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Stefan Mikes said:
What a frustration! Find the right replacement chain for Vado 5.0... I counted the links in the existing chain and it turned out there were 132 links in total. A lot. It is the 11-speed cassette. Finally, I found the Shimano CN-E8000 11-sp with 138 links. Six links to be removed.

Next (@RandallS!), I needed a replacement chain for the Trance E+. 124 links needed for the 12-speed cassette. The only matching chain was Shimano CN-M8100 with 126 links. Two links to remove...

Tough luck to own an e-bike, eh?
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LBS just chopped out the stock chain on my 2020 Como 5.0 and guesstimated the replacement length. Later Specialized rider care told me my bike was stock with 126 links.
 
Billperry said:
LBS just chopped out the stock chain on my 2020 Como 5.0 and guesstimated the replacement length. Later Specialized rider care told me my bike was stock with 126 links.
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U.S. Como 5 is equipped with 11-42t cassette and uses 650b wheels. My Vado is on 700c wheels and has the 11-46t cassette. All these parameters affect the chain length.
 
GuruUno said:
Do you have an elevation reference? (like maybe Strava?)
Only because that seems like a lot of distance unless you are in Florida (where the land is about as flat as a piece of paper...except for the bridge : )
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No I'm not hooked up with Strava or anything like it yet : I am in Michigan Over by Lake Michigan : Definitely not flat : Most of the Trails are Combinations of flats hills and alot of stretches of 3 miles o more that are subtly uphill grades. Alot of rough paths, where the road grade in a gravel blacktop. Which on a Regular bike is easy to feel it's a harder ride then smooth city blacktop is. Just
GuruUno said:
Do you have an elevation reference? (like maybe Strava?)
Only because that seems like a lot of distance unless you are in Florida (where the land is about as flat as a piece of paper...except for the bridge : )
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Not sure : There's some flat areas But just as many hilly areas :Live along the Lakeshore of Lake Michigan > I can see that I should average at least 70 Miles a Charge : Maybe it's because it's New : My first ride Was headed North : Almost all uphill all 25 miles : A gradual incline so benefited on the way back : Road 53 Miles All in Eco Mode The very next day went West to east and back Round trip was 35 miles : All on the original Charge That night Gave it a Full Charge : Went 40 miles with some really steep hills : One area was a Good 1/2 mile of straight up climb : Steep as well : You barely make it on a Standard Non E bike : But you can It's just really hard. On the way back I had 2 occasions I had to stop and fix the Bag in the back which fell off : I used Turbo in both cases to catch up and used turbo 1 more time racing someone a Mile :

I have 5 Bars left : I am going on a 25 mile road today without Charging : SO I will see : I plan to test the Turbo and sport to see just how much battery I eat up

Living in Michigan The Longest I'll ride or be able to is 6 months : that's probably 60 full charges : I don't have time to ride more then 3 times a week : Even if I did I don't see riding more then 60 miles a Trip > Considering I have 300 charges or 2 years whichever comes first : I'll be happy if I average 60-70 miles per charge

I also realize the battery will lose power quicker as it ages :
 
The chains on my Vado (132 links, 11-speed, CN-E8000) and on my Trance E+ (122 links, 12-speed CN-M8000) have been successfully installed by my brother. Chainrings, derailleurs, cassettes were de-greased and cleaned prior to the replacement. We were baffled by the fact it would be the best to own the Shimano Quick-Link pliers but Jacek was capable to connect the chain without the tool. (After he assembled the Quick-Link with pliers, he pressed the rear brake lever and stomped very hard on the right pedal; the Quick Link snapped into place).
 
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Stefan Mikes said:
The chains on my Vado (132 links, 11-speed, CN-E8000) and on my Trance E+ (122 links, 12-speed CN-M8000) have been successfully installed by my brother. Chainrings, derailleurs, cassettes were de-greased and cleaned before the replacement. We were baffled by the fact it would be the best to own the Shimano Quick-Link tool but Jacek was capable to connect the chain without the tool. (After he assembled the Quick-Link with pliers, he pressed the rear brake lever and stomped very hard on the right pedal; the Quick Link snapped into place).
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I used the same technique to install a replacement chain on my Vado. I was surprised how much pressure it took on the pedals to get the master link to 'click' closed! For my 9-speed mech bike it's much easier...😎
 
Stefan Mikes said:
The chains on my Vado (132 links, 11-speed, CN-E8000) and on my Trance E+ (122 links, 12-speed CN-M8000) have been successfully installed by my brother. Chainrings, derailleurs, cassettes were de-greased and cleaned before the replacement. We were baffled by the fact it would be the best to own the Shimano Quick-Link tool but Jacek was capable to connect the chain without the tool. (After he assembled the Quick-Link with pliers, he pressed the rear brake lever and stomped very hard on the right pedal; the Quick Link snapped into place).
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How many miles were on the components prior to replacing them?
 
Sierratim said:
I used the same technique to install a replacement chain on my Vado. I was surprised how much pressure it took on the pedals to get the master link to 'click' closed! For my 9-speed mech bike it's much easier...😎
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For my 3x8-speed Lovelec I could close the link with my fingers...
Note: Jacek is a far-sighted person and I had to tell him what side of the chains the engravings were, what the direction of the arrow was, and whether he put the right link on the indicated chainring tooth :)
 
I have a VADO 5.0 just received last week, previously I was riding a VADO 1.0 which I purchase a second battery to use. I am doing chemotherapy all the time so I ride at the highest power level. I rode 28 miles and had 9% left on the battery, however I had also climbed about 4000ft so far. I carry a second battery which is the same (604 WH) on my trunk bag, so I just swapped out the battery. I finished doing 44.6 miles 4500ft climbing with about 50% left on second battery.
 
Stefan Mikes said:
Approximately 1200 miles on each chain. The chain gauge indicated 1.0 mark stretch on each of them.
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Oh boy, just hit 1200 miles today, guess I gotta check for stretch, etc. All seems perfect riding, etc. I cannot believe 1.0 stretch on a chain in 1200 miles.
So, reading all the various contributions here regarding which chain, tapered or not, directional, links, it's a tad overwhelming to actually know what chain(z) are preferred, available, and the reasonings as to how many links, etc.
I come away with an uncomfortable feeling of no 'standardization', and may require intervention by the local bike shop to validate certain items, like the cassette (teeth) as an example, so possibly somewhere here in these discussions we can either standardize the uniformity of expectations or make specific descriptive reference to all of the multitude of various that need to be taken into consideration prior to making a purchase.
I know if you read the manufacturers blurb on specifications, it usually states "we at any time can change stuff so you'll need to know what you have" type of disclaimer.
Just trying to make it easier, as I'd like to have spare parts to do my own maintenance, etc., but the very last thing I need to do is buy the wrong stuff, have shipping, return fees, restock fees, etc.
 
psimkins said:
I have a VADO 5.0 just received last week, previously I was riding a VADO 1.0 which I purchase a second battery to use. I am doing chemotherapy all the time so I ride at the highest power level. I rode 28 miles and had 9% left on the battery, however I had also climbed about 4000ft so far. I carry a second battery which is the same (604 WH) on my trunk bag, so I just swapped out the battery. I finished doing 44.6 miles 4500ft climbing with about 50% left on second battery.
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Body weight and tire pressure probably make some difference : Where I am Riding There are plenty of hills : I am curious now how far I could go on all turbo or all sport :
 
I was out tooling around on the Como and decided to check my odo calibration number again, under power and without assist to see if there was a difference.

At the odo indicated .5, it was short of the 1/2 mile mark which I expected, both under power and unassisted. At the mile mark, both under assist and unassisted, the odo indicated exactly 1 mile as I crossed the marker which surprised me as yesterday I thought it was still incorrect. It may have something to do with faster speeds and the computer not being able to keep up with the wheel magnet as yesterday I rode the distance faster.

So for the Como 5.0 drivers, if you set your wheel circumference to 2103, you will be pretty much exact on the odo and mph indications. If your Como uses different tires or equipment it may vary, but shouldn't be much.

If you are a Vado driver, I have an inkling your number is going to be 84" or something real close but I still have to verify that someday as I'm curious what this will rout out.
 
Marcela said:
I was out tooling around on the Como and decided to check my odo calibration number again, under power and without assist to see if there was a difference.

At the odo indicated .5, it was short of the 1/2 mile mark which I expected, both under power and unassisted. At the mile mark, both under assist and unassisted, the odo indicated exactly 1 mile as I crossed the marker which surprised me as yesterday I thought it was still incorrect. It may have something to do with faster speeds and the computer not being able to keep up with the wheel magnet as yesterday I rode the distance faster.

So for the Como 5.0 drivers, if you set your wheel circumference to 2103, you will be pretty much exact on the odo and mph indications. If your Como uses different tires or equipment it may vary, but shouldn't be much.

If you are a Vado driver, I have an inkling your number is going to be 84" or something real close but I still have to verify that someday as I'm curious what this will rout out.
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I've personally found trail markers to be approximations. There's a section on the American River trail where painted trail mileage markers have been painted over and moved by dozens of yards several times! YRMV.
 
Sierratim said:
I've personally found trail markers to be approximations. There's a section on the American River trail where painted trail mileage markers have been painted over and moved by dozens of yards several times! YRMV.
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Why I don’t use trail markers.
 
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