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English esp the Americanized version is such an odd language. Even many of us that are 'native' to it don't do very well with it; to, too & two; sail & sale; there, their & they're; your & you're - get serious, how can anyone really understand this stuff! It's a wonder we can communicate at all.

Why would bikes have 'bosses' and how many are 'dropouts' of a bike?
 
I recently installed this rack on my Giant roam, and it has a ton of mounting options (see the second photo in the add). It's relatively light, really sturdy, and seems to have good reviews (YMMV). Just taking some quick measurements, it looks like it would fit on my wife's como.

 
I recently installed this rack on my Giant roam, and it has a ton of mounting options (see the second photo in the add). It's relatively light, really sturdy, and seems to have good reviews (YMMV). Just taking some quick measurements, it looks like it would fit on my wife's como.

And REI will take it back if it doen't fit. Gotta love that.
 
Even many of us that are 'native' to it don't do very well with it; to, too & two; sail & sale; there, their & they're; your & you're
"Pedal" and "peddle" makes me furious!

Why would bikes have 'bosses' and how many are 'dropouts' of a bike?
These are just technical terms. One needs to know them. For example a "washer". What does it wash? 🤔 (A joke!)
 
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"Pedal" and "peddle" makes me furious!


These are just technical terms. One needs to know them. For example a "washer". What does it wash? 🤔 (A joke!)
And then there is American vs British English. Boot/ trunk, bonnet/hood, lift/elevator, kerb/curb, although I have always spelled a financial instrument as cheque vs the American check!
 
I thought I'd add to positivity. Just received my Ortlieb Back - Roller City from Amazon. Huge amount of space. Ortlieb and Thule combined. The only con is the bags quick release prevents me from leaving on the bike out of sight. Thule bag too. $200 + for all 3. I guess we get what we pay for. Accessories are adding up for sure.
 

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I thought I'd add to positivity. Just received my Ortlieb Back - Roller City from Amazon. Huge amount of space. Ortlieb and Thule combined. The only con is the bags quick release prevents me from leaving on the bike out of sight. Thule bag too. $200 + for all 3. I guess we get what we pay for. Accessories are adding up for sure.
Looks great
 
And then there is American vs British English. Boot/ trunk, bonnet/hood, lift/elevator, kerb/curb, although I have always spelled a financial instrument as cheque vs the American check!
Fender/mudguard, kilometers/kilometres, realize/realise, tire/tyre, color/colour... Although I understand the American terms perfectly, I stick to British English on these Forums just for fun ;) I only make exceptions for the station-wagon (estate car), the big truck (lorry) and for the fender perhaps.

I thought I'd add to positivity. Just received my Ortlieb Back - Roller City from Amazon. Huge amount of space. Ortlieb and Thule combined. The only con is the bags quick release prevents me from leaving on the bike out of sight. Thule bag too. $200 + for all 3. I guess we get what we pay for. Accessories are adding up for sure.
Congratulations, Kam! The funny thing about the Ortlieb panniers is some of them sport a strap so you can carry the panniers on your shoulders while others don't. The only wrong thing about the Bike-Packer and the Back Roller City is the lack of the strap. Did you consider Ortlieb Commuter Inserts?
 
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Fender/mudguard, kilometers/kilometres, realize/realise, tire/tyre, color/colour... Although I understand the American terms perfectly, I stick to British English on these Forums just for fun ;) I only make exceptions for the station-wagon (estate car), the big truck (lorry) and for the fender perhaps.


Congratulations, Kam! The funny thing about the Ortlieb panniers is some of them sport a strap so you can carry the panniers on your shoulders while others don't. The only wrong thing about the Bike-Packer and the Back Roller City is the lack of the strap.
Nappies, diapers. We had an au-pair stay with us for over a year when our youngest were babies (twins, who knew!). Her very English terms were a delight. She never could accept our tea in bags. Hers was always fresh in a tea ball with boiling hot water. Delightful young person. Our four children still remember her fondly.
 
Pants/trousers! I'm confused with restroom and toilet (not being able to remember which of these words belongs to which language -- I say toilet). Then there are the South Africans ("robot" being the word for the junction signals) and the Australian (morno, arvo).

Do Americans say "bibs" to describe the chamois shorts?
 
Pants/trousers! I'm confused with restroom and toilet (not being able to remember which of these words belongs to which language -- I say toilet). Then there are the South Africans ("robot" being the word for the junction signals) and the Australian.

Do Americans say "bibs" to describe the chamois shorts?
It is all very confusing, though the preferred term here on the West coast of the US is restroom.

Bibs are chamois that include shoulder straps. Chamois is the generic.

Hadn't heard the South African use of 'robot'. Then there's those from 'downunder', gotta love 'em. It always amazes me that we can actually communicate, at least most of the time.
 
Bibs are chamois that include shoulder straps. Chamois is the generic.
Thank you! So I've got a pair of bibs. Quite confusing when you need to use the restroom... er... the toilet :D

Then there's those from 'downunder', gotta love 'em. It always amazes me that we can actually communicate, at least most of the time.
The British author Terry Pratchett wrote a novel "The Last Continent" in his Discworld series. The novel is written in the Australian English. I had a hard time to read it. Then I got the Polish edition. The Polish translator wrote a preface explaining many things about the Australian references in the book. So I found a Web site explaining the language of Ozzies. Repeated reading of "The Last Continent" became so easy!
 
Thank you! So I've got a pair of bibs. Quite confusing when you need to use the restroom... er... the toilet :D


The British author Terry Pratchett wrote a novel "The Last Continent" in his Discworld series. The novel is written in the Australian English. I had a hard time to read it. Then I got the Polish edition. The Polish translator wrote a preface explaining many things about the Australian references in the book. So I found a Web site explaining the language of Ozzies. Repeated reading of "The Last Continent" became so easy!
You sir, are well read.
 
Fender/mudguard, kilometers/kilometres, realize/realise, tire/tyre, color/colour... Although I understand the American terms perfectly, I stick to British English on these Forums just for fun ;) I only make exceptions for the station-wagon (estate car), the big truck (lorry) and for the fender perhaps.


Congratulations, Kam! The funny thing about the Ortlieb panniers is some of them sport a strap so you can carry the panniers on your shoulders while others don't. The only wrong thing about the Bike-Packer and the Back Roller City is the lack of the strap. Did you consider Ortlieb Commuter Inserts?
@Stefan Mikes. Thanks. No I'm not sure what those are. I'm going to order a couple of shoulder straps to carry the bags with me when I lock my bike up. I read something about cable locking them to frame. I'd rather carry them with me. I know cables can be cut through in seconds.
 
No I'm not sure what those are.


The best product from Ortlieb 😊

The "Inserts" is in fact a single two-chamber insert. It makes the bottom of Back Rollers/Bike-Packers/Velo-Shoppers strong and it turns "the sack" into fantastically well thought compartment.
 
Nappies, diapers. We had an au-pair stay with us for over a year when our youngest were babies (twins, who knew!). Her very English terms were a delight. She never could accept our tea in bags. Hers was always fresh in a tea ball with boiling hot water. Delightful young person. Our four children still remember her fondly.
Ah, yes, the tea infuser!
 
Ah, yes, the tea infuser!
OMG... My mom used that when I was a young kid.

I think the British have used teabags for a very very long time. My favourite is the PG Tips; I hope neither Brexit not covid would reduce the availability..
 

The best product from Ortlieb 😊

The "Inserts" is in fact a single two-chamber insert. It makes the bottom of Back Rollers/Bike-Packers/Velo-Shoppers strong and it turns "the sack" into fantastically well thought compartment.
I put my laptop 17.3" in my back pack along with a few items. I then put the back pack in one of the Ortlieb bags. It went in easily. I was also able to fold and clip without exposing the contents. The ride was smooth no movement at all on the rack. Very impressed.
 

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