Specialized Turbo Vado/Como/Tero/Tero X User Club

[Marcela]

Was just doing a little chain maintenance, didn't know about the narrow/wide chainring thing. Learn something all the time. If you get it one cog off it don't work! What will they think of next.

 

[Sierratim]

@Sierratim do you recommend to use tri-flow then for derailleur?

Yes. I always use Tri-flow on the derailleur pivot points and rollers. I use the drip bottle with the flexible clear dropper tube, not the aerosol. Keeps the lube contained on the spots I intend to lube, not everything surrounding it. Be sure to wipe off any excess to keep grit away. https://www.triflowlubricants.com/product/tri-flow-superior-lubricant-drip-bottle/

BTW - Speaking of weight, I carry a few single use packets of Tri-flow in my kit when we do multi-day trips. Handy for getting shifting back into spec after going through dirt, sand and rain. I'm not seeing these online now. Tri-flow does offer a 'pin point' lube in a 0.25oz tube. When I run out of packets, I'll switch to these.

 

[Nxkharra]

Got this as recommended. Hope I never have to use it but it’s in the bag now. The bag is getting heavier and heavier! Thank God it is an ebike.
thanks for recommendation.

Thanks again for all your help and guidance.

 

[Sierratim]

Got this as recommended. Hope I never have to use it but it’s in the bag now. The bag is getting heavier and heavier! Thank God it is an ebike.
thanks for recommendation.

Luckily this compact spoke repair kit only weighs 0.6oz with the spare spoke nipple, spoke wrench, instructions, and a small plastic bag. Mine measures 0.75x2.5 inches in its plastic vial wrapped in the instructions all in the bag. Seems like worthwhile insurance against walking home.

 

[Sierratim]

Was just doing a little chain maintenance, didn't know about the narrow/wide chainring thing. Learn something all the time. If you get it one cog off it don't work! What will they think of next.

They're intended to minimize 'chain drop', i.e. when the chain jumps off the front chain ring(s). Seems to work, haven't had an issue with either Vado, but my wife dropped her chain on her Cannondale Quick mechanical on our ride last Friday. Only takes a minute or two for her to fix, then a quick wipe down with a Grease Monkey wipe, and we're off again.

 

[Nxkharra]

Luckily this compact spoke repair kit only weighs 0.6oz with the spare spoke nipple, spoke wrench, instructions, and a small plastic bag. Mine measures 0.75x2.5 inches in its plastic vial wrapped in the instructions all in the bag. Seems like worthwhile insurance against walking home.

Thanks again @Sierratim

 

[Nxkharra]

Yes. I always use Tri-flow on the derailleur pivot points and rollers. I use the drip bottle with the flexible clear dropper tube, not the aerosol. Keeps the lube contained on the spots I intend to lube, not everything surrounding it. Be sure to wipe off any excess to keep grit away. https://www.triflowlubricants.com/product/tri-flow-superior-lubricant-drip-bottle/

BTW - Speaking of weight, I carry a few single use packets of Tri-flow in my kit when we do multi-day trips. Handy for getting shifting back into spec after going through dirt, sand and rain. I'm not seeing these online now. Tri-flow does offer a 'pin point' lube in a 0.25oz tube. When I run out of packets, I'll switch to these.

@Sierratim i know you answered my question well. This is the oil I use for my chain per my LBS recommendation. Is this OK to use on derailleur or should I buy Tri-flow? Dumonde Tech Lite

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I only want to tell you I fought with the Electraks and lost the battle because I was unable to reinsert the bead of the tyre into the rim. My brother did that easily for me.
P.S. It turned out my brother bought a pair of Michelin Protek Max for his bike last Summer. The stores such as Decathlon were full of those inner tubes at that time. Today, I bought he last two tubes in Decathlon Okęcie in Warsaw... (They sell online and allow collect at one of three selected stores in Warsaw, with all covid security measures.

After my purchase, the product has become unavailable in that very store

 

[Nxkharra]

Yes. I always use Tri-flow on the derailleur pivot points and rollers. I use the drip bottle with the flexible clear dropper tube, not the aerosol. Keeps the lube contained on the spots I intend to lube, not everything surrounding it. Be sure to wipe off any excess to keep grit away. https://www.triflowlubricants.com/product/tri-flow-superior-lubricant-drip-bottle/

BTW - Speaking of weight, I carry a few single use packets of Tri-flow in my kit when we do multi-day trips. Handy for getting shifting back into spec after going through dirt, sand and rain. I'm not seeing these online now. Tri-flow does offer a 'pin point' lube in a 0.25oz tube. When I run out of packets, I'll switch to these.

You don’t have to answer to my previous question about the oil I use. I ordered Tri-flow that you recommended.
is it good for break and gear shifters also?
It says use Shimano mineral oil??

 

[Stefan Mikes]

It says use Shimano mineral oil??

Shimano mineral oil is used for hydraulic breaking. Don't even touch it -- it is like servicing brakes in a car! You don't lube the levers.

 

[Nxkharra]

Shimano mineral oil is used for hydraulic breaking. Don't even touch it -- it is like servicing brakes in a car! You don't lube the levers.

This is to what I was referring. I think then is for changing the break fluid. Correct?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

This is to what I was referring. I think then is for changing the break fluid. Correct?

Exactly. The oil is the brake fluid.

Today, I used the Finish Line "1-Step" for all lubing and I think it will be all right. I even remembered to oil the thru-axles. Oh, replacing the rear wheel was painful...

P.S. Gawd, the bike was dirty! Interestingly, the motor cover was almost completely clean. The fenders!

 

[Nxkharra]

Exactly. The oil is the brake fluid.

Today, I used the Finish Line "1-Step" for all lubing and I think it will be all right. I even remembered to oil the thru-axles. Oh, replacing the rear wheel was painful...

P.S. Gawd, the bike was dirty! Interestingly, the motor cover was almost completely clean. The fenders!

I don’t like taking the rear wheel off and put it back. It is always a challenge. On Vado it was more challenging.
I thought you have to use grease for axels as opposed to oil??

 

[Stefan Mikes]

It looked that the axles were originally oiled.

Hah, if you complain about the rear wheel in the Vado, try replacing the rear wheel in a hub-drive motor one. You need to disconnect the power cable, use the 18 mm wrench, then pull then reinsert the very heavy wheel (heavy because of the motor...) Any time I do this and re-connect the cable, the motor doesn't want to start...

 

[Sierratim]

I don’t like taking the rear wheel off and put it back. It is always a challenge. On Vado it was more challenging.
I thought you have to use grease for axels as opposed to oil??

Bike axels only need a light lube to prevent corrosion. This includes the Vado through axels. I use an anti-sieze compound on the threads with just a bit on the shaft; https://www.antiseize.com/moly-lit-moly-based-anti-seize-compound . I keep a 2oz brush top can of this in the shop. If the threads don't need blue locktite (brakes, rack, etc), I apply this. Makes for accurate torque settings and easy disassembly without aiding loosening by vibration like a grease.

The wheel bearings themselves require a good grease. The Vado uses sealed wheel hubs. The internal bearings are pre-greased and do not need servicing nor lubrication until the bearings start to fail at which time new sealed bearings are inserted.

 

[Nxkharra]

Bike axels only need a light lube to prevent corrosion. This includes the Vado through axels. I use an anti-sieze compound on the threads with just a bit on the shaft; https://www.antiseize.com/moly-lit-moly-based-anti-seize-compound . I keep a 2oz brush top can of this in the shop. If the threads don't need blue locktite (brakes, rack, etc), I apply this. Makes for accurate torque settings and easy disassembly without aiding loosening by vibration like a grease.

The wheel bearings themselves require a good grease. The Vado uses sealed wheel hubs. The internal bearings are pre-greased and do not need servicing nor lubrication until the bearings start to fail at which time new sealed bearings are inserted.

@Sierratim more stuff to buy? You are costing me...haha just kidding. Thanks for all the good suggestions.
my axels were fairly clean and looked well oiled for now. So I just put them back without applying anything.
this was the first time they were being unscrewed and it is only 7 months old.

 

[Sierratim]

@Sierratim more stuff to buy? You are costing me...haha just kidding. Thanks for all the good suggestions.
my axels were fairly clean and looked well oiled for now. So I just put them back without applying anything.
this was the first time they were being unscrewed and it is only 7 months old.

When you come from a family of engineers you get a bit anal about this stuff, but hey, it's only money, sometimes lots of it!

 

[Nxkharra]

@Sierratim could you provide the pivot pint and break lever reference document

 

[Sierratim]

@Sierratim could you provide the pivot pint and break lever reference document

I've circled the brake lever pivot point that I lube once or twice a year.

 

[Katysax]

My new Como 4.0 is at the bike shop ready for pickup when they open at noon. I am very excited. Since I got my Veego in July I have ridden 3300 miles on it. In many ways I love the bike. But. Where I ride the streets are full of glass, debris and nails. Fixing tires with the rear hub motor is difficult. I decided to get a bike with a motor that won’t be in the way. Also, I can do a lot of my own repairs, and I’ve done a pretty long list of them on the Veego. I hate waiting for parts to be mailed. Sometimes I need a bike shop. I wanted a bike that could be serviced by a local shop under warranty if needed.

I looked hard at the Tern bikes because as someone fairly short I love the small wheels. In the end I decided to go for the Specialized because that is what my local shop sells. I chose the Como because I broke my back in 1986 and find that I do better with a more upright position. Specialized is running a deal to help local shops through quarantine. Ive been riding a lot because it is a way to get out, get exercise, and avoid close contact. So I ordered the bike and I hope it stops raining before I pick it up.