Thoughts Of An Experienced E-Biker

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Well said. I say to each their own. Life is too short. Set em up the best way you can, get as comfy as you can, and go ride like hell! These bikes are first and foremost designed for fun. 2.5 years on a wonderful modified Ecotric and having 1000 watts of a great time!
What model please?
 
The statement “1000 watts is completely legal in the US.” is only partially true. Many states restrict the maximum output to 750 watts. While it is true that 1000 watt maximum output is legal in the US, in Washington State, (where Robspace 1 lives), 1000 watts is not legal, (750 maximum in Washington).

“The electric motor may not have a power output more than 750 watts.”



The wattage thing is like upsizing the biggie fries at McD. My first ebike had a 1000W motor. I never thought I needed that much wattage while riding, and it just added weight. Maybe if you live in SF.

My Priority Current has a 500W motor. It handles everything well.

Both my Gocycle and my ICE trike have 250W motors (both made in England). The trike pulls hills much better than the Gocycle, even though it weighs much more. The difference is the torque. This tells me that torque is more important than wattage.
 
i always choose a road over a shared path unless it's a really, really dangerous road. mixed use paths have dogs on them. 'nuff said
Speaking about danger.. Few days ago, was biking on local road, on side.. The car was 'passing me', and with his mirror hit my mirror, that angled my mirror 90 deg, and nothing else.. he was traveling probably around 30mph while I was probably around 9mph on my electric bike, up hill. Yes, the mid line was solid at this point, but from ahead of both of us there was no incoming traffic. He could have easily pass me with room between us, instead he elected to stay 'in line'.. crazy.. 3 more inches and I could have ended up at CICU, or CTICU... was he texting on the phone?? or what??? My bad during dusk, i forgot to turn on my beacon or strobe additional tale lamp, and had only my tail lamp on my Tesoro X... I'm happy to be alive... he did not even stop.. crazy...
 
Speaking about danger.. Few days ago, was biking on local road, on side.. The car was 'passing me', and with his mirror hit my mirror, that angled my mirror 90 deg, and nothing else.. he was traveling probably around 30mph while I was probably around 9mph on my electric bike, up hill. Yes, the mid line was solid at this point, but from ahead of both of us there was no incoming traffic. He could have easily pass me with room between us, instead he elected to stay 'in line'.. crazy.. 3 more inches and I could have ended up at CICU, or CTICU... was he texting on the phone?? or what??? My bad during dusk, i forgot to turn on my beacon or strobe additional tale lamp, and had only my tail lamp on my Tesoro X... I'm happy to be alive... he did not even stop.. crazy...
seriously, the distracted driver probably wouldn't have noticed you even then, remember there is such a thing as"giving a $#!+" and I am truly convinced a lot of vehicle steerers do not. Glad you werent harmed.
 
Speaking about danger.. Few days ago, was biking on local road, on side.. The car was 'passing me', and with his mirror hit my mirror, that angled my mirror 90 deg, and nothing else.. he was traveling probably around 30mph while I was probably around 9mph on my electric bike, up hill. Yes, the mid line was solid at this point, but from ahead of both of us there was no incoming traffic. He could have easily pass me with room between us, instead he elected to stay 'in line'.. crazy.. 3 more inches and I could have ended up at CICU, or CTICU... was he texting on the phone?? or what??? My bad during dusk, i forgot to turn on my beacon or strobe additional tale lamp, and had only my tail lamp on my Tesoro X... I'm happy to be alive... he did not even stop.. crazy...

glad to hear you’re ok! not sure what jurisdiction you’re in, but it’s illegal here to pass a cyclist with less than three feet clear.

i strongly recommend the garmin varia for anyone who rides on the road a lot. in a situation like this it would go from a solid light to a flashing light as the driver approached, hopefully getting their attention.
 
I've added a rear, flashing red light to my ebikes and etrike. It also is a horn and motion alarm. Found it on Amazon. I think that the flashing gets more notice than a solid red, assuming that the driver is watching the road at all.
 
I’ve only made it to page 7 here, and I don’t want to make a hasty judgement, but can we get “mature” (as in adult, sensible…) back in the title of this thread?

And veering dangerously back on topic, what are the prefered methods of addressing numbness in hands on longer rides? I’ve changed to wider, more supportive grips (helped some), started wearing gloves with some palm padding, and until now (well an hour ago when I started reading this wandering thread), I was thinking about raising the handle bar height 1-2” and maybe changing the bars to bring the grips back a bit.

I’ve considered innerbar ends, but not sure how they would fit with everything else on the bars. Anyone got pics of them on a Specialized bike? Other thoughts from those who have addressed this issue?
Thanks,
Rich
 

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I’ve changed to wider, more supportive grips (helped some), started wearing gloves with some palm padding, and until now (well an hour ago when I started reading this wandering thread), I was thinking about raising the handle bar height 1-2” and maybe changing the bars to bring the grips back a bit.
Are your wrists in a neutral position?
 
Are your wrists in a neutral position?
I’m a complete rookie so I really don’t know. Is there a diagram somewhere on proper position? My wrists are bent slightly with my hands bent back (up) a bit, and I’m putting a lot of pressure on my hands (palms mainly) I believe because my bars are too low, but lets not get into all that.

Its a new Spec Tero BTW. I’ve been mostly desert riding which involves some easy dirt/gravel cruising, mostly bad roads, and torn up 4x4 tracks (with very deep, narrow wheel ruts/bike traps), with a lot of big rocks to dodge, sometimes constantly, and a lot of washes to cross, which are fun, but usually involve some sudden drops before an immediate climb out the other side. I could just cruise around on easy roads for less than 10 miles and experience no ill efffects but I’m easily bored and the trails call. So my hands are usually numb around mile seven or so.

I found this pic of the same bike with innerbar ends on a Johnson H bar but I also have a mirror on the left side which I really like. So adding the innerbar ends would really start to clutter the cockpit (still getting used to calling it that but we must have our nomenclature). But many times while riding I find myself thinking they would be helpful.
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This is mine - not as sexy but not as cluttered either. On the bike above there is no control for a dropper because he changed it out to a Redshift suspension post, but the control shared the same mount as the brake lever so that didn’t free any space. I tried all three possibilities for the mirror and the one pictured works best for me. But I’m open to suggestions.
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Getting your hands so they are in line with your forearm will probably help. The hand bent back is not a good thing. I can't take a picture of my grips because my bike is stored for the winter, but there are grips that will give you a much flatter contact surface and you can turn the grip to better align your hand with your forearm.

Added: if you ride with a death grip, that won't help either.
 
And veering dangerously back on topic, what are the prefered methods of addressing numbness in hands on longer rides? I’ve changed to wider, more supportive grips (helped some), started wearing gloves with some palm padding, and until now (well an hour ago when I started reading this wandering thread), I was thinking about raising the handle bar height 1-2” and maybe changing the bars to bring the grips back a bit.

hand numbness is probably the number one complaint on long rides, and the solution varies quite a bit depending on the rider and bike. for many, moving the seat back, tipping it up a tiny bit, and building core strength help. the key is to get the weight off the hands - it should be on your legs, and thus the pedals. some instinctively want to move the bars/grips up to solve the issue, but paradoxically that may make you lean on the bars even more.
 
hand numbness is probably the number one complaint on long rides, and the solution varies quite a bit depending on the rider and bike. for many, moving the seat back, tipping it up a tiny bit, and building core strength help. the key is to get the weight off the hands - it should be on your legs, and thus the pedals. some instinctively want to move the bars/grips up to solve the issue, but paradoxically that may make you lean on the bars even more.
 
The Jones bar is the solution for me. I raised the bars and have them swept back to me. My seat is the right height so I sit and ride like on a motorcycle. Along with a Cloud 9 seat, Schwalbe balloon Big Ben tires, suspension seat post, and front suspension forks, this bike rides very smooth. I do 25-30 miles every other day in the summer no problem. I'm 73.
 

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