Turbo Vado 2 4.0 or 5.0 or 6.0?

[mcdenny]

More conflicting info

This is the ride data graph from the Spec app showing segment where I was in 10/100 then changed to 0/100. From this it apears that the motor was indeed off. This directly conflicts with the Spec chart showing rider power needed to get max motor power. WTF?

 

[mschwett]

More conflicting info

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This is the ride data graph from the Spec app showing segment where I was in 10/100 then changed to 0/100. From this it apears that the motor was indeed off. This directly conflicts with the Spec chart showing rider power needed to get max motor power. WTF?

it makes more sense that way.

you might need to try pedaling at 600+ watts just to make sure there isn’t some rounding going on. my recollection was similar to jeremy’s that at 5/10 ease settings the motor did not work very well.

 

[mcdenny]

Just finished a ride with 20 segments, about 1/2 mile long in 1-10 xx/xx and xx/100 tune settings. Now I get an error saying can't download file. Please try again later.

Also, turns out there is a 00/00 microtune setting as well as a 00/100. Setting the display to show rider power and motor power, there is 0 motor power regardless of rider power in both cases. Just what you would expect. BUT there is a clear motor whine with 00/100 but none at 00/00. clearly no whine with the regular "off" setting either. ????

My conclusion that the bike was really easy to PEDAL with the motor off, which I later retracted, I'm now asserting.

 

[mschwett]

please for the love of god .. it's PEDAL

 

[teskow]

please for the love of god .. it's PEDAL

Ouch. That smart.
Show me a man who has never made a mistake in his life and I will show you a man who has never done anything.

 

[mcdenny]

Sidebar about the Spec website: All the SL 2 4.0 and 5.0 models are back plus they added unequipped versions of the 4.0.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Sidebar about the Spec website: All the SL 2 4.0 and 5.0 models are back plus they added unequipped versions of the 4.0.

Good to hear that! Indeed, even the SL 2 like yours in the same colour is available in Poland!
I've looked at the picture of your e-bike. It looks the bidon cage fits between the top and bottom tubes so a Range Extender with its cable might fit as well!

 

[mcdenny]

Good to hear that! Indeed, even the SL 2 like yours in the same colour is available in Poland!
I've looked at the picture of your e-bike. It looks the bidon cage fits between the top and bottom tubes so a Range Extender with its cable might fit as well!

Yes, the ranger extender battery is an option. The display will show charge levels of both batteries and you can program which battery gets used first. I did a short range calculation as part of my Pm vs Pr experiments. 20/20 tune with an avg 10 mph showed 110 miles on 90% of a full battery. That’s based on only one 1.5 mile ride though so range may not really be that good.

My butt will need a range extender before the bike does.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

The display will show charge levels of both batteries and you can program which battery gets used first.

Precisely speaking, it is either both batteries in parallel or the Range Extender first
I was wondering as there is an extra pair of bosses for a vertically mounted cage, the seat tube, for the diamond frame. It looks it is only a single position for the RE on the ST frame. I only wonder if the RE cable would be long enough. (It is not long enough on my Vado SL 1).

 

[mcdenny]

Bosses on the top of the top tube also.

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

Bosses on the top of the top tube also.

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Anyone, are the side-loading Spec Zee cages secure enough for the RE? If so, might be a good way to carry the RE between the downtubes. Putting it on the top tube bosses would raise the bike's center of mass even more.

 

[Nubnub]

Anyone, are the side-loading Spec Zee cages secure enough for the RE? If so, might be a good way to carry the RE between the downtubes. Putting it on the top tube bosses would raise the bike's center of mass even more.

The range extenders come with the cage and rubber band to secure the RE. Seems to work well enough tho the band fails after a couple of seasons in relatively mild California weather. Hasn't been an issue for me without the rubber band. Security is prob less a concern unless used extreme off road conditions. Be sure to get the correct cable length - there should be sticker on or near the charge port cover stating what the correct length should be. If I remember correctly, my Levo SL downtube mounted cagg/RE used a shorter cable than the seat tube mounted RE on a Vado/Creo SL. I am guessing there is no cable long enough to have the RE mounted on the top tube of a step thru.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Anyone, are the side-loading Spec Zee cages secure enough for the RE? If so, might be a good way to carry the RE between the downtubes. Putting it on the top tube bosses would raise the bike's center of mass even more.

It is absolutely secure. I ride gravel and some offroad, never had any issue. The RE perfectly locks into the Specialized Zee II cage. (I use the rubber band to secure the battery plug not the whole thing but it's me). I could even ride multi-kilometre rough cobblestone segments on three races using multiple REs!

Bosses on the top of the top tube also.

It wasn't my point. Perhaps Vado SL 2 is different from version 1 but I've installed a Range Extender in the bidon cage on the bottom tube. The RE cable was too short to reach the frame socket.

Be sure to get the correct cable length - there should be sticker on or near the charge port cover stating what the correct length should be.

Vado SL and Creo both take the long 220 mm Road Cable. Levo SL takes a shorter 165 mm MTB Cable.

McDenny if you ever plan using an RE, please check the feasibility before any order or purchase.