Washington State to allow bikes to "yield" at stop signs

Yeah, I understand the Law of conservation of momentum... an ebike lets you thumb your nose at that particular law. When I am trying to get the maximum range with my bike I tend to pedal the bike up to 6 or 8 mph and then start using the assist and use the Giant Green button to conserve even more power during the ride.
Well you can never defeat the laws of nature. Giant green button?
 
Well you can never defeat the laws of nature. Giant green button?
Well.... we're kinda defeating some of them with an electric motor, aren't we?
The Giant Green Button is a cut off switch for BaFang BBSXX series mid-drives. It allows you to pedal at any time with no assist. It works incredibly well for being able to keep the momentum up and extending range. I installed mine upside down and on the left side so I can depress it with my left index finger at any time while holding the bars. Some people use the brake lever power cut-outs to do the same thing but I don't use them since I have a Rohloff Speed-hub. Not something riders who don't care about extending their range need to bother with.
 
Well.... we're kinda defeating some of them with an electric motor, aren't we?
The Giant Green Button is a cut off switch for BaFang BBSXX series mid-drives. It allows you to pedal at any time with no assist. It works incredibly well for being able to keep the momentum up and extending range. I installed mine upside down and on the left side so I can depress it with my left index finger at any time while holding the bars. Some people use the brake lever power cut-outs to do the same thing but I don't use them since I have a Rohloff Speed-hub. Not something riders who don't care about extending their range need to bother with.
I see. I have a geared hub motor so all I do is turn off the assist or shut off the battery or display.
Technically, the electric motor is replacing the source of the work not defeating the law.
 
I see. I have a geared hub motor so all I do is turn off the assist or shut off the battery or display.
Technically, the electric motor is replacing the source of the work not defeating the law.
Tell that to my thighs, they don't care about technicalities. I'm sure most people can turn-off the motor or set it to 0 assist while riding, or fumble with the display control, then fumble with it again to turn it back on. The GG button lets me do it easily, quickly and when I let go of it I'm back on assist instantly. Most people don't try to conserve power while riding an ebike, much the same as they don't try to conserve fossil fuels. They charge to 100% and ride around yelling, "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee", for a while and go home and recharge. So do I sometimes. It's fun to show people what an ebike can really do sometimes. Mostly I just use it to extend my range and the GG button helps me to that very well.
 
If I am in wide open line of sight and it looks good I have always slowed and rolled stop signs, including in Bellingham well before this law was placed.

However years ago in Astoria, OR I was scooting through town to my bank with my eBob trailer. I was stopping at all stop signs on the cross street I was on quite frankly because I got such a charge out of being able to launch so easily rather than struggle to get going.....At one of my last top signs at the foot of a steep street that had no stop signs for blocks I stopped, by the Goonies museum for those familiar with the area, I full stopped via a track stand saw a car coming down a block and a half away and and scooted across without a second thought.

When I got to the bank and was locking up my bike an older gentleman walking by me towards the entrance ramp I was tying to said "I sure wish that cars were able to run stop signs like that". I didn't respond but it has always stuck with me and I chalk up to the fact that as he didn't see my foot go down he assumed I had run the sign as he never came close to me.

As a car driver I sometimes get a little antsy when someone does a dangerous "roll" within my line of sight and as a cyclist I just have decided, rules or no rules, that cars are king and don't want to tussle with them or their operators.
 
I was scooting through town to my bank with my eBob trailer...
I have to have a totally different mindset when pulling a trailer, full or empty, and not just when trying to decelerate. It has bitten me in the ass a few times because I forget it's there. In this video (
) @ 5:37 ( https://prnt.sc/uqswu4 ) I catch a tent pole on my trailer on the gate post because I had forgotten the trailer was there. It stopped me dead for a second... I played it off because I knew the camera was running but had to stop and make a few adjustments after.
 
If I am in wide open line of sight and it looks good I have always slowed and rolled stop signs, including in Bellingham well before this law was placed.

However years ago in Astoria, OR I was scooting through town to my bank with my eBob trailer. I was stopping at all stop signs on the cross street I was on quite frankly because I got such a charge out of being able to launch so easily rather than struggle to get going.....At one of my last top signs at the foot of a steep street that had no stop signs for blocks I stopped, by the Goonies museum for those familiar with the area, I full stopped via a track stand saw a car coming down a block and a half away and and scooted across without a second thought.

When I got to the bank and was locking up my bike an older gentleman walking by me towards the entrance ramp I was tying to said "I sure wish that cars were able to run stop signs like that". I didn't respond but it has always stuck with me and I chalk up to the fact that as he didn't see my foot go down he assumed I had run the sign as he never came close to me.

As a car driver I sometimes get a little antsy when someone does a dangerous "roll" within my line of sight and as a cyclist I just have decided, rules or no rules, that cars are king and don't want to tussle with them or their operators.
THAT, is a a good point, at intersections I always let left turning cars go first the risk is otherwise too high for the cyclist.
 
Mr. Ghost,

Did you get the point that my BOB had an e wheel on it and I was going in a straight line? Sure you have to be careful when towing a trailer and I was always aware of it and never had issues as you describe.
 
The law does say you have to slow down enough to be able to stop, which, admittedly I do anyways. I can imagine soon someone is going to flat out run the stop without looking or slowing, thinking the change, "no Stop Sign need to be observed"
 
Tell that to my thighs, they don't care about technicalities. I'm sure most people can turn-off the motor or set it to 0 assist while riding, or fumble with the display control, then fumble with it again to turn it back on. The GG button lets me do it easily, quickly and when I let go of it I'm back on assist instantly. Most people don't try to conserve power while riding an ebike, much the same as they don't try to conserve fossil fuels. They charge to 100% and ride around yelling, "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee", for a while and go home and recharge. So do I sometimes. It's fun to show people what an ebike can really do sometimes. Mostly I just use it to extend my range and the GG button helps me to that very well.
I can't speak for most ppl, but I just set my assist to it's lowest setting in the parameters then at PAS 1 there is barely any noticeable assist and I have my display positioned next to my finger and can bump up the PAS without looking (no fumbling whatsoever).
 
The law does say you have to slow down enough to be able to stop, which, admittedly I do anyways. I can imagine soon someone is going to flat out run the stop without looking or slowing, thinking the change, "no Stop Sign need to be observed"
That person who runs the sign without looking is subject to the law of natural selection : )
 
I can't speak for most ppl, but I just set my assist to it's lowest setting in the parameters then at PAS 1 there is barely any noticeable assist and I have my display positioned next to my finger and can bump up the PAS without looking (no fumbling whatsoever).
I vary between power levels 1 and 3 (of 9) and 1 and 14th gears pretty much continuously unless I am on a hard flat surface for a long stretch. Hanging weight on the bike for touring changes everything, it's like having to learn a whole new bike for every 30 or 40 lbs. you add. And then relearning everything when you add a trailer. It also becomes far more important to conserve power whenever possible. I cut the assist a lot, anytime I am descending, anytime I can maintain the momentum easily, whenever I reach a speed I want to maintain, and all the times I don't want any assist like in areas with lots of pedestrians. The GG Button is designed for that kind of use, continual interrupts, and I don't have to move a hand to use it... you know, fumble around.
 
I vary between power levels 1 and 3 (of 9) and 1 and 14th gears pretty much continuously unless I am on a hard flat surface for a long stretch. Hanging weight on the bike for touring changes everything, it's like having to learn a whole new bike for every 30 or 40 lbs. you add. And then relearning everything when you add a trailer. It also becomes far more important to conserve power whenever possible. I cut the assist a lot, anytime I am descending, anytime I can maintain the momentum easily, whenever I reach a speed I want to maintain, and all the times I don't want any assist like in areas with lots of pedestrians. The GG Button is designed for that kind of use, continual interrupts, and I don't have to move a hand to use it... you know, fumble around.
Why hang weight on your bike???
I have found now that I am in better rideing shape and have my bike tunes to near perfection : ) I rarley go above assist level 2 out of 5.Most of the time I'm in PAS 1 and just tooling around like the bike was a light weight racer.
 
😳😵ok, how much does that all weight! Really need a speaker that big?
The FuGoo XL is the 1st thing I mount and would be the last thing to go.

Panniers:
Garage, 13.7 lbs. (Left front) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/wtBkagW4fbfQxnJn7
Primary Sleep System, 12 lbs. (Right front) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/s4ZwacKEVL7obUGv6 I just added an HG Dyneema Fiber Palace Tarp, 12" ridgeline w/doors, and just12.5 oz.
Kitchen, 14.5 lbs. (Left rear)- https://photos.app.goo.gl/WnqJj7b6UxGNSvjg8
Bedroom/Bathroom, 11 lbs. (Right rear) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/Psj6sHpoiy7jq3JY7

Handlebar & bar-bag evolution: Double-ended bar-bag, 6 lbs., Handlebar bag, 13 lbs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/owx61e75m2nsSdjJ8

The trailer carries a spare 17 lbs. battery and a 17 lbs. solar panel when I take it. Then up to another 50 lbs. of miscellaneous gear, food-n-drink, and toys. To answer your question from 75 lbs. to multi-hundreds if I want to ride large. This is what I like about the speaker. -
 
The FuGoo XL is the 1st thing I mount and would be the last thing to go.

Panniers:
Garage, 13.7 lbs. (Left front) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/wtBkagW4fbfQxnJn7
Primary Sleep System, 12 lbs. (Right front) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/s4ZwacKEVL7obUGv6 I just added an HG Dyneema Fiber Palace Tarp, 12" ridgeline w/doors, and just12.5 oz.
Kitchen, 14.5 lbs. (Left rear)- https://photos.app.goo.gl/WnqJj7b6UxGNSvjg8
Bedroom/Bathroom, 11 lbs. (Right rear) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/Psj6sHpoiy7jq3JY7

Handlebar & bar-bag evolution: Double-ended bar-bag, 6 lbs., Handlebar bag, 13 lbs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/owx61e75m2nsSdjJ8

The trailer carries a spare 17 lbs. battery and a 17 lbs. solar panel when I take it. Then up to another 50 lbs. of miscellaneous gear, food-n-drink, and toys. To answer your question from 75 lbs. to multi-hundreds if I want to ride large. This is what I like about the speaker. -
Guess ppl can hear you coming from blocks away. Why not ear buds? Save some weight.
I order a front bag for $4.79 Let's see how far down the rabbit hole I go.
Okay I know you have one in there somewhere but...where's the shower?
 
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The FuGoo XL is the 1st thing I mount and would be the last thing to go.

Panniers:
Garage, 13.7 lbs. (Left front) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/wtBkagW4fbfQxnJn7
Primary Sleep System, 12 lbs. (Right front) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/s4ZwacKEVL7obUGv6 I just added an HG Dyneema Fiber Palace Tarp, 12" ridgeline w/doors, and just12.5 oz.
Kitchen, 14.5 lbs. (Left rear)- https://photos.app.goo.gl/WnqJj7b6UxGNSvjg8
Bedroom/Bathroom, 11 lbs. (Right rear) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/Psj6sHpoiy7jq3JY7

Handlebar & bar-bag evolution: Double-ended bar-bag, 6 lbs., Handlebar bag, 13 lbs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/owx61e75m2nsSdjJ8

The trailer carries a spare 17 lbs. battery and a 17 lbs. solar panel when I take it. Then up to another 50 lbs. of miscellaneous gear, food-n-drink, and toys. To answer your question from 75 lbs. to multi-hundreds if I want to ride large. This is what I like about the speaker. -
Wow, 17 lb battery? That’s a lot of weight to haul around. If I wanted music when I rode I’d just get a set of wireless headphones. Lots lighter and less space but to each his own.👍
 
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