These work great and allow a top of the top tube installation. The mounting strap is long enough to go around the double battery top tube. That said, I'm very tall and had no clearance issues but when standing over the bike the water bottle was dangerously close to my schnutz. If your shorter (I'm 6'5") that position could be problematic. There really aren't many good options for a while riding water bottle placement on the Bikonit frame.