Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

[rochrunner]

Welcome to the club, @GGinMP . I'm using the small Hafny bar-end mirror and like it for the most part. It doesn't have the field of vision of the Mirrcycle that I've used on a number of bikes, but is very clean looking and goes with the SL's style IMO.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Welcome to the club, @GGinMP . I'm using the small Hafny bar-end mirror and like it for the most part. It doesn't have the field of vision of the Mirrcycle that I've used on a number of bikes, but is very clean looking and goes with the SL's style IMO.

Oh, I use Mirrycle on all my e-bikes, using the SL

 

[CodyDog]

Thanks in large part to the input here, I’m now a member of the Turbo Vado SL club. I used to ride my Specialized Crossroads hybrid (analog) bike, but lost interest and lost stamina over the last 20 years. Planning a move to a less busy environment with a lot of beachside and low-traffic forest roads and paved paths made me want to get back into biking, but with some assistance.

The decision to pick a Vado vs. a Como was easy for me coming from a Crossroads (I prefer a slightly forward posture), so the big choice was the regular Vado vs. SL. One one side I thought, I’m paying a lot for a new bike, so why not get as much ”improved” power vs. my non-electric? The lighter weight of the SL was a big selling point, but so was realizing that getting exercise is the reason I want to get back on a bike. On a test ride I found it was easy to feel that the Vado SL was a normal analog bike; it didn’t feel like it was pushing me along, I just felt a little stronger. The Sport mode was great, and I think I’ll save the Turbo for hills. As I gain stamina, I I hope to use Eco more. That feeling of a “normal” bike that gives me some added stamina/strength made me decide that the SL was better for me than a regular Vado.

My old helmet was too old, so I got a Specialized Echelon II (very comfortable!) and my dealer recommended the Arbus Bordo 6100 lock as a “coffee stop” lock. Not something I’d use for anything other than when I need to pop into the market or coffee shop during the daytime. He likes it because it’s easy to mount on the frame and therefore it’s always with you.

Next, I’m looking at a Hafny left-hand mirror and I’m leaning towards the M903 shape (probably the silver mirror), and some type of Apple AirTag holder “just in case.” I can fit the bike in my Civic Hatchback with the front wheel on, but if I want to go somewhere with my wife and I may look at a car rack bike holder. I have Thule Evo bars for standup paddle boards, so I’d just need the bike holder add-on.

My garage door as a background isn’t very exciting, so as soon as possible I’ll get new pictures by Spanish Bay or the Lone Cypress on the Monterey peninsula.

Welcome to the club. The SL is a fantastic bike.

 

[GGinMP]

I know the Mirrycle is popular, but I don’t want to cut the grip end on my new bike and I didn’t think the Mirrycle has a bar-mount option like the Hafny.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I don’t want to cut the grip end on my new bike

You can drill a hole in the grip instead
I love Ergon grips as these include bar-end plugs that can be removed.

 

[Pork Rind]

You can drill a hole in the grip instead
I love Ergon grips as these include bar-end plugs that can be removed.

That’s what I did. The Ergon grips are basically the only mod I’ve made that I consider mandatory. I got the GP3s so i should have another hand position since my right hand tends to get tingly.

 

[GGinMP]

That’s what I did. The Ergon grips are basically the only mod I’ve made that I consider mandatory. I got the GP3s so i should have another hand position since my right hand tends to get tingly.

Ergon grips look like a great upgrade as I have some arthritis and extra hand cushion/support/positions could help (and would also allow a bar-end mirror). The GP4s might be more to my liking, but I’ll also have to decide on small vs. large. My hand is approx. 7 1/4” from the bottom of my palm to the tip of my middle finger; I’ve always considered my hands to be on the small side but I don’t know if that’s true for their grip sizing. Too many choices!!!

 

[BioWheel]

That’s what I did. The Ergon grips are basically the only mod I’ve made that I consider mandatory. I got the GP3s so i should have another hand position since my right hand tends to get tingly.

I have to say I'm probably the one person that doesn't like those grips. I find them too restrictive. Think about it - you don't always rest your whole hand on the grips. Sometimes you only use part of your hand and the Ergon takes that away. And even the little bit extra weight on the end of the bars to me - still makes control a little bit more squirely. (Pretty technical description huh).

I think the stock SL grips are perfect. Thank goodness we have so many choices for different riders.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I have to say I'm probably the one person that doesn't like those grips. I find them too restrictive. Think about it - you don't always rest your whole hand on the grips. Sometimes you only use part of your hand and the Ergon takes that away. And even the little bit extra weight on the end of the bars to me - still makes control a little bit more squirely. (Pretty technical description huh).

I think the stock SL grips are perfect. Thank goodness we have so many choices for different riders.

Specialized grips for Vado SL are very similar to Ergon GP1 (the ones without the bar-ends).

I do not completely agree with the

you don't always rest your whole hand on the grips. Sometimes you only use part of your hand and the Ergon takes that away.

or I cannot understand what you say. With a properly angled bar-end of the Ergon GP2, you just rest the "mount of Venus" of your palm onto the beautifully carved recess between the bar-end and the grip; and your two small fingers delicately keep the bar-end from the outside. Let me tell you about my experience:

I rode for many months with GP3 on one e-bike and the GP2 on another; I decided I liked the GP2 better. Then I bought Innerbarends 411 to find out I was riding for 95% (I thought) of my ride time in the Innerbarends. Why would I need the bar-end then? (I thought). Eventually, I ended up with that setup:

• Ergon GP2 and Innerbarends 411 (Vado)
• SQlab 710 grips and integrated Innerbarends 410/402 with no bar-ends (Vado SL)

Just to find out that I keep reaching for the non-existent bar end on my Vado SL I have deprived myself of a very important hand position option!

 

[BioWheel]

Specialized grips for Vado SL are very similar to Ergon GP1 (the ones without the bar-ends).

I do not completely agree with the

or I cannot understand what you say. With a properly angled bar-end of the Ergon GP2, you just rest the "mount of Venus" of your palm onto the beautifully carved recess between the bar-end and the grip; and your two small fingers delicately keep the bar-end from the outside. Let me tell you about my experience:

I rode for many months with GP3 on one e-bike and the GP2 on another; I decided I liked the GP2 better. Then I bought Innerbarends 411 to find out I was riding for 95% (I thought) of my ride time in the Innerbarends. Why would I need the bar-end then? (I thought). Eventually, I ended up with that setup:

• Ergon GP2 and Innerbarends 411 (Vado)
• SQlab 710 grips and integrated Innerbarends 410/402 with no bar-ends (Vado SL)

Just to find out that I keep reaching for the non-existent bar end on my Vado SL I have deprived myself of a very important hand position option!

Grip your Ergon's. Now move your hand's out a little. That's right - you can't.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Grip your Ergon's. Now move your hand's out a little. That's right - you can't.

With so many hand positions available... Why should I do that Karl? To each their own!

 

[GGinMP]

Grip your Ergon's. Now move your hand's out a little. That's right - you can't.

Should you want a wider grip, can you push the Ergon extensions down? Granted that would defeat their “extra” grip, but it seems like it would allow a different change (to a wider grip).

 

[Stefan Mikes]

can you push the Ergon extensions down?

You cannot.

 

[Seasider]

I personally prefer the Specialized grips on my Vado to the recently installed Ergons GP1s on my Peugeot. I feel the rubber is softer on the stock ones.

 

[Pork Rind]

Grip your Ergon's. Now move your hand's out a little. That's right - you can't.

Sure you can. That’s what I use those extension for in the first place. Anyway, you can always get the Ergon grips wilt the nub.

 

[rochrunner]

Ergon GP2 and Innerbarends 411 (Vado)

Ergon GP2 and Innerbarends 411 (Vado)

• SQlab 710 grips and integrated Innerbarends 410/402 with no bar-ends (Vado SL)

Just to find out that I keep reaching for the non-existent bar end on my Vado SL I have deprived myself of a very important hand position option!

@Stefan Mikes What mounting arrangement do you use? On my SL, the left side has the grip, then the remote, then the brake lever. On the right the sequence is grip, brake, shifter. Which side of the left-side remote do you put the bar end? On the right side, does it make it more difficult to reach the shifter when you're on the regular grip?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

@Stefan Mikes What mounting arrangement do you use? On my SL, the left side has the grip, then the remote, then the brake lever. On the right the sequence is grip, brake, shifter. Which side of the left-side remote do you put the bar end? On the right side, does it make it more difficult to reach the shifter when you're on the regular grip?

As I'm in Helsinki Finland for five days, am afraid I cannot answer your question right now

 

[mogulman]

I have some Ergon grips, but have been using the Specialized grips. I do find there are less hand positions on the Ergon, because the flat part is wider. Once, I tried Ergon grips on my MTB. Didn't work well because on the downhill I didn't feel like I could grip the handlebars as firmly with the ergo type of grip and still be able to use my brakes.

 

[mogulman]

FYI. I experimented some more on a long ride without a lot of hills. There was a 20-25mph wind the whole way, so I used Sport mode (65%) the entire time. I rode 31 miles, 702 ft ascent, and used up about 78% of the battery. This was on a paved bike path. I was a little worried I would run out of battery, but it seemed to last.

 

[waghmare]

I am finding the 2022 VadoSL5 grips are really nice so didn't feel need to get Ergon GP1/GP2 yet.
However, those innerbarends that Stefan has; could work well for me given I tend to put my hands towards the middle of handlebar all the time when I get tired holding on the grips on wider side.