didn't stand the trial of time. For instance: who will provide the repair in case all goes wrong?Anybody know much about these Polini E-P3+ motors by any chance?
The Dolan looks quite nice! Have not seen one before.Remember this was over 8.5 years so I think you are doing pretty well!
I honestly think the motor is toast, I've never heard noises like it before! That Land Cruiser was insane, they tried everything to stop it working but failed!
I'm thinking about treating myself and forking out on a new bike, this one caught my eye but I'm unsure about the motor although looking at the reviews online they seem pretty robust...I have used Dolan Bikes in the past and they have a great rep! Anybody know much about these Polini E-P3+ motors by any chance?
Link to the bike!
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Dolan GXE Carbon Road Polini e-Bike - Shimano 12s 105 R7170-DI2
www.dolan-bikes.com
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Polini are Italian, family firm, long established, think since the 1950s in motorbikes and mopeds. Their ebike motors are popular in Italy and are very reliable -they are remarkable because are designed to be easily repaired. Polini issue a parts list (with codes) so you can just order whatever part of the motor needs repairing, this is how they've always operated with their petol motorbike engines and uniquely have carried on with e bikes.Remember this was over 8.5 years so I think you are doing pretty well!
I honestly think the motor is toast, I've never heard noises like it before! That Land Cruiser was insane, they tried everything to stop it working but failed!
I'm thinking about treating myself and forking out on a new bike, this one caught my eye but I'm unsure about the motor although looking at the reviews online they seem pretty robust...I have used Dolan Bikes in the past and they have a great rep! Anybody know much about these Polini E-P3+ motors by any chance?
Link to the bike!
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Dolan GXE Carbon Road Polini e-Bike - Shimano 12s 105 R7170-DI2
www.dolan-bikes.com
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Sounds ike the two are poles apart; Polini been around for 80 years, I just checked. They make parts for motor sports, motor bikes/mopeds and even flight (ultralight motors) with a solid long term engineering reputation. Built their first e bike motor 10 years ago. Sell e motors systems to Italian boutique high end brands like Olmo, De Rosa and Bianchi, with Dolan fitting neatly alongside those road bike brands. Can't see any problems there. Spesh/Trek in a way are more vulnerable being dependent on just bike sales in a volatile market facing a Chinese tsunami. People will still be buying Vespas, Yamahas, Aprillas and Hondas with Polini parts for years to come. And they fit perfectly with the Right To Repair legislation just passed, keeping their motors running for years just as their motorbike parts have done for decades.The issue with a smaller e-bike system manufacturer is they often go bust. Remember Fazua? Once a brand chosen by TREK and many others, now Porsche has dumped them. What is the local presence of Polini in the UK?
While you cannot lose with Shimano, and especially Bosch.
The problem is, it is not a British company.Sounds ike the two are poles apart; Polini been around for 80 years, I just checked. They make parts for motor sports, motor bikes/mopeds and even flight (ultralight motors) with a solid long term engineering reputation. Built their first e bike motor 10 years ago. Sell e motors systems to Italian boutique high end brands like Olmo, De Rosa and Bianchi, with Dolan fitting neatly alongside those road bike brands. Can't see any problems there. Spesh/Trek in a way are more vulnerable being dependent on just bike sales in a volatile market facing a Chinese tsunami. People will still be buying Vespas, Yamahas, Aprillas and Hondas with Polini parts for years to come. And they fit perfectly with the Right To Repair legislation just passed, keeping their motors running for years just as their motorbike parts have done for decades.
Thanks for your input Stefan, I have no desire to ride on gravel and Polini are far from unknown with 10 years in the e bike motor industry! My only sticking point as you have mentioned is the lack of a UK presence and that is why I haven't already ordered! However I have been doing a lot of reading for the past few days and I'm liking what I have learned about Polini and their motors!I wouldn't take any risk related to an unknown e-bike system. There were many e-bike motor brands who didn't stand the trial of time. For instance: who will provide the repair in case all goes wrong?
Recently, Yako reviewed Orbea Denna (Shimano) and Canyon Grizzle: OnFLy (Bosch). He said Denna was the right e-bike if you were a road cyclist with some desire to ride gravel.
Giant have lost it on the e bike front sadly Dave, all just high end bikes with hub drives now which do not interest me in the slightest!The Dolan looks quite nice! Have not seen one before.
I'd love to see Giant hear your story and step up to help in some way.
In looking at the Giant GB site there's slim pickins for a mid drive right now...
Thanks Rás, would you believe I was watching that exact video earlier!Polini are Italian, family firm, long established, think since the 1950s in motorbikes and mopeds. Their ebike motors are popular in Italy and are very reliable -they are remarkable because are designed to be easily repaired. Polini issue a parts list (with codes) so you can just order whatever part of the motor needs repairing, this is how they've always operated with their petol motorbike engines and uniquely have carried on with e bikes.
Dolan are from Lancashire and a long time track, road gravel and cross bike brand, very highly regarded. Sir Chris Hoy rides Dolan bikes, broke records on them.
I didn't even know they made ebikes and fascinating they went with Polini motors! Worth you checking them out for sure, see what warranty they provide etc. Given your mileage Rab a motor you can repair (or somebody can) might be worth looking at.
Alex bike tester, English, lives in Italy and does deep dives into motor systems, mostly electric MTBs. Here he digs down into the repairability of Polini - pretty amazing, 3 year guarantee and will repair old motors, 7 years old etc and then give you a new 1 year warranty on the motor, plus all parts replacement:
Might be worth calling Dolan in Lancashire and seeing if you could test ride and talk to them about it. I didn't notice if it has a removable battery, looked very sleek so maybe not. and agreed that is not helpful to your long rides.Thanks for your input Stefan, I have no desire to ride on gravel and Polini are far from unknown with 10 years in the e bike motor industry! My only sticking point as you have mentioned is the lack of a UK presence and that is why I haven't already ordered! However I have been doing a lot of reading for the past few days and I'm liking what I have learned about Polini and their motors!
Giant have lost it on the e bike front sadly Dave, all just high end bikes with hub drives now which do not interest me in the slightest!
Thanks Rás, would you believe I was watching that exact video earlier!I really like what I have been reading regarding this motor, its just the lack of a UK presence that's holding me back but I am very close to ordering as the bike ticks all my boxes...
Removable battery for me is a must, I have to carry the bike up 2 flights of stairs and If I need to add another battery in the future its a no brainer! High power assist for the big climbs is probably top of my list, this motor will be very similar to my Yamaha in that respect! I have purchased from Dolan in the past and know they are well respected in the UK bike world, they introduced their Atreus e bike in 2022/23 but it was a hub drive which didn't interest me!
Thanks for your input guys, I really appreciate it!
It definitely has a removable battery and good point regarding the test ride, they are around 200 miles away so its doable!M
Might be worth calling Dolan in Lancashire and seeing if you could test ride and talk to them about it. I didn't notice if it has a removable battery, looked very sleek so maybe not. and agreed that is not helpful to your long rides.
You could watch the video from @Yako though. He says you possibly could replace the Orbea Denna wheels with yours (hopefully they would match?) Or, just put more skinny slick tyres on the existing wheels. Nowadays, 32-33 mm for a road bike is OK. Not sure how it is with the battery on Denna. They offer a Range Extender as well. Denna is pretty lightweight for a road/gravel e-bike, and as Yako says it is very fast, "with the road bike DNA".I have no desire to ride on gravel
I did watch it, thanks for the link Stefan! The battery is integrated though so its a no from me!You could watch the video from @Yako though. He says you possibly could replace the Orbea Denna wheels with yours (hopefully they would match?) Or, just put more skinny slick tyres on the existing wheels. Nowadays, 32-33 mm for a road bike is OK. Not sure how it is with the battery on Denna. They offer a Range Extender as well. Denna is pretty lightweight for a road/gravel e-bike, and as Yako says it is very fast, "with the road bike DNA".
The issue with road e-bikes is these are usually equipped with a hub drive for a very light weight.
13.9 kg. I easily carry a 17 kg Vado SL upstairs (3 flights).Removable battery for me is a must, I have to carry the bike up 2 flights of stairs and If I need to add another battery in the future its a no brainer!
Range extenders are almost as expensive as the original batteries and very low wattage, I prefer to have another battery due to the long distances I ride!13.9 kg. I easily carry a 17 kg Vado SL upstairs (3 flights).
Range Extenders.
It would be a way worse if you had to store the e-bike in an unheated place.
Oh that's closer than I thought. And good news on the battery.It definitely has a removable battery and good point regarding the test ride, they are around 200 miles away so its doable!
Yes, the GB site and the US site are lacking in choice indeed sadly.Giant have lost it on the e bike front sadly Dave, all just high end bikes with hub drives now which do not interest me in the slightest!