What bike you will pick as a first e-mtb? Turbo Levo carbon comp 2025 vs Turbo levo 2025 vs Turbo levo SL comp 2025 with new genie shock

[Stefan Mikes]

Levo (Alloy) is a sure bet. In a highly improbable situation of an alloy frame crack, it is possible to weld it. Now, if the carbon frame cracks, you will need a very good specialist to glue it; or you have to buy a new frame at an exorbitant price!

Now, I do not recommend a Levo SL for you. Yes it is true you could use a Range Extender with an SL e-bike. The total available charge will be 480 W compared to 700 Wh on the full power Levo. I need to mention any Specialized e-bike has several tools to tune the assistance, so you can ride in a low power on road and with higher power uphill and especially in the terrain.

My own experience:
I used to own a Giant Trance E+ that was very similar to the full power Levo of the same generation. There was no hill I could not conquer! That full power e-MTB could climb any hill like a mountain goat! (I gave that e-bike to a family member after I discovered I was not really into technical singletrack mountain biking).

Later, I rented a Levo SL (one generation back) out of the curiosity, and went for a terrain ride in my area that almost had no hills but a lot of sand instead. While I liked how Levo SL was handling rough terrain, I felt it was underpowered for my expectations, and especially it rode very slowly.

Interestingly, I ride a Vado SL for a similar terrain to the one I rode with the Levo SL, and Vado SL meets my expectations: a different geometry (more a gravel bike), and faster gearing.

I would say: a Levo SL is for connoisseurs that can provide a lot of technique and leg power in hard terrain. It is decidedly not an e-MTB for the beginners! It does not help the SL e-bike is a couple kilogrammes more lightweight than the full power brother. What you need in the beginning is the motor power and a big battery.

Additionally: do not push ideas such as extra wheel-set or upgrading the Levo. It comes with premium components. Many newcomers think they would need to upgrade anything. Incorrect. Why improve the industry reference e-bike?

 

[Prairie Dog]

This is typical of the local trails that I ride on with the Levo. I feel that I can push the bike to its limits and attack singles aggressively without ever having to worry about whether or not the suspension is compliant enough over roots or drops or if the brakes will let me down on steep technical descents. FYI, I only ride tarmac when I’m transitioning to a different trailhead. Otherwise, it’s a serious trail bike.

As a newcomer to the discipline of MTBs, perhaps the Tero X might be the ideal compromise if you find yourself dividing time between commuting, touring or as a weekend warrior ready to hit the trails whenever the urge compels you. FS is nice albeit short travel and it sports a dropper post when you might encounter the occasional gnarly drop BUT also has a versatile side to it for urban riding with rack, integrated lights, fenders.

 

[Slayer2ez]

Levo (Alloy) is a sure bet. In a highly improbable situation of an alloy frame crack, it is possible to weld it. Now, if the carbon frame cracks, you will need a very good specialist to glue it; or you have to buy a new frame at an exorbitant price!

Now, I do not recommend a Levo SL for you. Yes it is true you could use a Range Extender with an SL e-bike. The total available charge will be 480 W compared to 700 Wh on the full power Levo. I need to mention any Specialized e-bike has several tools to tune the assistance, so you can ride in a low power on road and with higher power uphill and especially in the terrain.

My own experience:
I used to own a Giant Trance E+ that was very similar to the full power Levo of the same generation. There was no hill I could not conquer! That full power e-MTB could climb any hill like a mountain goat! (I gave that e-bike to a family member after I discovered I was not really into technical singletrack mountain biking).

Later, I rented a Levo SL (one generation back) out of the curiosity, and went for a terrain ride in my area that almost had no hills but a lot of sand instead. While I liked how Levo SL was handling rough terrain, I felt it was underpowered for my expectations, and especially it rode very slowly.

Interestingly, I ride a Vado SL for a similar terrain to the one I rode with the Levo SL, and Vado SL meets my expectations: a different geometry (more a gravel bike), and faster gearing.

I would say: a Levo SL is for connoisseurs that can provide a lot of technique and leg power in hard terrain. It is decidedly not an e-MTB for the beginners! It does not help the SL e-bike is a couple kilogrammes more lightweight than the full power brother. What you need in the beginning is the motor power and a big battery.

Additionally: do not push ideas such as extra wheel-set or upgrading the Levo. It comes with premium components. Many newcomers think they would need to upgrade anything. Incorrect. Why improve the industry reference e-bike?

Okay thank you! i think the same about SL, also we currently live not in year of SL 1.2 launch and there a lot different motors and brands trying to get higher power&less weight and SL probably will be slowly more niche option for people who exactly like SL geometry or going for S-works which is still super low weight. In my case 19.1 kg SL comp carbon will be not crazy light and power will be significant lower from what i can have with turbo levo
i ll take turbo levo and give a big bet on it to cover all my needs

Last question if you will have a chance to check Technical Specifications of Turbo levo line of 2025, There Turbo levo 2025, Turbo Levo comp alloy and Turbo Levo Comp Carbon
I ll send links hope it's ok, help me to choose best value for money between that 3, currently after all i read and understand i m staying with Turbo levo 2025, the cheapest version
If there no any big improvements in other 2 options comp alloy and comp carbon to pay extra i ll just get Turbo Levo and will be waiitng for delivery of it ^_^
I anyway need to think about bike for my wife and hope to step by step get a car in 2025 for my needs and going somewhere with bikes and my dog
1. Turbo Levo 2025: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-levo/p/4231082?color=5369824-4231082
2. Turbo Levo comp alloy 2025: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-levo-comp-alloy/p/4231879?color=5432534-4231879
3. Turbo levo comp Carbon 2025: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-levo-comp-carbon/p/4274924?color=5430535-4274924
I not sure that 23,17 kg on Turbo comp carbon will win a lot for me vs Turbo Levo with 24,21 kg, there Sram GX vs Sram NX chain/cassette,shift levers, Sram Db 8 brakes vs SRam Maven Bronze, Marzocchi bomber vs Fox Float X, and some more little differences.
What would you recommend if we compare it and prices? I will be totally fine with alloy and money saved?

And btw about size i m 179 height (5,87) and ~86,5kg (190,5 LB) weight atm, i plan to buy S4 size, when i tested Tero i was on L and it was pretty comfort, i found that S4 for my height is totally ok, i still can be on S2/S3 as i understand but S4 gives a bit more stability on bike on high speeds, that probably what more important for me

And thank you for your replies guys! You really saved me on purchase, i was almost purchasing SL a day ago and at current moment i think i was wrong with it

 

[Slayer2ez]

This is typical of the local trails that I ride on with the Levo. I feel that I can push the bike to its limits and attack singles aggressively without ever having to worry about whether or not the suspension is compliant enough over roots or drops or if the brakes will let me down on steep technical descents. FYI, I only ride tarmac when I’m transitioning to a different trailhead. Otherwise, it’s a serious trail bike.

As a newcomer to the discipline of MTBs, perhaps the Tero X might be the ideal compromise if you find yourself dividing time between commuting, touring or as a weekend warrior ready to hit the trails whenever the urge compels you. FS is nice albeit short travel and it sports a dropper post when you might encounter the occasional gnarly drop BUT also has a versatile side to it for urban riding with rack, integrated lights, fenders.

Yes, friend! Tero x6.0 or X5.0 was my first idea after Tero 3.0 drive test but sadly there only x4.0 version in stock and no any news about when it wil lcome back to delivery
Tero x6.0 probably could be an all in one for all my needs without any limitations, it not great in everything but it pretty good in all

I will re ask a shop but i think from Tero line i can get only: 3.0, X4.0 XL (no fit my height i think), 5.0 EQ and probably 4.0 pass-through EQ that what available

So i think my way to stack with Levo and if i will need road ride for long time i will look for some road/gravel used bikes on second market

Hope some medium rides on levo on road/park will not make any big problems or components wear out much faster. If a way to get tires for road can save me for days when i ll go just on roads mostly, i can look to buy it, but i suppose it not that easy to change it quick unless i ll have extra wheels which is too difficult and expensive. I m not good in mechanical part, i still have a lot things to learn about service such premium bike and make sure to good handle it
And i already keep in mind that i ll need to ride 80 cadence to save motor longer and of course not start to go climb hill with small gear. After every clean add some oil on chain and scroll it, after purchase i ll ask for service maintance to prepare everything for my use and will use service check every ~300 km of ride. And never wet wash area with battery
That what i keep in mind about service, i m sure that not all i need to know but something

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Yes, friend! Tero x6.0 or X5.0 was my first idea after Tero 3.0 drive test but sadly there only x4.0 version in stock and no any news about when it wil lcome back to delivery
Tero x6.0 probably could be an all in one for all my needs without any limitations, it not great in everything but it pretty good in all

My personal experience is Tero X is a very heavy e-bike, and I would not buy it for myself

Hope some medium rides on levo on road/park will not make any big problems or components wear out much faster.

No problems until you derestrict or reprogram the e-bike to a higher max assisted speed than planned for the e-bike (Levo is 25 km/h in Europe, and 32 km/h in Canada and the U.S.) The e-MTB is designed to climb not to ride fast on roads. If you want to ride a Levo fast on roads, you will need to use a lot of assistance and ride in the highest gears, so:

• The smallest sprockets of the cassette will wear out soon... (read on to understand the consequence)
• Your battery will need a bigger number of recharges, which will degrade the expensive battery sooner than you think.

Levo is designed to climb, and ride downhill unassisted (gravity). While the climb is always slow, the gravity downhill ride is fast without assistance or pedalling (you often ride standing on the pedals, the dropper seat-post down, your butt far in the rear). Normally, the rides on the flat are occasional on a Trail e-bike such as Levo. Trust me, even 25 km/h is a lot on a trail!

If a way to get tires for road can save me for days when i ll go just on roads mostly, i can look to buy it, but i suppose it not that easy to change it quick unless i ll have extra wheels which is too difficult and expensive. I m not good in mechanical part, i still have a lot things to learn about service such premium bike and make sure to good handle it

Please even stop thinking of multiple wheelsets or changing the tyres on the fly. Nobody does it for a day's ride.

And i already keep in mind that i ll need to ride 80 cadence to save motor longer and of course not start to go climb hill with small gear. After every clean add some oil on chain and scroll it, after purchase i ll ask for service maintance to prepare everything for my use and will use service check every ~300 km of ride. And never wet wash area with battery
That what i keep in mind about service, i m sure that not all i need to know but something

You actually need to:

• Recharge the battery before each ride
• Check the tyre pressure and re-inflate in case of need
• Degrease and lube the chain once in a week if you ride regularly.

Also, please visit your Local Bike Store for the first service post the first 200-300 km. The dealer will regulate anything necessary in your e-bike and re-tighten any loose bolt or screw. No need for more servicing in, say, 1 year. Yes, you should occasionally check the chain wear, possibly after 1600 km ridden.

1. Turbo Levo 2025: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-levo/p/4231082?color=5369824-4231082
2. Turbo Levo comp alloy 2025: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-levo-comp-alloy/p/4231879?color=5432534-4231879
3. Turbo levo comp Carbon 2025: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-levo-comp-carbon/p/4274924?color=5430535-4274924

Please understand that the Turbo Levo is already the gold standard in the market The even higher end components on Comp or Comp Carbon can only be appreciated by experts who bomb the most difficult trails. However, these have a very nasty feature: they are as expensive in the maintenance as your eyes would be watering!

You may think your expenses will end when you have paid for the e-bike. No, the expenses will just begin

• Chain needs to be checked for the stretch (you check it with a special inexpensive gauge). When is has stretched past 0.75%, you must replace the chain, and the new chain is not free
• If you haven't replaced the chain in time, ride at high speed in high gears, or after a longer mileage, the smallest cassette sprockets will wear out. SRAM cassettes are not serviceable, so you have to replace the entire cassette. The higher groupset of the drivetrain, the more expensive cassettes become to the point a cassette may cost several hundred dollar.
• And yes, you have to replace the worn brake pads from time to time.

FYI: In the U.S., the cassette used on Comp Carbon or Comp Alloy costs over $200 before tax. The cassette for basic Turbo Levo costs $85. Do I need to say more?

Now, 24 kg for a full power e-MTB is absolutely not very much.
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@Prairie Dog: Slayer has a dream. Let his dream come true! People need to learn

 

[Stefan Mikes]

@Slayer2ez: Before I forget. The Levo (as any e-MTB) has extremely powerful brakes, most of people not being used to that.

A typical scenario: You are riding your Levo on road with the suspension unlocked (active). Now, you need to suddenly stop (a kid, dog, whatever). You press your brake levers with all your force. Now, the front suspension goes all the way down, the bike stops immediately, and you are flying Over-The-Bars Learn riding slowly, learn braking, and always wear a good helmet! Also, at least partly lock the suspension while on road.

Ask me how I know (Yes, a Levo SL demo ride!)

My buddy suddenly stopped in front of me!

 

[Extreme1]

I just need to chime in here, and make another vote for the alloy frame. When you crash or drop the bike and it lands on a rock or tree branch, the alloy frame will just dent slightly. The carbon frame will crack and will need to be replaced. There is not much of a weight savings with the carbon frame over an alloy frame, especially on a Mtb. The Mtb is going to be quite heavy anyways compared to a road bike.

I have a buddy and his wife that were born and raised in Tbilisi. He moved to California and is now in Portugal.

 

[Prairie Dog]

Yes, friend! Tero x6.0 or X5.0 was my first idea after Tero 3.0 drive test but sadly there only x4.0 version in stock and no any news about when it wil lcome back to delivery
Tero x6.0 probably could be an all in one for all my needs without any limitations, it not great in everything but it pretty good in all

I will re ask a shop but i think from Tero line i can get only: 3.0, X4.0 XL (no fit my height i think), 5.0 EQ and probably 4.0 pass-through EQ that what available

So i think my way to stack with Levo and if i will need road ride for long time i will look for some road/gravel used bikes on second market

It sounds a lot like you’re caught between a rock and a hard place with regards to what models to choose from and available inventory. It’s reasonable to have your cake and eat it too so perhaps the addition of a used commuter might be a good compromise. The Levo certainly won’t disappoint if you deliberately opt to ride in more extreme terrain.

 

[Slayer2ez]

My personal experience is Tero X is a very heavy e-bike, and I would not buy it for myself

No problems until you derestrict or reprogram the e-bike to a higher max assisted speed than planned for the e-bike (Levo is 25 km/h in Europe, and 32 km/h in Canada and the U.S.) The e-MTB is designed to climb not to ride fast on roads. If you want to ride a Levo fast on roads, you will need to use a lot of assistance and ride in the highest gears, so:

• The smallest sprockets of the cassette will wear out soon... (read on to understand the consequence)
• Your battery will need a bigger number of recharges, which will degrade the expensive battery sooner than you think.

Levo is designed to climb, and ride downhill unassisted (gravity). While the climb is always slow, the gravity downhill ride is fast without assistance or pedalling (you often ride standing on the pedals, the dropper seat-post down, your butt far in the rear). Normally, the rides on the flat are occasional on a Trail e-bike such as Levo. Trust me, even 25 km/h is a lot on a trail!

Please even stop thinking of multiple wheelsets or changing the tyres on the fly. Nobody does it for a day's ride.


You actually need to:

• Recharge the battery before each ride
• Check the tyre pressure and re-inflate in case of need
• Degrease and lube the chain once in a week if you ride regularly.

Also, please visit your Local Bike Store for the first service post the first 200-300 km. The dealer will regulate anything necessary in your e-bike and re-tighten any loose bolt or screw. No need for more servicing in, say, 1 year. Yes, you should occasionally check the chain wear, possibly after 1600 km ridden.


Please understand that the Turbo Levo is already the gold standard in the market The even higher end components on Comp or Comp Carbon can only be appreciated by experts who bomb the most difficult trails. However, these have a very nasty feature: they are as expensive in the maintenance as your eyes would be watering!

You may think your expenses will end when you have paid for the e-bike. No, the expenses will just begin

• Chain needs to be checked for the stretch (you check it with a special inexpensive gauge). When is has stretched past 0.75%, you must replace the chain, and the new chain is not free
• If you haven't replaced the chain in time, ride at high speed in high gears, or after a longer mileage, the smallest cassette sprockets will wear out. SRAM cassettes are not serviceable, so you have to replace the entire cassette. The higher groupset of the drivetrain, the more expensive cassettes become to the point a cassette may cost several hundred dollar.
• And yes, you have to replace the worn brake pads from time to time.

FYI: In the U.S., the cassette used on Comp Carbon or Comp Alloy costs over $200 before tax. The cassette for basic Turbo Levo costs $85. Do I need to say more?

Now, 24 kg for a full power e-MTB is absolutely not very much.
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@Prairie Dog: Slayer has a dream. Let his dream come true! People need to learn

I think you absolutely right about cost of service, for me as a beginner who can easy do mistakes, probably much better to buy Turbo Levo in base, save some money and get little cheaper services
I will keep in mind all advices about bike
and soon will do final decesion to buy a bike and start riding on it

 

[Slayer2ez]

I just need to chime in here, and make another vote for the alloy frame. When you crash or drop the bike and it lands on a rock or tree branch, the alloy frame will just dent slightly. The carbon frame will crack and will need to be replaced. There is not much of a weight savings with the carbon frame over an alloy frame, especially on a Mtb. The Mtb is going to be quite heavy anyways compared to a road bike.

I have a buddy and his wife that were born and raised in Tbilisi. He moved to California and is now in Portugal.

That nice! ye i wll go with alloy ty for advice!
And glad to hear about your buddy's wife story, Tbilisi -> Ca -> Portugal is a big life journey i m sure
I m here more like a long stay tourist, later probably will continue my way to other places, will see

 

[Slayer2ez]

It sounds a lot like you’re caught between a rock and a hard place with regards to what models to choose from and available inventory. It’s reasonable to have your cake and eat it too so perhaps the addition of a used commuter might be a good compromise. The Levo certainly won’t disappoint if you deliberately opt to ride in more extreme terrain.

Yes that what i think too, with Levo i ll have a bike ready for any extrime conditions, well dome motor to help with any clims and turbo version will allow me to easy ride for 50-100 km depends on my style and heights
Im sure now that i no need SL for extra 3-4 kg less but much less power and distance motor, my case is probably about turbo version to get a bike ready for easy climbs and a lot support.

And Tero 5.0 will be a good commuter for different terrain or climbs but if i will want to use bike more agressive and take it on different trails and difficult terrain i ll have something not so ready for it. With levo i ll have no problems

I l try to take some test ride in close days on trails near me, probably i ll find some bike close to levo or some levo for a test and will see if i enjoy it more than common ride drives

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Slayer: For your information, all Specialized e-bikes are Turbo What makes the difference is SL

 

[Slayer2ez]

Slayer: For your information, all Specialized e-bikes are Turbo What makes the difference is SL

I m with news guys, i tried few local trails near me, it was pretty cool but i was able to ride only green ones, blue and purple was too difficult and i was at evening alone i just slowly checked it. I can't say i enjoyed so much from what i see on blue trail, i more terryfie because that a down hill ride with many stones/roots high angle to go down and very narrow.
After that try i think that i exactly trails will be not my full time activity on bike, it's cool but it's pretty dangerous on higher difficulty, at least as it looks for me now as i m just beginner and takes a lot time and attention, often when i ll go ride bike i will be tired after work or no well sleep and just have some ride for chill my mind and i don't think trail will be good for it, Probably with time i ll be doing it way easier but at current moment it terrifying me a bit.
I think i will use my future bike 40% for adventure/chill rides, just 20% Trails or high difficultie routes and 40% when i will need to visit some place and go there on bike instead of taxi/bus/legs/car to enjoy a ride instead of stay in full bus or to make me feel sick in a taxi in traffic jams.
For that purposes should i go still with Levo? Can i do all of that comfortly and don't worry much on Levo? Or better to go wtih Tero 5.0 EQ, have ready for roads bike and use it outroads as well?
I still like 45 km/h i ll have on Tero vs 32 km/h on Levo, it's probably useless on Trails but very cool for adventure and time save when i go somewhere. Tero 5.0 Eq has build with option to put smth on back up to 20 kg or use side case on a wheel + garmin radar to info about car behing, it's all look pretty useful: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-tero-50-eq/p/4262679?color=5401084-4262679
But i think on this bike i will have to forget about any high speed mountain rides right? i not sure i will use bike often for that i need a time and practise with it to understand i will be doing trails more or no. But i m 100% want to have big adventures on my bike and travel different roads, different out roads, see cool places within
But at current moment i see my future bike to be: 40% Adventure to ride where i want to visit and view a cool sunset/sunrise/just to take a activity and have some joy of riding, 40% of visit places i need, some shop on other side of city, some cafe, some place to meet with people. And probably 20% will be trail rides, when i will have a enough time and power to go some special place with a group of people or alone and spend a time by riding there and learn on getting better in that

Probably with time and learn into i ll do trails more often, but for current time i want to have a bike i can use for multiple purposes and don't feel i can't take a bike for smth and spent so much money and just go by legs/bus/taxi and my bike just staying at home and waiitng this 1 time per week i taking him for special ride he good for

Please, for what i described recommend me to make final decesion, should i go with Turbo Levo and will be able to do all of that fine, of better to look on Tero/Vado/Creo for that purposes

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I m with news guys, i tried few local trails near me, it was pretty cool but i was able to ride only green ones, blue and purple was too difficult and i was at evening alone i just slowly checked it. I can't say i enjoyed so much from what i see on blue trail, i more terryfie because that a down hill ride with many stones/roots high angle to go down and very narrow.
After that try i think that i exactly trails will be not my full time activity on bike, it's cool but it's pretty dangerous on higher difficulty, at least as it looks for me now as i m just beginner and takes a lot time and attention, often when i ll go ride bike i will be tired after work or no well sleep and just have some ride for chill my mind and i don't think trail will be good for it, Probably with time i ll be doing it way easier but at current moment it terrifying me a bit.
I think i will use my future bike 40% for adventure/chill rides, just 20% Trails or high difficultie routes and 40% when i will need to visit some place and go there on bike instead of taxi/bus/legs/car to enjoy a ride instead of stay in full bus or to make me feel sick in a taxi in traffic jams.
For that purposes should i go still with Levo? Can i do all of that comfortly and don't worry much on Levo? Or better to go wtih Tero 5.0 EQ, have ready for roads bike and use it outroads as well?
I still like 45 km/h i ll have on Tero vs 32 km/h on Levo, it's probably useless on Trails but very cool for adventure and time save when i go somewhere. Tero 5.0 Eq has build with option to put smth on back up to 20 kg or use side case on a wheel + garmin radar to info about car behing, it's all look pretty useful: https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/turbo-tero-50-eq/p/4262679?color=5401084-4262679
But i think on this bike i will have to forget about any high speed mountain rides right? i not sure i will use bike often for that i need a time and practise with it to understand i will be doing trails more or no. But i m 100% want to have big adventures on my bike and travel different roads, different out roads, see cool places within
But at current moment i see my future bike to be: 40% Adventure to ride where i want to visit and view a cool sunset/sunrise/just to take a activity and have some joy of riding, 40% of visit places i need, some shop on other side of city, some cafe, some place to meet with people. And probably 20% will be trail rides, when i will have a enough time and power to go some special place with a group of people or alone and spend a time by riding there and learn on getting better in that

Probably with time and learn into i ll do trails more often, but for current time i want to have a bike i can use for multiple purposes and don't feel i can't take a bike for smth and spent so much money and just go by legs/bus/taxi and my bike just staying at home and waiitng this 1 time per week i taking him for special ride he good for

Please, for what i described recommend me to make final decesion, should i go with Turbo Levo and will be able to do all of that fine, of better to look on Tero/Vado/Creo for that purposes

Slayer, it's good that you tried the reality on the trails before spending big money. When I bought my Giant Trance E+ Pro, I soon realized the Full Suspension e-MTB was a waste on me. I simply cannot ride difficult trails, and am scared to death if I am to do a rapid steep descent on a stoney trail!

For your needs, which are a mix of Adventure, some mild trails, and urban ride, the Tero 5.0 EQ will be an ideal choice, as the e-bike is a real all-rounder. The gearing on Tero is still at the MTB side but it is high enough to ride roads at a decent speed. Moreover, you'd appreciate the possibility of taking a pannier with you on long adventure rides. Also, having a kickstand is a very good thing...

I have a hard time to explain the 32 or 45 km/h is wrong. I asked earlier: 'Where are the Specialized e-bikes imported from?' If they are imported from any European distributorship or Turkey, these will be limited at 25 km/h. Only e-bikes imported from the U.S. can be Class 1 (20 mph) or Class 3 (28 mph). Now, I am sure Georgian hackers can do anything they want; speed derestrictors exist too. However, air drag on a flat handlebar e-bike practically limits the speed to some 34 km/h on a fully derestricted e-bike. On the other hand, it is very easy to hit 50-70 km/h on mountain road descents without any motor You do not need to derestrict the e-bike. Just ride it and check out that what I told you is true: slow climbs, fast descents.

If you do everything to ride very fast with the motor assistance, your battery will degrade sooner than you think, and the range will be funny (40 km?)

Good luck!

 

[Slayer2ez]

Slayer, it's good that you tried the reality on the trails before spending big money. When I bought my Giant Trance E+ Pro, I soon realized the Full Suspension e-MTB was a waste on me. I simply cannot ride difficult trails, and am scared to death if I am to do a rapid steep descent on a stoney trail!

For your needs, which are a mix of Adventure, some mild trails, and urban ride, the Tero 5.0 EQ will be an ideal choice, as the e-bike is a real all-rounder. The gearing on Tero is still at the MTB side but it is high enough to ride roads at a decent speed. Moreover, you'd appreciate the possibility of taking a pannier with you on long adventure rides. Also, having a kickstand is a very good thing...

I have a hard time to explain the 32 or 45 km/h is wrong. I asked earlier: 'Where are the Specialized e-bikes imported from?' If they are imported from any European distributorship or Turkey, these will be limited at 25 km/h. Only e-bikes imported from the U.S. can be Class 1 (20 mph) or Class 3 (28 mph). Now, I am sure Georgian hackers can do anything they want; speed derestrictors exist too. However, air drag on a flat handlebar e-bike practically limits the speed to some 34 km/h on a fully derestricted e-bike. On the other hand, it is very easy to hit 50-70 km/h on mountain road descents without any motor You do not need to derestrict the e-bike. Just ride it and check out that what I told you is true: slow climbs, fast descents.

If you do everything to ride very fast with the motor assistance, your battery will degrade sooner than you think, and the range will be funny (40 km?)

Good luck!

Thank you for reply Stefan, i think they just deliver from USA or do USA progamming, because Tero oficially has 45 km/h in USA which is 28 miles per hour and it's no break warranty
On any bike like you said of course possible to use chip which unlock limits but it break warranty 100% i think, so i will no do it. Anyway for too high speeds better to bike moto bike or at least dirt bike if that need, but i m here doing some chill adventures and some different rides i no need unlock more than they offer i think
Just little pros of Tero that he's really offer more than levo in terms of speed you can go on road and will easily keep that speeds on road/some tarrain. But on other hand of course Levo will be so much better in situation where it's so hard to go through and will cover all shapes by rear shock
It hard to decide because with Tero i will no be able to do trails and downhills if i will want to do it at least sometimes or in future, the easiest green ones yes but any more intensive ones probably no or not comfort. But i don';t think that smth i bike for.
On other hand on Tero i will have smth like a bike who can do many things in one, i ll be able to carry smth with me easy, ride a road on decent speed for an adventure to somewhere within 50 km from start point and come back easy, do some kinds of forest/mountain rides as well on Tero. It looks like all of that possible on it. but it about price it so close to Levo, it cost 1000$ less than Levo. And i think if i will not like it after purchase and tests or will want to do more extreme later it will be so much harder to sell it since its niche and price will be much lower than i buy
And when Levo is big favorite bike by many drivers between real professionals and just begginers who want to get cool bike and looks cool
I don't think Levo is lose lose in any case, and probably i will be able to do all that things i described on Levo too, and 32 km/hour is decent speed and probably safier. I m not doing race i just ride for joy

What is we speak about rides in city, if we imagine going from point A to point C, with few locations between. On a way from point A to C will be different kind of terrain, asphault/stairs/some kinds of bad sidewalks and driveways up uneven paving stones and of course some out road and maybe some forrest path, but not like 100% of mountain terrain ride. Is that kind of rides will be fine for Levo?
I m also worry to be always on or near roads on Tero 5.0, when on Levo i can go any type of terrain and feel ok. Probably when my common roads to go will expire here i will want to go more unexpected ways with different terrain, just smth like i want to go there and don't worry about what road it will be. Or tero still looks totally fine for most of terrains i can meet in just common riding as an adventure? I think a situation when i need exactly Levo is for very difficult terrain such as large bumps, holes, rocks bouncing off wheels and jumps and of course going extreme trails and that will be just a little part of what i will want to get from bike
Thank you for reply Stefan, i think they just deliver from USA or do USA progamming, because Tero oficially has 45 km/h in USA which is 28 miles per hour and it's no break warranty
On any bike like you said of course possible to use chip which unlock limits but it break warranty 100% i think, so i will no do it. Anyway for too high speeds better to bike moto bike or at least dirt bike if that need, but i m here doing some chill adventures and some different rides i no need unlock more than they offer i think
Just little pros of Tero that he's really offer more than levo in terms of speed you can go on road and will easily keep that speeds on road/some tarrain. But on other hand of course Levo will be so much better in situation where it's so hard to go through and will cover all shapes by rear shock
It hard to decide because with Tero i will no be able to do trails and downhills if i will want to do it at least sometimes or in future, the easiest green ones yes but any more intensive ones probably no or not comfort. But i don';t think that smth i bike for.
On other hand on Tero i will have smth like a bike who can do many things in one, i ll be able to carry smth with me easy, ride a road on decent speed for an adventure to somewhere within 50 km from start point and come back easy, do some kinds of forest/mountain rides as well on Tero. It looks like all of that possible on it. but it about price it so close to Levo, it cost 1000$ less than Levo. And i think if i will not like it after purchase and tests or will want to do more extreme later it will be so much harder to sell it since its niche and price will be much lower than i buy
And when Levo is big favorite bike by many drivers between real professionals and just begginers who want to get cool bike and looks cool
I don't think Levo is lose lose in any case, and probably i will be able to do all that things i described on Levo too, and 32 km/hour is decent speed and probably safier. I m not doing race i just ride for joy

What is we speak about rides in city, if we imagine going from point A to point C, with few locations between. On a way from point A to C will be different kind of terrain, asphault/stairs/some kinds of bad sidewalks and driveways up uneven paving stones and of course some out road and maybe some forrest path, but not like 100% of mountain terrain ride. Is that kind of rides will be fine for Levo?
I m also worry to be always on or near roads on Tero 5.0, when on Levo i can go any type of terrain and feel ok. Probably when my common roads to go will expire here i will want to go more unexpected ways with different terrain, just smth like i want to go there and don't worry about what road it will be. Or tero still looks totally fine for most of terrains i can meet in just common riding as an adventure? I think a situation when i need exactly Levo is for very difficult terrain such as large bumps, holes, rocks bouncing off wheels and jumps and of course going extreme trails and that will be just a little part of what i will want to get from bike
So to summary all said above, am i will be able to do all of that on Levo and also have an option to do hard rides and trails in any terrain and Levo is my pick
Or Levo will be not good in most of commong adventure ride situations and better to Pick Tero and start with some chill trails and priotirize commong rides and adventures?
For example if i will take a bike on car to just ride some kind of mountain roads, without extreme and jumps, Tero will be pretty good without doubts and no need Levo for it?
So to summary all said above, am i will be able to do all of that on Levo and also have an option to do hard rides and trails in any terrain and Levo is my pick
Or Levo will be not good in most of commong adventure ride situations and better to Pick Tero and start with some chill trails and priotirize commong rides and adventures?

And i m again sorry for bother you guys with all that share the thoughts that are in my head, i wish i have more understanding and experience and decide easily, but EMTB and Specialized brand and models is smth i researched very recentely for me. I 100% need a bike and after ride Electric bike few times in hills area where i live atm i don't want to get normal mtb when i can make much more joy from electric bike rides

 

[Stefan Mikes]

i think they just deliver from USA or do USA progamming, because Tero oficially has 45 km/h in USA which is 28 miles per hour and it's no break warranty

If this is so, you will tell me after you have gotten the e-bike. I'm interested to learn!

But on other hand of course Levo will be so much better in situation where it's so hard to go through and will cover all shapes by rear shock

Well, you cannot have them all. I currently ride with a XC group: none of the riders have the rear shock, and they do OK on easier MTB trails. Bear in mind: Levo is for technical singletracks only. You would hate it on the pavement! Besides, Tero has a dropper post, which is invaluable during steep descents!

On a way from point A to C will be different kind of terrain, asphault/stairs/some kinds of bad sidewalks and driveways up uneven paving stones and of course some out road and maybe some forrest path, but not like 100% of mountain terrain ride. Is that kind of rides will be fine for Levo?

Your experience will be:
Levo talking to you: 'Please please please take me off-road!'

I think a situation when i need exactly Levo is for very difficult terrain such as large bumps, holes, rocks bouncing off wheels and jumps

As I said, you cannot have them all. It is not a coincidence MTBers bring their bikes to the trail beginning by car.

Tero, as an XC (Cross Country) e-bike and possibility of riding it on-road is the best pick. I regret you cannot demo ride both Levo and Tero!

 

[Allan47.7339]

Interesting grammar by the OP. Bot?

 

[Prairie Dog]

Interesting grammar by the OP. Bot?

I was thinking the same. Lots of repetition in the responses and strange word choices.

 

[Slayer2ez]

I was thinking the same. Lots of repetition in the responses and strange word choices.

No i mdefinbetely not a bot, just my english not good, but i m working on it
I not sure is that funny or sad for me to hear that, i think sad

it's really just hard to decide a bike for me and i'm trying to make a good choice to be happy with buy. Also i m not very wealthy and such bike is big purchase for me

 

[Slayer2ez]

If this is so, you will tell me after you have gotten the e-bike. I'm interested to learn!

Well, you cannot have them all. I currently ride with a XC group: none of the riders have the rear shock, and they do OK on easier MTB trails. Bear in mind: Levo is for technical singletracks only. You would hate it on the pavement! Besides, Tero has a dropper post, which is invaluable during steep descents!


Your experience will be:
Levo talking to you: 'Please please please take me off-road!'


As I said, you cannot have them all. It is not a coincidence MTBers bring their bikes to the trail beginning by car.

Tero, as an XC (Cross Country) e-bike and possibility of riding it on-road is the best pick. I regret you cannot demo ride both Levo and Tero!

Thank you! i definetly will info what one i have chosen and my result with it. I will need it for month or few until delivery but it will be winter months so i m ok to wait and no rush.
About test drive, I did, it was ~60 km on Tero but Tero 3.0 not 5.0, and i pretty like it. But i was feel like i need some more motor power on high angle hills, overall it was pretty comfort. That why i thought Levo SL would be good choice because i thought Levo SL have more power than tero 3.0.. and that Levo SL will be lighter and more power and it could be best combination after Tero 3.0 try. i was dumb in that
And i feel like i need more battery size, on tero 3.0 i was driving just mainly roads on asphault and little groun terrain
I tried Levo yesterday from a guy, but did only some little park ride, it was so smooth and better than Tero 3.0, but i didn't take any longer ride on levo. And i much appreciate for the opportunity to try that!

My problem to finally choose is lack of experience with trails and emtb/mtb and just collecting information i read to summary all
I don't know why, but many MTB group people told me that i will be fine with Levo everywhere, they say: i can go roads when i need, i can go home -> to trails on levo and will be fine. Of course they not mean that i will be good like gravel bikes on road but Levo can be fine everywhere they said. And i heard same from few Levo owners.
And only you Stefan and few people here and in Reddit telling me that Levo will be horrible if i will be riding more casual and take it on roads often. That is why at the current moment opinions differ and I am confused.
I m trying to get smth universal, to use it for most of things i need or i wish in future
Also i m a bit worry that if i will no like Tero or will want to switch to smth like Levo after year of ride it will be way harder than try Levo and extra value for resell later and worth the money spend will be much easier for Levo model


So, to summarry all: I like both Tero and Levo from what i tried and heard, which of them will fullfil my needs more i don't know, but it looks like i will be happy with both bikes, just my ride activities and life can change depends on choice i ll do. Probably with levo i will anyway start trying my best in improvement of my bicycle skills and cooperate with guys to ride trails together or make some bike tours. On Tero i think i will be more calm about trails and do longer rides and more casual things and probably my wife will take one of bikes too and will be my company sometimes. But after she see some videos of trails ride she strigtly said she will not gonna ride like that
I think Tero x was best middle to have an option to do all in one and have ultimate machine. It not best on track and not best on road but can be good in both. Tero 5.0 also looks not bad and it way cheaper X version and a bit cheaper Levo
i think i should bet on Tero and will try to get it i think. Maybe to wait tero x but there no any news when it will be on sale again. I will re ask retailer what we can at current moment

If you guys have any extra thoughts to share or think that I should choose Levo or something else, let me know about it. i Appreciate all replies and your time in this thread. Sorry for being so complicated, i always have problems with choice in my life and if i decide too quickly i can impulsive buy smth without doubts and then regret