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That's a great deal, thanks for telling us. I just bought 2 ST1's last month :(

I always have this image of slipping off the pedal and those pins gouging my leg

I wear a helmet, have been a critical care nurse for 30 years, and used to teach the Motorcycle Safety Foundation classes, several points to make. After 40 years of age, your brain/skull is a lot less able to take a blow than when you were younger, the suspensory system in the brain vault...

I'm thinking you might need a second battery.

Microsoft makes a phone? Hell, I thought Elop sold MS a galosh factory. (Link Removed - No Longer Exists)

You and I think alike, why reinvent the wheel? We're nearly all carrying around a micro computer in out pockets, some good software and a Bluetooth transmitter, and a mount for the phone and you're set.

The Bosch stuff looks really good. Nice to see a huge corporation throw some weight into R&D and ebike manufacturing.

It's going to be interesting, the demographic of ebike owners is a bit older, we have more $ and we vote more often, without those 2 factors, I'd say it's a lost cause, but I think it may well turn out in favor of the ebikes. Not the monster Stealth Bomber type of ebikes, but the <750 watt bikes.

That's awesome

$100 PRS-5 For some reason, Park used non stainless hardware, and it's got some serious rust, will be swapping it all out for stainless fasteners, should cost all of $10 to make it pretty again :-)

With those requirements, I'd consider building a mid drive, my next one will be a carbon fiber frame with a mid drive, am waiting for another generation or 2 of motors first though

A lot of the guys who DIY keep an eye on craigslist for their next frame, the Giants with dual suspension seem to be pretty popular

Happy to help, YouTube is invaluable for this kind of stuff. Please post pictures of your project :)

The gear ratio is actually lower on the Platinum, with a 50/11 versus a 52/11 for the Elite, a couple of teeth on a chainring make a pretty significant difference at a given cadence.

The gearing on the Patterson is a bit too low, and holy crap the Schlumpf is $700. I'd rather put an 8Fun mid motor on it, LOL.

Great post, thanks :)

The Zzippers are pretty loud when you go over bumps, I don't think it/they would meet your needs.

Welcome, the 8Fun looks like a great motor/concept, what frame are you going to put it on? Planned battery? There's a massive thread over at endless-sphere on that motor, have you been over there? Don't want to lose you, but it seems like a great resource. There's also an install video on...