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Sailing is very Green!

Just thinking out loud here, but wouldn't it be a lot simpler and cheaper for Bezos to remove the masts from his yacht when it passes under that bridge?

I understand that the yacht is probably over 400 feet long, and it wouldn't be easy, but... isn't that often part of sailboat maintenance?

Seneca taught me how not to be risk adverse. Embrace mistakes, letting them be your teachers and writing them off. When he would send off one of his ships to India to trade for pepper he would write it off as a total loss when it launched. If it retuned then that would be a windfall. That was the nature of his stoicism and very different that how we use the term when we call someone stoic. His pupil Nero was a pathological narcissist. As Emperor he would travel to stadiums and have solders fill them under pain of death. Then he would sing, but he couldn't sing. It was like a tone deaf Tiny Tim for hours. And the people were made to cheer and give him ovations but those who didn't were killed. Nero's mom was adept a murder. Sane Seneca tried to be a moderating influence to the royal insanity. Like an advisor to Trump, that ended badly.
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I met Tiny Tim once. I actually have a picture of myself with him at the Tunnel in New York circa about 1987 or '88. He was a really nice guy, and I'd like to say that he seemed completely normal, but... actually, his real-life personality seemed extremely similar to his stage act. He was not pretentious or full of himself at all.

He was not well-- very sweaty, and had the second-creepiest handshake of anyone I've ever met, even though his demeanor in person was not creepy-- just odd, and not in a way that was particularly disturbing.

The creepiest handshake award goes to Richard Nixon-- not even in the same league as Tiny Tim, another order of magnitude creepier. Shaking Nixon's hand was like squeezing a dead flounder.
 
I lived in Nixon's home town and went to his church in Whittier, CA. Then I moved to San Clemente. Who has leather bottom shoes on the beach? He as a Republican started the EPA. Creepy dude. And criminal.
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Just thinking out loud here, but wouldn't it be a lot simpler and cheaper for Bezos to remove the masts from his yacht when it passes under that bridge?

I understand that the yacht is probably over 400 feet long, and it wouldn't be easy, but... isn't that often part of sailboat maintenance?


I met Tiny Tim once. I actually have a picture of myself with him at the Tunnel in New York circa about 1987 or '88. He was a really nice guy, and I'd like to say that he seemed completely normal, but... actually, his real-life personality seemed extremely similar to his stage act. He was not pretentious or full of himself at all.

He was not well-- very sweaty, and had the second-creepiest handshake of anyone I've ever met, even though his demeanor in person was not creepy-- just odd, and not in a way that was particularly disturbing.

The creepiest handshake award goes to Richard Nixon-- not even in the same league as Tiny Tim, another order of magnitude creepier. Shaking Nixon's hand was like squeezing a dead flounder.
remove the masts from his yacht when it passes under that bridge?
Or just not put the masts on until they reach open water. It certainly has engines . However, the really rich aren't often really very smart about things outside their own expertise.
 
Dark meat is exported. That is falling slightly but still over 15% of US chicken meat is exported to places such as Mexico and the Near East. All of that exported meat is dark. Americans want white meat. Boneless chicken breasts have doubled in size and are half the price of what they were in the 1980's when they were a luxury item. Now broiler chickens mature in less than half the time, 6 weeks, and require half the feed. As noted before, at seven weeks their bones break under their own weight. These chickens could never survive outdoors scratching and eating bugs in a garden.
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I listened to this conversion with author Johann Hari the other day:


It's a longer listen but was one of the most fascinating conversations I've heard in a long time. The author interviewed 200 experts on attention and tracked the factors that shorten and hack it, from a heavily processed diet to media platforms that stoke our outrage in the hope of capturing our eyeballs or ears longer.

It's fascinating stuff, and profoundly wide reaching. The author used the unified ozone layer action in the 80s as an example. He just couldn't see that consensus happening today with the state of attention being the way it is. His explanation was far more nuanced and eloquent than mine. It brought to mind this cartoon:
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Anyway, go listen if you have time - troubling and wide reaching forces to be aware of.
 
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Tried to give a reprieve in using another thread but I guess Some couldnt handle it so I am back .

Sit down, Hang on and keep your hands and feet in the vehicle at all times ... We Are GOing GREen!!
 
Dirtboats make sailing a very fast and exciting sail.

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Those things are crazy. Triple digit speeds possible in 40 MPH wind?! My dad was fascinated by this sport, but in the '60s, it was considered very dangerous.
remove the masts from his yacht when it passes under that bridge?
Or just not put the masts on until they reach open water. It certainly has engines . However, the really rich aren't often really very smart about things outside their own expertise.
Usually the case these days, but IMHO old money is usually smarter, and more likely to be involved in philanthropy. I admit, that's my own bias that comes with being a middle class native New Yorker of a certain age, but it always seemed like there was some truth to it.

Bill Wilson, the founder of AA, went to the Rockefellers in 1937 seeking financial support.

The results of this meeting are shrouded in legend and rumor, but apparently, the advice they got was something like, "Oh, my God, don't do this with private equity or as a non-profit. It's a total nightmare, you'll get bogged down in special interests and bureaucracy, we've tried it before on projects like this, and it always ends in disaster. You don't really have a lot of expenses, just pass the hat and do it as a volunteer organization. You guys will do great."

They left the meeting deeply disappointed (or furious, depending on who you believe) but Bill later said it was the best advice he's ever gotten, and it may be one of the reasons the organization is still as strong as it is today.
 
I can get both American chicken (at a U.S. base commissary) and Japanese chicken ( any market). Even Thai chicken. U.S. chicken is by far the least tasty and most fatty. Plus it’s expensive as hell. And why is it yellow?! The rest of the world has tasty birds with pink skin and lovely flesh. Also American chicken isn’t even bled properly.
 
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Triple digit speeds possible in 40 MPH wind?!
Two USA citizens built a dirtboat called Iron Duck.
The Brits beat the record but with massive funding, unlike the two Americans that did it on their own.
116.7 mph I watched it!


“It almost ended before it started, with the crash of their first-speed yacht record attempt, the disaster that broke the short-lived Wood Duck. The Iron Duck tells a story of how Bob Dill and Bob Schumacher went on to build and sail the fastest wind-powered vehicle in the world.

“In 1999, they shattered the 100 mph mark and secured a place in the record books that held for ten years to the day.

“The wind-powered world speed record was an obsession of Dill’s who thought he could break it with the initiative engineering ideas he had to build the Iron Duck. Bob Dill’s infatuation with the speed record drew him to drag his best friend Schumacher along across the country every year for a decade. They persevered through unpredictable playa conditions, design iterations, and entirely self-funding an ambitious record attempt. The campaign was a success with Bob Schumacher, who set a new and seemingly unbeatable speed record at 116.7 mph. However, both friends have always wanted for the trophy to be in Bob Dill’s name."


“Today, we follow Bob Dill as he brings the legendary boat out of retirement to sail it one last time (his 70th birthday) before scrapping it and saying goodbye to the 30-year project. As in the speed trials, the wind doesn’t readily cooperate, and Dill has to decide if he is ultimately ready to let go of the dream of the Iron Duck.”

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