I enjoy riding my Vado in the 10-12 Wh/mile range. I adjust the power for enjoyment of the extra speed whenever I feel like it. This gives my Vado 5 a 50 mile range. My ‘Saturday ride‘ is approx 25 miles. Can’t fault the flexibility and power. This is in the US where I have a 28 mph support limit.
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Nxkharra
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This is what I use:Shimano CN-HG601-11 or CN-HG701-11 do the job as well and cost less. Your choice.
Some more chain info here:
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Quick links aren't chain specific. I would choose a reusable one. Some need a special tool to remove.
Lots of shops in Germany stock the Shimano HG601, HG701 or E8000 chain with 138 links and could send to PL for 10€ immediately.
Why not have a chain in your "spare parts department" ready at hand, together with other spare parts. Order parts in bulk to save postage.
That's my policy. And I think it's wise because parts tend to be out of stock from time to time.
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Stefan Mikes
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Hmm. I cannot understand it. 126-link chain good for the 48T chainring Vado that you ride? How comes mine needs 132 links?
Nxkharra
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Sorry @Stefan Mikes my bad. This is the type of chain I got last. Not exact size.
not sure what size LBS used.
I was reading about the specs and this is what I saw.
Stefan Mikes
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Why shouldn't it?
Stefan Mikes
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I will tell you soon. I hope to get the chain today.
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Stealph
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Yes just wanted to share my local shop was recently able to order a 2nd battery (604) for my como and it arrived in about a week. I live in NC. I This has definitely cures my range anxiety
and am definitely enjoying the extended range. One small gotcha was it did not come with the battery cover which I am now waiting for. Really loving this bike and the community! First post
Stefan Mikes
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@Stealph, interestingly, I was informed about the necessity of ordering the battery cover by kind members of these Fora in advance
That's one of the gains of being here. I assure you you would feel no range anxiety since even the Turbo mode allows riding for 25 miles (on the flat), and lower support modes give far far greater range.I used to carry the spare battery in a prepared pannier (again, the outcome of the Forums talk), and I still carry the spare battery on trips exceeding 50 miles. With my growing body strength, I gradually reduce the assistance, especially as I've learnt to ride slower than before
A single 604 Wh battery is now good for most of my rides. I wouldn't take the risk with a smaller battery though.I'm glad we have got another Club member!
The Shimano E8000 chain works with a 2019 Vado 4.0, according to @bellandbottle reporting in this thread here:
Chain ring tooth selection
This is a chain "designed for the added torque of the Shimano STEPS drive unit For single ring chainset use 5.62 mm chain width, optimised for 11-speed Super Narrow HG-EV drivetrains " and I can't comment. I use a HG601 paying half the price. If you test this special chain we shall know if it...
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Stefan Mikes said:
The three Shimano chains HG601, HG701 and E8000 are directional and coded, the KMC E11 is bi-directional.
It's quite a common understanding of German users that the "special" Ebike chains aren't worth the extra money at all as they do not last that much longer - if even! According to some frustrated reports they didn't even last as long as the "normal chains". Anyone here who could report about his range experience? My HG601 is still way off from wear exchange after 1.500 miles presently; I don't think I'll exchange it before 2.000 miles. As the special ebike chains are about twice the price: anyone with more than 3.000 miles usage on them?
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Re chains
I would stay away from anything that touts rust proof or stainless. Stainless steel is a low carbon steel that is 'dry'. Without the higher carbon content of normal steels it will tend to gall if it contacts metal without any lubricant, more so than other steels. People think because stainless is hard to drill it is a hard steel, not so, it is because it is low carbon. Unless it is heat treated it is usually a soft steel.
I would investigate the type of steel used for chains. Which I have not seen advertised.
I would stay away from anything that touts rust proof or stainless. Stainless steel is a low carbon steel that is 'dry'. Without the higher carbon content of normal steels it will tend to gall if it contacts metal without any lubricant, more so than other steels. People think because stainless is hard to drill it is a hard steel, not so, it is because it is low carbon. Unless it is heat treated it is usually a soft steel.
I would investigate the type of steel used for chains. Which I have not seen advertised.
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BarryS
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50miles ?? I have a Vado 4 I've ridden 90 miles on a charge . Averaging probably 17 or more MPH. I rode yesterday 31.5 miles Using Turbo twice when I stopped to take a Phone call . Leaving me about a mile behind everyone else . I used it to catch them. Mostly riding in ECO . Yesterday was a Fast ride : We were averaging 22 mph : I have 5 bars of 10 left and 3 lights out of 5 on the battery still. So far I have left the Factory setting alone : I also used the Sport mode for 4 miles : Just to see how much more Juice I used : The 90 miles I mentioned still left me 2 bars of Power : I was going on another longer ride of 50 miles the next day so I charged it up. Had that not been the case I was going to ride around My Block which is 7.5 miles . Just to see if I could get to almost 100 miles with one charge : Granted my bike is just a week and 2 days old .
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BarryS
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Yes just wanted to share my local shop was recently able to order a 2nd battery (604) for my como and it arrived in about a week. I live in NC. I This has definitely cures my range anxiety
Really loving this bike and the community! First post
How much did it cost ? Are the covers additional?Yes just wanted to share my local shop was recently able to order a 2nd battery (604) for my como and it arrived in about a week. I live in NC. I This has definitely cures my range anxiety
Really loving this bike and the community! First post
Yes just wanted to share my local shop was recently able to order a 2nd battery (604) for my como and it arrived in about a week. I live in NC. I This has definitely cures my range anxiety
Really loving this bike and the community! First post
Why is a cover necessary? Wiill the battery still work without a cover? I planned to move my cover to the new battery and keep the old one as a backup without a cover.
Stefan Mikes
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We are not made equal, Barry Or equally healthy. Would you guess why I bought my e-bikes?
@Ebiker53:
Not sure if you could ride without the cover. Certainly it wouldn't look good. Besides, I am of the opinion batteries should be rotated as it gives both greater longevity.
Or equally healthy. Would you guess why I bought my e-bikes?Yes, it is an extra item for US$25.
@Ebiker53:
Not sure if you could ride without the cover. Certainly it wouldn't look good. Besides, I am of the opinion batteries should be rotated as it gives both greater longevity.
GuruUno
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Do you have an elevation reference? (like maybe Strava?)
Only because that seems like a lot of distance unless you are in Florida (where the land is about as flat as a piece of paper...except for the bridge : )
Went down to the LBS to adjust the Como wheel circumference. What I measured indicated 2103 so we put it in. On the measured mile I turned over 1 mile short of the distance, but closer than it ever has been, I did cross the marker at 1.1. It feels like the mph is more indicative of what I'm doing anyway. So the number would have to be less yet. I have to wonder how in this day and age they couldn't get something a little closer. Wonder if it effects the power, or maybe it's my big humongous legs.
Also checked for chains. They didn't have any in the 138 length and showed out of stock wherever they get their Shimano stuff which is what the guy recommended though I've got the KMC out there for other applications. I'm thinking of getting two shorter chains and a couple master links. Those long chains are expensive! Not that I need any at the moment but thought I'd beat the crush.
Also did almost 26 miles with only 4 watt hours avg. 13.5 mph. Hence the big humongous legs. Won't do it tomorrow though.....
. Also checked for chains. They didn't have any in the 138 length and showed out of stock wherever they get their Shimano stuff which is what the guy recommended though I've got the KMC out there for other applications. I'm thinking of getting two shorter chains and a couple master links. Those long chains are expensive! Not that I need any at the moment but thought I'd beat the crush.
Also did almost 26 miles with only 4 watt hours avg. 13.5 mph. Hence the big humongous legs
. Won't do it tomorrow though.....
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Would be handy for transporting the bike, to cover the battery cavity from dust and rain.
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