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Hi, I have an odd behaviour on my Como (4.0 IGH 2022/2023) that I did not find in the manual.
I often carry bikes on the roof of my car. With my Como, I remove the battery and carry it in the Frunk to lower the bike weight on its roof-rack.
Issue is, at the end of the travel, I get the bike down, check plugs are clean, check the battery level (little button near the led indicators on the battery itself), reinstall the battery => I can't startup the bike as usual with the mastermind button (even with a longer press). The only way it will start-up again is if I plug the charger (plugged also to a wall outlet) to the bike/installed battery, after that, it works OK as usual (can turn off / on again the bike with the mastermind). It may be some kind of security feature, but I can find no other mean to start it again after a journey by car other than plug the charger. It already happened twice, it was OK cause I could plug the charger to a wall outlet, but What if I'm in the middle of nowhere with no power outlet to turn on the charger ? Any idea ?
 
no one ever encountered this ? I don't have this behaviour when dismounting the battery to charge it upstairs and putting it back in the bike after. only after transporting bike and battery apart from each other.
next time i will try plugging it once after removal and before the journey to see if it changes something.
 
I have not had this issue @Fender, but experience something similar with my Vado not wanting to turn on. Mine is when I ride for a bit and take a long break. After 15 minutes or so of no use, the bike will turn itself off. The issue I have is it doesn't always want to turn back on immediately on the button press. I can see the backlight on the display turn on, but the specialized logo never appears. The screen remains blank with the backlight on......but simply turning the bike off and back on always worked for me.

Sorry I can't be of much help. Best of luck getting it resolved!
 
Hi guys. I found a problem similar to my Como 4.0 igh. is the second time that I use it already no longer turns on. I uploaded the battery into the home and after i installed to the bike, this is not turns on from the mastermind. zero all dead. And yes, I transported the bike on my car saturday. If anyone can help me please. Thanks and sorry for my poor English.
 
I tried ! The battery is full. Nothing! This is the result:
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Well, got to experience a blackout on the Como 5 a couple times. About a week ago the power cut out although the display was still operable. Today, another power outage, the display was normal except the percentage of the battery was blank and the blocks on the right side to indicate level 1,2, or 3 was blank, though it was on either level 1 or 2 when the outage occurred. I looked down at the display on the battery and it was blank though there was approx 59% charge when the blackout occured.

The battery is hardly ever removed and the bike has not really been subjected to water as in washing or rain shower. Coming up on 2k miles. Hope this is not going to be the norm, electrical issues are such a pita. I will take the battery out and look at the contacts for oxidation or arcing and maybe put some dielectric grease on the contacts, but probably should not as it may just complicate diagnosing things, at least for a while.

Any body else get to experience these symptoms? Otherwise the bike and all the pieces have been flawless.
 
Marcela said:
Well, got to experience a blackout on the Como 5 a couple times. About a week ago the power cut out although the display was still operable. Today, another power outage, the display was normal except the percentage of the battery was blank and the blocks on the right side to indicate level 1,2, or 3 was blank, though it was on either level 1 or 2 when the outage occurred. I looked down at the display on the battery and it was blank though there was approx 59% charge when the blackout occured.

The battery is hardly ever removed and the bike has not really been subjected to water as in washing or rain shower. Coming up on 2k miles. Hope this is not going to be the norm, electrical issues are such a pita. I will take the battery out and look at the contacts for oxidation or arcing and maybe put some dielectric grease on the contacts, but probably should not as it may just complicate diagnosing things, at least for a while.

Any body else get to experience these symptoms? Otherwise the bike and all the pieces have been flawless.
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I opened the battery up to take a look. Inside was clean and dry. Nothing out of the ordinary. Whoever takes on the job of fixing ebike batteries could probably write their own ticket. The only thing I could see was the contacts, the female portion might have relaxed so I attempted to move them back together with a small screwdriver. The male contacts showed some discoloration where they made contact and possible movement involved. So I cleaned everything up and maybe put a dab of dielectric grease on them but then there is the possibility of dirt getting involved though it should be sealed off from outside elements with the rubber gasket on the bike that mats up to the battery.

Who knows.
 
Just curious here, I am a longtime fan of IGH bikes. I have 2 lovely steel frames, one has a Rolhoff, the other an Alfine 8 And both have provided me much pleasure and enjoyment.
Has anyone retrofit a turbo Vado or Turbo Vado SL with an internal hub?
 
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Re my above posts about the battery, I have not had any problems after I looked at it. I believe expanding the female contacts in the battery that contact the male on the bike have resolved the blackout issue.

I did replace the kickstands on the Vado and Como 5. One had the plastic portion of the leg break. Replaced them both with a PDW power stance kickstand, part #545. Whatever you get you want the 40mm spacing on the fasteners. This kit provides the fasteners, though I don't know if they are soft or graded. I used cap head screws because I wanted something hard. I am not sure the ones I took off were the originals, but they were soft and the head and threads were no longer perpendicular because they kept coming loose. On the front fastener, M6 btw, you can go longer and put a lock nut on it, which I did. The rear fastener is very tight with the brake disc so it cannot extend too far past the threads in the kickstand.
 
Stefan Mikes said:
@Eheller, don't hesitate! Giant FastRoad certainly is an excellent bike, yet it has even smaller battery than Vado 3.0 (375 vs 460 Wh). The torque perception could have been subjective as the Yamaha SyncDrive Pro sports the torque of 80 Nm and the Specialized Brose offers 90 Nm.

Regarding the battery it is good if you ask the dealer if the 460 and 604 Wh batteries are interchangeable (I can bet they are). All in all, you might need a spare (and a bigger) battery in the future, when your next budget allows it.

Note: The temperature in your area is now in some 40's. Bear in mind to charge the battery at the room temperature and expect far lower battery range than you will be able to get when temperature becomes higher than 55 F.

There was a point I forgot to discuss before: The motor. It is completely silent in Turbo Vado. I haven't ridden e-bikes with different make of the mid motor but I was watching YT videos and it is clear to me other brand motors are audible: they seem to whine. I will have to hear the Specialized Brose motor yet 🤣

You compared the riding positions Vado vs Como. Of course, the forward riding position helps faster riding. However, my tummy is rather large and I initially felt discomfort while riding my Vado. I got the steering tube extended by some 3" riser and spacers. Now, I ride more upright and more comfortable.

Waiting for your experiences, hopefully soon!
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I have the Brose 90 NM motor in may Ride1Up and it too is completely silent. I appreciate that and the smooth power delivery more can I can explain, especially after having two bikes with whinie motors and bad power delivery.
 
Marcela said:
Re my above posts about the battery, I have not had any problems after I looked at it. I believe expanding the female contacts in the battery that contact the male on the bike have resolved the blackout issue.

I did replace the kickstands on the Vado and Como 5. One had the plastic portion of the leg break. Replaced them both with a PDW power stance kickstand, part #545. Whatever you get you want the 40mm spacing on the fasteners. This kit provides the fasteners, though I don't know if they are soft or graded. I used cap head screws because I wanted something hard. I am not sure the ones I took off were the originals, but they were soft and the head and threads were no longer perpendicular because they kept coming loose. On the front fastener, M6 btw, you can go longer and put a lock nut on it, which I did. The rear fastener is very tight with the brake disc so it cannot extend too far past the threads in the kickstand.
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Really liking this kickstand. Well worth the $24 usd.
 
A morning of frustration.

The rear wheel on my Vado 6.0 got a flat with no apparent reason (the e-bike not ridden when that happened). I spent almost two hours to replace the inner tube and the tyre! Cannot comprehend how come it has been 139 years since inventing the bicycle and yet no-one invented a simple way and appropriate tools to remove the tyre from the rim and then pulling the bead back onto the rim!

Good inner tubes have a removable valve core. When my wheel was ready, I removed the valve core and poured a good amount of sealant into the inner tube. Let us see how it works!
 
Stefan Mikes said:
A morning of frustration.

The rear wheel on my Vado 6.0 got a flat with no apparent reason (the e-bike not ridden when that happened). I spent almost two hours to replace the inner tube and the tyre! Cannot comprehend how come it has been 139 years since inventing the bicycle and yet no-one invented a simple way and appropriate tools to remove the tyre from the rim and then pulling the bead back onto the rim!

Good inner tubes have a removable valve core. When my wheel was ready, I removed the valve core and poured a good amount of sealant into the inner tube. Let us see how it works!
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Stefan Mikes said:
A morning of frustration.

The rear wheel on my Vado 6.0 got a flat with no apparent reason (the e-bike not ridden when that happened). I spent almost two hours to replace the inner tube and the tyre! Cannot comprehend how come it has been 139 years since inventing the bicycle and yet no-one invented a simple way and appropriate tools to remove the tyre from the rim and then pulling the bead back onto the rim!

Good inner tubes have a removable valve core. When my wheel was ready, I removed the valve core and poured a good amount of sealant into the inner tube. Let us see how it works!
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This makes installation a lot easier! On my last install I did have to pinch the tire with a small C clamp ahead of the tire jack to keep it from coming out of the channel.
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