Specialized Turbo Vado/Como/Tero/Tero X User Club

[RandallS]

I am extremely pleased that we can all discuss beer whilst having parallel conversations about e-bikes and other cycling gear. What a great forum! I came so close to buying a Specialized Vado just to be a bona fide member of this particular discussion group. Alas, I ride a Giant, but I will still try to hang out with you Specialized folks!

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Don't worry Randall, I own a Giant, too Interestingly, there are not too many Levo/Kenevo owners participating in EBR Forums (with some notable exceptions). Perhaps it is because these "sit" in e-MTB fora.

Specialized seem to have addressed a very important market segment, which is a general e-bike with their Vado and Como. Most of people need just a multi-purpose e-bike, and the Spesh e-bikes fit the bill. See your own choice, Randy. You love trail riding yet you chose the Fathom that is a hard-tail and has no dropper post. That makes it easier to ride your e-bike on-road, do grocery shopping with easily mountable rack, you can add removable lights, and even MTB fenders are available in case of raining. Your e-bike is for trail but it is also ready to become a general e-bike.

 

[Art Deco]

I am extremely pleased that we can all discuss beer whilst having parallel conversations about e-bikes and other cycling gear. What a great forum! I came so close to buying a Specialized Vado just to be a bona fide member of this particular discussion group. Alas, I ride a Giant, but I will still try to hang out with you Specialized folks!

Giant was my second choice ... Great bike, great dealer, didn't want the IGH and wanted all the lights, racks, fenders, and display that were all extras on the Giant.

 

[Art Deco]

Sex in a canoe beer. On the rare times I drink a beer it is an English Porter.

Actually I drink a lot of lager outside in the summer. But porter is a favorite evening drink 50% porter mixed with pale ale ... Called a "Black and Tan" it's my goto beer snob party drink because the porter floats on the ale. I buy it premixed so not so pretty but good. Malty.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Giant was my second choice ... Great bike, great dealer, didn't want the IGH and wanted all the lights, racks, fenders, and display that were all extras on the Giant.

That certainly depends on the Giant model. I just regret I couldn't buy the 625 Wh version of the Trance E+ Pro but at least mine is in the best colour

Actually I drink a lot of lager outside in the summer. But porter is a favorite evening drink 50% porter mixed with pale ale ... Called a "Black and Tan" it's my goto beer snob party drink because the porter floats on the ale. I buy it premixed so not so pretty but good. Malty.

I cannot drink so much ale nowadays, not with the diabetes and not with my hard work to reduce the body mass. Yet, my favourite beer styles include: Double/Imperial IPA, Black IPA (Cascadian Dark Ale), Imperial Stout, and Barley Wine. Generally, styles of > 7% abv. I need hoppy, bitter beer. And I mean bitter. Well, there is one beer style of which Poland is proud of, and it is the (Imperial) Baltic Porter (typically 9.5% abv). For some reason, Baltic Porters, even from large breweries are very good. Not for me, though. The BP is malty but not hoppy. That's why I prefer the (Russian) Imperial Stout.

@Art Deco: Have you had a chance to try the "řezané pivo" in the Czech Republic? It's their version of "Black & Tan".

 

[Art Deco]

That certainly depends on the Giant model. I just regret I couldn't buy the 625 Wh version of the Trance E+ Pro but at least mine is in the best colour

I of course was buying a much cheaper Giant or Specialized than Stephan, but the quotes were close enough to be maybe $50 or $100 US differance on 2 bikes . The hydraulic brakes and derailleur on the Specialized were the issues for me.These companies make some fine bikes. As well they should for the price they charge.

 

[rochrunner]

Here's my Vado 4.0 with its new Thudbuster ST (Gen 4) seatpost. I'm at the low end of the recommended weight range for the default insert and found it too stiff, so changed to the #3 insert that was included with the post. So far I'm happy with it. This replaces the PNW Coast Suspension Dropper that was just not working out for me. It's too late to return it so I guess I'll go the eBay route to dispose of it.

 

[Art Deco]

Try listing it on the forum. A much more targeted group than fleabay.

 

[GuruUno]

The obvious solution

 

[Marci jo]

Here's my Vado 4.0 with its new Thudbuster ST (Gen 4) seatpost. I'm at the low end of the recommended weight range for the default insert and found it too stiff, so changed to the #3 insert that was included with the post. So far I'm happy with it. This replaces the PNW Coast Suspension Dropper that was just not working out for me. It's too late to return it so I guess I'll go the eBay route to dispose of it.

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Rochrunner,
What didn't you like with the PNW post? I was thinking of getting a dropper post but also wanted the suspension. Granted, it would not be as nice as my current Kindect.
Thanks.

 

[Marci jo]

Here's today's route. Rode across the bay through the bridge loops, both ways!
Love my Vado. ❤
It's me, only faster!!

big LOL

 

[rochrunner]

The obvious solutionView attachment 61536

A bit much setback.

 

[rochrunner]

Rochrunner,
What didn't you like with the PNW post? I was thinking of getting a dropper post but also wanted the suspension. Granted, it would not be as nice as my current Kindect.
Thanks.

It didn't seem like the suspension was doing anything. I think that I just don't hit the size bumps that it's designed for, even with the pressure set rather low.

 

[rochrunner]

Try listing it on the forum. A much more targeted group than fleabay.

Thanks for the tip. I'll try that.

 

[Art Deco]

Thanks for the tip. I'll try that.

Also people on here will understand you selling something that "just doesn't work for you" better than at an auction of bargan hunters. Hope the new one works out for you.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

It didn't seem like the suspension was doing anything. I think that I just don't hit the size bumps that it's designed for, even with the pressure set rather low.

Same here.
Marci Jo, don't replace the Kinect! You better buy yourself a Full Suspension e-MTB instead Ah, I found replacement springs for the KInekt in the original box. Since my weight went down, I could replace the orange springs with the black ones soon!

 

[PaD]

My opinion about firmware 7.1.1 is stiil the same. It has taken away the natural feel from the motor support at lower support settings (usually used in Eco mode).
Especially at lower speeds. The bike now sometimes surges forward surprisingly long from a standstill. Seems to be a result of that power support ”lasts longer” after a pedal strike.
Specialized Rider Care US has not responded to my mail where I asked for explanations. Nordic Rider Care answered within a day but their description of 7.1.1 was that it e.g. was supposed to be less sensitve. That is definitely not my experience.
Add to that higher power consumption.
The bike bike still handles great ( Specialized know about frame geometry) The Mission Control app is a very nice festure but app response is a lttle erratic since firmware update ( yes I have updated the app. Deleted and reinstalled too.)
It’s not the bike I bought.

 

[Marci jo]

Same here.
Marci Jo, don't replace the Kinect! You better buy yourself a Full Suspension e-MTB instead Ah, I found replacement springs for the KInekt in the original box. Since my weight went down, I could replace the orange springs with the black ones soon!

Agreed!
And thanks to all for the feedback on the PNW. Gonna keep the Kinect. I too replaced just one spring with the next higher weight bracket. (No weight change for me, just at the upper end of the weight bracket)

It’s perfect! Between the 2.25” (5.71 cm) Schwalbe tires and the seat post the ride is exceptionally smooth. The only bumps I feel are the sneaky pot holes that I’m unable to avoid, but that’s a rare occasion.

Full Suspension emtb.....hmmm. Tempting. I’m concerned it would not have high enough gears for road rides. But I haven’t actually tested one yet. Too bad I can’t rent one for a week or so and really test it.

 

[45srbest]

Any idea when the 2021 Vado is coming out? When the new bikes come out does Specialized generally discount the leftovers?

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Full Suspension emtb.....hmmm. Tempting. I’m concerned it would not have high enough gears for road rides. But I haven’t actually tested one yet. Too bad I can’t rent one for a week or so and really test it.

A friend of mine did 31.8 mph on my derestricted Trance on the flat. I can do
25 mph on it. The matter of cadence only!
Bulls E-Stream Evo 45 AM is a Class 3 FS MTB!