With 125% tariffs, will the e-bike market die?

Only thing an illegal should be used for is filling an airplane seat out of the country.
Some of us think the term "illegal" in this context is intentionally dehumanizing and is used to justify any foul act done to them. You can believe in rule of law and agree that immigration here is messed up and needs to be fixed and still treat the people in the mess like humans.
 
I agree if there is such a person.
That's the heart of it right there. If you believe you live in a savage and brutish world there is no room for compassion, kindness, and decency and all of those admirable qualities are just weaknesses that make you a target.

What I do not understand is that some people think the "solution" is to make the world more savage and brutish and implement a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
Some of us think the term "illegal" in this context is intentionally dehumanizing
Just think how boring the world would be if everyone thought the same.

I used the term because I was replying to someone elses useage. Although I agree with the term in what appears to be both of our uses.
 
Fascists are prone to say, 'We need to endure making the world more hash and cruel with pain, if we are to make it better." This is very different than Christ in putting compassion and forgiveness now first. One is Christ one is anti-Christ.
 
Anyone thinks the man is not demented? :D
There have been videos of Donald Trump doing weird crap for forty years. It was obvious even in the 1980s that there was something seriously wrong with the guy. A lot of it was entertaining if you watched it on teevee from a safe distance. But no person in their right mind would want to do business with that guy, be a member of his family, or allow him to have any power over you.

But here we are.

(And when I say "entertaining" I mean it in the kind of gross and disgusting sense of when you are watching a disabled person struggle with something).
 
Trump flip flopped around parties for influence, even donating to Kamalas campaign
CNN gave him his break by backing him to stand, he was popular, entertaining and larger than life and not remotely seen as a threat to State order.

Everything was fine and cordial till he challenged the entrenched system and the 2016 win was the biggest upheaval in American politics.
That is when the true face of the machine showed itself, I would call that his lasting legacy.
All sensible politics went out of the window, remember how horrified we were when he tweeted , how hilariously naive that looks now.
People I knew at the time thought civilisation had come to an end because a US president tweeted, one girl in the office was crying as the media whipped up a storm of fear and hate, it was literally on par with 9/11.

And now in 2025 we are here..
 
"And now in 2025 we are here.."

That article was published based on polls collected in November of last year......perceptions have changed since?
 
Actually , I am excited on the direction of this country . Anyone that can take what the vile liberals have thrown at this man and not fold is impressive to say the least . Would have never expected this when I voted for him in 16.
 
I'm also enthusiastic for the future... My only disappointment was that there wasn't more of a cross wind on July 13th.
Just 1mph more would have been enough but I'm sure that the next incident will be more successful.
 
We need to lock this thread. Quoted from the mods:

"This is a site about electric bikes, not politics, religion or penguins."

Free speech is a laudable goal, but it has never been the reality in the United States, except maybe in your own bedroom or neighborhood church, bar, or whatever. This forum ain't any of those places.

The rules of the road in public have always been: "Keep your mouth shut, your door locked, and watch your six." Maybe you think all that is gonna change-- I feel you. I used to think that, too. Brutal experience has taught me otherwise.

Just because someone's opinion is socially or politically acceptable now, yesterday, last year, ten years ago doesn't mean it won't get you thrown in prison-- or worse -- tomorrow, next year, or ten years from now.

Everybody talk nice, a'ight?
 
We need to lock this thread. Quoted from the mods:

"This is a site about electric bikes, not politics, religion or penguins."



How about penguins on ebikes?
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I was waiting for it... I knew someone here would come through!

I SO MUCH want to talk about how much I love Penguins, particularly African penguins, who I got observe for hours at the Flamingo hotel in Vegas when...

NO! I must not talk about penguins! Everybody, don't even THINK about penguins. (Then let us know how well that works.)
 
Actually , I am excited on the direction of this country . Anyone that can take what the vile liberals have thrown at this man and not fold is impressive to say the least . Would have never expected this when I voted for him in 16.
This from The Huffpost:

“Let’s be clear: Taylor Swift isn’t any less powerful, beautiful or relevant because a president said something petty. If anything, it says more about his fragility than her status. Let’s hold adults to adult standards — especially when they’re speaking to the world,” Sheehan said.

All the same applies to T's absurd comments about Bruce Springsteen as well. Someone must have forgotten to give him his lollipop after his Mid-East trip.

Posted by a vile liberal.
 
What's not in the big beautiful bill? EVERYTHING he promised working and retired people... Tax on tips, tax, tax on SS, tax on overtime? Nope none of it is in there.. MAGA!
 
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