California tries to limit to 250 watt???

[DaveMatthews]

Outside of the regulatory, sufficient power for an ebike depends on multiple factors: fitness of the rider, terrain, road safety, cargo load, and sometimes, damnit, I just want to get to and from work.

Personally, I like a 750w motor that can run 1200+ watts. I recently put a rear Grin All-Axle hubmotor and Phaserunner controller on a 52v bike. It's quite the fast ebike, with a bi-directional throttle for accelerating and braking. The work I do is physical, so it's now my work bike.

Otherwise, I have lately been riding this approaching eighteen year-old ebike:
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24 volt, 250 watts of slow-speed throttleless front hubmotor fun!

It all depends on what you want or need to do. So I'm keeping a close eye on legislation and/or enforcement.
And this sweet thing might soon get a legal maximum speed limit set via controller:

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Classic!

 

[Chargeride]

Are we still be confused by the 250w limit?
Its just EU gobblygook that sums up their entire attitude to truth so they can ban this and allow that in the big lawyers book of deception.

We have a 250w limit, but the 1.5kw Avinox is legal.

They'll allow it till the greasing of palms dries up or someone famous gets run over and starts a campaign backed by the right people.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

but the 1.5kw Avinox is legal.

Who said that?

 

[PedalUma]

I contacted my representative. This is what he said:
Agree that the bill is now problematic with the amendments from the Transportation Committee. I have spoken with the author and expressed concerns, and have also requested that my name be removed as a co-author given the changes to the original bill.

 

[PedalUma]

I wanted to tell a mom to download the donor form from the UCSF Transplant Center and have both parents notarize it. Then they can get vouchers to have their 14-year-old's illegal 70 mph motorcycle's brakes worked on for free. Lots of old guys in the Silicon Valley want fresh kidneys, livers, and hearts and are willing to pay.

 

[Chargeride]

Who said that?

The official legislEUation

 

[Chargeride]

After that ride Im having a philisophical crisis.
Our first problem is we remember doing it on motorbikes, and there lays the issue.
The bikes shrunk that entire area to blip..blip, tear it all up.
Start in the town ,in Aberystwth for tea and biscuits.
Exhilerating but far removed from the consequences.
The more power we desire, the smaller the task becomes and Avinox power just means letting the ride become an escalator to the top.
It was very hard, but we made it and the rest of the ride was fantastic, you're in the space at 650W, and the descent felt earned.
The important bit is having equal motor peformance, so youre all sharing the pain.
I actually want range not power, carrying the second battery in the backpack was a cinch, forgot it was there in fact.

 

[PedalUma]

That Avinox looks nice.

 

[6zfshdb]

An idiot riding a 250 watt bike can still do a lot of damage.

 

[Chargeride]